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Uranus square Venus how does affect u?

Firstly i apologise if i am repetitive about this aspect

The thing about aspects always makes me sad cause everyone relates them with real facts and few gives a fearther explanation concerning esotric astrology. I am one from those who claim that human is the ruler of his stars.

Most astrologers assume that this kind of uranus aspects makes someone unreliable and unable to settle down to a relationship.

Having this aspect in my natal chart i admit that causes me a lot of truble as i always have that strong need to run away and release my self from bounds. However, my datication to those i love is indisputable.

how this aspect affect u?
What else can this aspect indicate? Which is its spiritual meaning?

Why should aspects show always things we can or cannot do and don't show just what we need to do in order to go on step forward?

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Firstly i apologise if i am repetitive about this aspect

The thing about aspects always makes me sad cause everyone relates them with real facts and few gives a fearther explanation concerning esotric astrology. I am one from those who claim that human is the ruler of his stars.

Most astrologers assume that this kind of uranus aspects makes someone unreliable and unable to settle down to a relationship.

Having this aspect in my natal chart i admit that causes me a lot of truble as i always have that strong need to run away and release my self from bounds. However, my datication to those i love is indisputable.

how this aspect affect u?
What else can this aspect indicate? Which is its spiritual meaning?

Why should aspects show always things we can or cannot do and don't show just what we need to do in order to go on step forward?
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Re: Uranus square Venus how does affect u?

Nobody is condemned by their planets to be a certain way. Squares such as this you can see as challenges for you to overcome or as easy explanations for a pattern of behaviour you can't be bothered to work with. You are in charge of your aspects, not the other way round!
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Re: Uranus square Venus how does affect u?

It's also worth connecting the dots and seeing which houses venus and uranus rule ie: Aquarius and taurus/libra

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

and THEN look at the other aspects venus has in the natal and yours are:-
venus square mars
venus trine neptune
venus sextile pluto
venus square MC

NEXT we look at houes placements and yours in in 12th - not great, it's a cadent house and house of self undoing, subconscious mind. Quite capable of having secret liaisons/affairs....

your venus is also involved in a minor grand trine or talant triangle with Pluto as apex planet.
http://joycehopewell.blogspot.com/2006/07/belle-filles-recorder.html
http://www.michaelconneely.com/tantric2.html

Firstly, for a proper evaluation you need to post your chart, pref with progressions and transits on same wheel found in extended chart selection. Reduce the ratio of orbs to 80%, select smallest image size 63% on picture, choose Equal house system, right mouse click and select 'save target pic as' and save to hard drive then upload here

Natal chart aspects
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects

planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
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Re: Uranus square Venus how does affect u?

Oh i see... i had never worked on progressions before...
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Re: Uranus square Venus how does affect u?

progressed charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life”

http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm

The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..We also have a search feature bit like google, using keywords --

Notice your prog venus has just changed signs in to Libra approx 1year ago. Have you noticed or felt more inclined or wanting a relationships??

Your Prog sun is now conj natal mercury--
"Progressed Sun conjunct Mercury If it seems like a brainstorm, it probably is -- you've arrived at a moment when you have a suddenly increased understanding of where you heart and intentions in life lie. The ability to express and explain where you're at is blossoming, and what might have only been thought or hinted at gets put down on paper and fuels conversation."
http://cafeastrology.com/progressedplanetsaspects.html

to read the full article, click on link
Your prog mercury has turned retrograde ie: going backwards, which suggests you have become far more analytical and thoughtful

There is a current thread on here about Eating disorders in Medical forum. There seems to varied opinions one of which is harsh moon neptune aspects and chiron and even ceres (which isn't on your chart) but you can select it on astro in Extended chart selection bottom left is a list of extra's like POF, vertex, juno etc.


Uranus in Square to Ascendant You're anything but a stick-in-the-mud. You march to the beat of a different drummer and you're something of a rebel. You crave excitement and when life gets too predictable (i.e., boring) you know how to stir things up again. You'll often speak your mind regardless of the effect pro or con, that it has on other people. As a result, you attract other strong personalities who can handle your sometimes volatile personality and not be offended.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsuranus.htm

I have uranus opp Asc - so similar feel

4th House – Angular house
· They could have experienced an unusual home life or upbringing, or live in an unusual house.
· Close friends may be accepted as part of the family.
· Sudden changes of residence and many changes in family life.
· Your parents will not have a binding effect.
· Not a domestic type and may not want a fixed and settled home life unless Uranus in a fixed sign.
· Unsettled conditions around mother may effect this individual emotionally. Restlessness in the roots of being can cause unstable conditions in life.
· Could collect unusual things, like porcelain pigs
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Re: Uranus square Venus how does affect u?

Yes i see all these changes... during the last 3 years i've been through extreme changes. I left my family home, i got in a long term relationship, i got rid of superficial social afairs, i focused on my very personal needs, i came closer to my beloved people.

That uranus... that's why i feel like an aquarious although i don't have any planet placed there... I can't help with my boredom.. i can work hard for exable to redecorate the house and within few days to lose my interest..

For once more i have to thank you... Until now the greek forums didn't help me to a such degree. Most of them are wasted on superficial matters. My personal research although it has been extended, didn't bear much fruit cause i couldn't interpreted as a whole . Your guidance came at the right time...
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Re: Uranus square Venus how does affect u?

HI Asteroid,

I have Venus square Uranus.

It's ok to be repetitive as the way this forum appears to work is we are not so concerned with things becoming overloaded or overwhelmed. Besides, what's more important is that YOU got to ask this question and get your answers, through making your own thread. So more power to you.

Venus is Virgo (desiring simple domestic things) and Uranus is in Sagittarius (erratic qualities imparted upon my quest for philosophical truth and the science of philosophy) so I am often all over the place in my relationships.

Uranus is in the 12th moreover, so all of the things I "get" from Uranus in Sagittarius impacting my Venus in the 8th are all sorts of mayhem and noises from all things which are not me and what I truly desire in my relationships. Maybe spiritual guidance through relationships? Genius qualities? How does one relate to GENIUS? Instead I'm just forced to constantly show and expose all of my 8th house. I can't have any privacy because then I just go insane from all of the pressure and the "infidelity" from truth which should be self-evident and therefore crystal clear, so it's like I have to objectify myself to relate to how I relate others. Venus in the 8th is like the great undertaker in this respect, having faced squares not only from Uranus, but Saturn, and Chiron, and an opposition from Jupiter if we use whole houses. Venus is also trining Neptune, my ASC and Mars, and Moon energetically, as well as sextile my MC and Pluto. So there is a lot of PRESSURE on my Venus to perform.

Venus is interested in simple tasks and filing things, compilations, organizations, small routines and minor adjustments, so I am constantly having to whittle all of these influences into a nice little package for people to deal with that I choose to relate to.

It's not easy and horribly frustrating and I wish it would stop, or better yet, that I could harness it or direct it. Not to mention that out of all of my planets, Venus is the only one NOT in retrograde so it's sort of leading everything else in my chart, or it is sort of "innocent" to the patterns of all of the other planets, just trying to figure them all out.

Plus I drive people bonkers because they can never "figure me out" or try to pigeon-hole me which would make things so much easier except Uranus and Sagittarius both despise this.

Inconjunct you mention that we are in control of our aspects. I think we are in control of how we relate to our aspects and planetary placements.

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Re: Uranus square Venus how does affect u?

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Why should aspects show always things we can or cannot do and don't show just what we need to do in order to go on step forward?
They don't, squares show 'internal' tension because it's hard to balance the planetary energies. The DO show how to go forward --this is your challenge, test or exam in this incarmation. They do not deny anything

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I think, you are experiencing Venus getting afflicted (squared) by Chiron. Subsequent description are indicators to Chiron affliction and not Uranus affliction.
rather than suggesting what affliction chiron may cause, I prefer to lay a trail of breadcrumbs that will lead to 'self enlightenment' and 'learning'

so in the light here are some chiron links for you to explore --in essence chiron conj MC suggests a 'wound' by one parent and how they expressed affection (venus) or withheld afffection due to your venus in 12th house -- perhaps that should be your next research, to see how venus in 12th functions--

Chiron thread
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9786
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11976

Further discussions on AW and links from this thread….
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165
http://www.moonsweb.com/ast/chiron.shtml
http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html

http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm
http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm


http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&l r=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as _maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO#v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=fals e
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Firstly i apologise if i am repetitive about this aspect

The thing about aspects always makes me sad cause everyone relates them with real facts and few gives a fearther explanation concerning esotric astrology. I am one from those who claim that human is the ruler of his stars.

Most astrologers assume that this kind of uranus aspects makes someone unreliable and unable to settle down to a relationship.

Having this aspect in my natal chart i admit that causes me a lot of truble as i always have that strong need to run away and release my self from bounds. However, my datication to those i love is indisputable.

how this aspect affect u?
What else can this aspect indicate? Which is its spiritual meaning?

Why should aspects show always things we can or cannot do and don't show just what we need to do in order to go on step forward?
It's a been a very difficult aspect for me to work with. Venus rules my 7th house and is placed in the 8th house in Sagitarious and square my Uranus in Virgo in the 6th. I have had relationships/affairs with coworkers. My relationships seem to end suddenly for no reason. I also seem to attract partners who are unavailable to me in some way. It's been very difficult because I want nothing more than to have a long-term committed relaitonship with someone. It's obviously one of my lessons in this life so it's something I am working on.
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HI Asteroid,

I have Venus square Uranus.

It's ok to be repetitive as the way this forum appears to work is we are not so concerned with things becoming overloaded or overwhelmed. Besides, what's more important is that YOU got to ask this question and get your answers, through making your own thread. So more power to you.

Venus is Virgo (desiring simple domestic things) and Uranus is in Sagittarius (erratic qualities imparted upon my quest for philosophical truth and the science of philosophy) so I am often all over the place in my relationships.

Uranus is in the 12th moreover, so all of the things I "get" from Uranus in Sagittarius impacting my Venus in the 8th are all sorts of mayhem and noises from all things which are not me and what I truly desire in my relationships. Maybe spiritual guidance through relationships? Genius qualities? How does one relate to GENIUS? Instead I'm just forced to constantly show and expose all of my 8th house. I can't have any privacy because then I just go insane from all of the pressure and the "infidelity" from truth which should be self-evident and therefore crystal clear, so it's like I have to objectify myself to relate to how I relate others. Venus in the 8th is like the great undertaker in this respect, having faced squares not only from Uranus, but Saturn, and Chiron, and an opposition from Jupiter if we use whole houses. Venus is also trining Neptune, my ASC and Mars, and Moon energetically, as well as sextile my MC and Pluto. So there is a lot of PRESSURE on my Venus to perform.

Venus is interested in simple tasks and filing things, compilations, organizations, small routines and minor adjustments, so I am constantly having to whittle all of these influences into a nice little package for people to deal with that I choose to relate to.

It's not easy and horribly frustrating and I wish it would stop, or better yet, that I could harness it or direct it. Not to mention that out of all of my planets, Venus is the only one NOT in retrograde so it's sort of leading everything else in my chart, or it is sort of "innocent" to the patterns of all of the other planets, just trying to figure them all out.

Plus I drive people bonkers because they can never "figure me out" or try to pigeon-hole me which would make things so much easier except Uranus and Sagittarius both despise this.

Inconjunct you mention that we are in control of our aspects. I think we are in control of how we relate to our aspects and planetary placements.
As you have you are more reserved and fragile and i see how this aspect torture your feelings. in your 12th brings on new queries about your position in univerce in sociaty etc. I see it's much harder than mine.

I have a close friend whose uranus is in 12th conjucting her rising . She deals with supernatural religious and sociaty matters but she has no answers and that drives her crazy and makes her to resort to bad habbits...

Thank u for your response
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It's a been a very difficult aspect for me to work with. Venus rules my 7th house and is placed in the 8th house in Sagitarious and square my Uranus in Virgo in the 6th. I have had relationships/affairs with coworkers. My relationships seem to end suddenly for no reason. I also seem to attract partners who are unavailable to me in some way. It's been very difficult because I want nothing more than to have a long-term committed relaitonship with someone. It's obviously one of my lessons in this life so it's something I am working on.
I 've been through the same situation like u in the past. I used to meet partners who had no plan to live by my side BUT after some kind of self-examination found out that it was me who fired that people cause i didn't have enough self-esteem. i thought that i wasn't good enough to have someone by my side ( and that had a great explanation as my father had been always away from me after my parents divorce and i felt some kind of rejection) But from the moment i focused on myself and fall in love with myself i found what i needed but still my missing father makes me unfullfild...

By the way .. why you always have to see coworkers?? I know Virgo in 6th shows the place to meet them but 6th is not just work it's more things like health, physical exercise, everyday life.. go to a gum, go to a spa center, go to a doctor
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