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Jupiter-Time, 400 day calendar, approaching the Scorpioyear!

We've been living in the year where Jupiter ives in Libra. Trump has Jupiter in Libra. It is his Jupiter year. He also has Neptune there, if I am not mistaken.

The next exact Sun-Jupiter conjunction is at the time below. It happens on 03'31 degrees Scorpio.

Thursday, October 26 2017, 01:58:41 PM
New York (New York), New York
74.00W ; 40.42N / 4W00, 05:58 PM UT


There is this method where you measure periods of development in the stretches between two Jupiter-Sun conjunction, roughly, but really quite exactly actually, 13 months of a solar year. So thats nice, you get a progression of one sign each "year".

Ive tis thing n my signature but whatever - I wish to recommend y'all participate in this, its pretty powerful. And you know how Jupiter rattles the bones of Saturn, Its exciting. (Uranus is happy to see change in orders - Saturns own existential order no less - time, Kronos, itself.)

So yes, I am Aquarius, I invent things. Jupiter is my friend, he's in my first house, with Lilith and Chiron. I feel great gratitude to be able to honour Jupiter with a new invention of time-mapping.

- I started living by it in 2015, at the Virgo conjunction. It was a true autumn spring.

The next exact conjunction:

Thursday, October 26 2017, 01:58:41 PM
New York (New York), New York
74.00W ; 40.42N / 4W00, 05:58 PM UT

Just formulate your goals in that moment, and thank Jupiter for listening.
If you can say it directly to him/her (Jupiter has a feminine aspect, its well hidden, I believe it relates to Vesta)

I am very sure he will listen.
Jupiter is the boss of all the gods always.
His calendar must have been known to the Assyrians. All this is is the unearthing of an available resource of value-bestowing.

It is your thirst to become sacrifices and gifts yourselves: and therefore have ye the thirst to accumulate all riches in your soul.

Insatiably striveth your soul for treasures and jewels, because your virtue is insatiable in desiring to bestow.
Ye constrain all things to flow towards you and into you, so that they shall flow back again out of your fountain as the gifts of your love.
- Friedrich Nietzsche, thus spoke Zarathustra, the Bestowing Virtue

Now cometh the Scorpio-Year.

We can easily overcome sadness and overbearing powers if we man up and overcome the passivity in ourselves before our gods.
Jim asked where are the feasts we were promised?
You gave em to us friend.
Beyond that?
Is it just me, myself I and the shadow of the dragonfly?
Or is it more, and are we gaining ground?

As chaos in politics prevails, the order in the stars becomes... crystal clear.

If you are not, you should be preparing for Uranus into Taurus, mid 2018. That is one head from 1933, the invention of the atomic bomb and a rather unfortunate political transition. This can not apply to Trump, as he is firmly rooted in the Aries-Uranus spirit of anarchy. Uranus in Taurus is the invention and discoveries of new forms of order and dominion. And on a higher arc, of the power to create higher values. After all, what came out of WWII was a time of great prosperity. But are we going down that path?

Jupiter can tell, can direct, can even dictate if he wishes to. And believe or not, but Jupiter is that od that cares for prayer. Though prayer comes in many forms.

"Truth be told, my heart has gotten cold
for the suffering of those that tried to fit me in the mold"

GO your own way proudly -
just, more proudly than before. There is a god now. His name is Jupiter, he's back.

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Re: Jupiter-Time, 400 day calendar, approaching the Scorpioyear!

The next exact conjunction:

Thursday, October 26 2017, 01:58:41 PM
New York (New York), New York
74.00W ; 40.42N / 4W00, 05:58 PM UT

Just formulate your goals in that moment, and thank Jupiter for listening.
If you can say it directly to him/her (Jupiter has a feminine aspect, its well hidden, I believe it relates to Vesta)
. Edit: what about Juno? In mythology, Juno is Jupiter's or Zeus' daughter. It may be related to Athena (another Greek goddess figure) or Pallas too.

A Jovial year has to be 4,800 days, about 400 in a single sign, almost one per year. On my birth year 1980, Jupiter was in Virgo. The last time it was in Virgo was 2015-16, as well 1991-92 and 2003-04, transits into Libra the middle of the astrological zodiac year. Jupiter was in Scorpio in 1981-82, 1993-94 (Comet Levy-Shoemaker collided into the solar system's largest planet) and 2005-06. Jupiter in Virgo and Scorpio aren't the best of luck, this heralds difficult, trying times for both personal natal charts and horoscopes.
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The next exact conjunction:

Thursday, October 26 2017, 01:58:41 PM
New York (New York), New York
74.00W ; 40.42N / 4W00, 05:58 PM UT

Just formulate your goals in that moment, and thank Jupiter for listening.
If you can say it directly to him/her (Jupiter has a feminine aspect, its well hidden, I believe it relates to Vesta)
. Edit: what about Juno? In mythology, Juno is Jupiter's or Zeus' daughter. It may be related to Athena (another Greek goddess figure) or Pallas too.

A Jovial year has to be 4,800 days, about 400 in a single sign, almost one per year. On my birth year 1980, Jupiter was in Virgo. The last time it was in Virgo was 2015-16, as well 1991-92 and 2003-04, transits into Libra the middle of the astrological zodiac year. Jupiter was in Scorpio in 1981-82, 1993-94 (Comet Levy-Shoemaker collided into the solar system's largest planet) and 2005-06. Jupiter in Virgo and Scorpio aren't the best of luck, this heralds difficult, trying times for both personal natal charts and horoscopes.
There is no such thing as a bad sign for Jupiter. Its actually exalted in Virgo according to esoteric astrology, and in Scorpio it can work with Mars and Pluto - which means that it is definitely, definitely not for the scairt and meek - but Jupiter in Scorpio can do mighty things.

A few people with Jupiter in Scorpio.

Britney Spears
Justin Bieber
Sharon Stone
Elvis Presley
Uma Thurman
David Bowie
14th Dalai Lama
Mariah Carey
Napoleon I
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Prince William, Duke of Cambridge
Nicki Minaj
Tupac Shakur
Charles Manson
Matt Damon
Ellen DeGeneres
Steven Spielberg
Melania Trump
Lil Wayne
Viggo Mortensen
Elton John
Louis XIV of France

Not easy but Scorpio hates easy. Definitely proud and powerful.
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I really enjoyed reading this thread. Thank you for your invention, Blacksun.

(What's not to love about finding CAP and Blacksun in the same place? Only good things are bound to happen.)
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thanks Sadge.

Reward yourself. Observe this calendar.

Jupiter is a powerful ally. And you can be damned sure he is gratified with each and every bit of acknowledgement he gets.

Jupiter is as he makes his children.



And yes, I am his priest.
Sacrifices were made.


"When mourning is over, Morning arrives."

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I have Jupiter in late Scorpio Trine Sun in late Pisces. In Placidus, it's in H8; but, in Whole-sign, it's in H9--that's where it works best for me.
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Btw, in my own, very personal, VERY modern configuration, I have Jupiter "in service to" Aquarius under Uranian "native-rulership". And, Venus in service to Pisces under Neptunian native-rulership. I use the term "native-rulership" to mean the Influence that creates the "Sign-program" itself, but there's also a "regulatory-rulership" and an "in-service" rulership for each Sign. Pluto is the regulatory-ruler of Aquarius, and the Asc/Jupiter combination is regulatory for Pisces. Just sharing. Oh, should add, the Moon is the in-service ruler of Aquarius, and the Sun is the in-service ruler of Pisces.

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Jupiter is in my life for sure. My only ally at times, but that best one to have on your team if you ask me. Perhaps that's why I identified with the message of this thread. And I agree -- giving thanks for our bounty is part of the power.
I can tell he is and I tell you the more I get people to feed into this 13 month incremental calendar of bounty, the more Jupiter will come to take power from Saturn, who doesn't mind, just tests us, and bring lightness and possibility; free will in the air. Free will isn't possible without faith.

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I will, this is very vindicating. I must preach on - Jupiter rewards those that follow his path. Its just his cornucopian slipstream. Theres a certain surfer mentality to it. Unlike the Sun, Jupiter retrogrades, so it is a wobbly calendar, with really interesting quarter and mid-year events, Ive seen that quickly in these two years Ive watched the cardinal points for Jupiter-Sun time. This years opposition was Trumps Tomahawk strike, which signalled the paradigm of military reorganization of the globe that Uranus in Taurus is going to further play out. Uranus and Jupiter are now opposed, we should keep our ears open for them these days - and not try to understand, they are two powers of genius, its not possible to grasp rationally, in one human thought, what they say in high strung concert; just let them whisper directly to our deeper lying grey mass, the form of Binah which lies between them, that absorbs so much that we will later be aware of.

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I have Jupiter in late Scorpio Trine Sun in late Pisces. In Placidus, it's in H8; but, in Whole-sign, it's in H9--that's where it works best for me.
that seems to work better for me as well.

I have Juno in late Scorpio at the cusp of 8 (whole house Scorpio is 8) and Venus late Pisces deep in 12. Virgo is the only sign that is empty in my chart, intercepted in the sixth. Thats where the mystery lies, for me. My "hero" Nietzsche has his Mars on 27 Virgo directly opposed to my Venus. Very many significant events take place when planets are around that point, and people with planets there usually have a clean yet ruthless, Shivaic quality to them. The last degrees of the first half of the Zodiac, at the culmination point of the individual, the last point of resistance before it breaks up into Libra where the necessity to transcend the individual is recognized - this 27th and 28th degrees of Virgo are far prouder than any degree in Leo - far prouder than can be put on display without its displayer being completely ostracized, unless big favour is indicated otherwise. Lyrical musicians are the group that seems to know best what to do with it.

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Btw, in my own, very personal, VERY modern configuration, I have Jupiter "in service to" Aquarius under Uranian "native-rulership". And, Venus in service to Pisces under Neptunian native-rulership. I use the term "native-rulership" to mean the Influence that creates the "Sign-program" itself, but there's also a "regulatory-rulership" and an "in-service" rulership for each Sign. Pluto is the regulatory-ruler of Aquarius, and the Asc/Jupiter combination is regulatory for Pisces. Just sharing. Oh, should add, the Moon is the in-service ruler of Aquarius, and the Sun is the in-service ruler of Pisces.
Ive been increasingly aware of the need of something like that. Can you list those rulerships? Or at least tell me about the Fixed signs?
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I started by using a Heliocentric "cipher" to explain the reasoning for pre-Ptolemy Sign-rulerships. Ptolemy didn't invent them, but he did come up with a very attractive reason for them, which I nevertheless find lacking. Easy start: Aristarchus of Samos came up with the Heliocentric model (now attributed to Copernicus) around 200 B.C.E. So, the new Tropical Astrologers, using the Hipparchian starting point of 0 degrees Aries located at the Sun's position at the Vernal Equinox, had access to that Heliocentric model. Right away, Heliocentric, fiery, Fixed Sun, rules the Fixed-fire Sign; and, with only 7 rulers for 12 Signs, the Moon and Sun, moving in only one direction, will rule one Sign each; whereas the Planets move in both directions, and will rule two. Venus and Mars are equivalently located, adjacent to Earth's orbit around the Sun, and therefore rule the two Equinoctial-signs, with color and brightness determining Elements--Fire for Mars, Air for Venus. Earth's orbit is the Heliocentric reference-orbit, so the Moon is at the reference point, and Saturn is the farthest Planet away, within the limit (the Solstisces are at the limits of axial tilt), where the limiting factor is Naked-eye-vision. In the Northern Hemisphere, where Tropical-astrology developed, the Tropic of Cancer was closest, Tropic of Capricorn farthest away, so close Moon and far away Saturn get their rulerships. With those five in place, the rest follow. All right I won't bore anyone with how it unfolds from there, except to say that I've given both the Ascendant, and, the Age "tuning-fork", which resonates with the Earth's vibratory frequency, native-rulership status. The Ascendant, which is the visible point of Sunrise, rules Sagittarius. [Interesting sidenote: When you use a horizontal line to represent the Eastern horizon, and an arrow beginning below the line, signifying Sunrise, and pointing upward to the right (which is the direction the travels across the sky in the Northern Hemisphere), you get the symbol for Sagittarius.]
The "Earth" is Geocentically fixed in place in the center of the Zodiac, which corresponds to the Earth ruling Fixed-sign, Earth-sign Taurus. The pattern I'm using, which is about what I call the "Coefficient of Change", sets the native-rulerships for the Fixed and Mutable Signs, which are about willingness and unwillingness to change. The Cardinal-signs retain the native-rulerships from Heliocentric cipher, and are about positionality, separate and apart from the Coefficient of Change. Everything falls into place pretty much as expected, except for one glaring exception, and the Ancient-Greek religion explained that. So, I trust the configuration.
****************************Finally, to answer about the Fixed-signs: Taurus--native-ruler the Earth, through the agency of the Earth's Age tuning-fork (Gaia's Trident, when the center-point is included); regulating-ruler, the Planet I have totally feminized, Urania ; motivational-ruler, Jupiter; and, in-service ruler Venus, which has the greatest immediate effect on Taurus.
Leo--native-ruler the Sun; regulating, is the combination of Earth's tuning-fork (so the Age environment has a great effect on Leo, and on Sun-sign characteristics in general) and Urania; motivational-ruler, the Ascendant/Jupiter combination; and (in a great departure from traditional), in-service ruler Saturn. No question the Sun has the greatest influence over Leo of the group.
For Scorpio, native-ruler Pluto; regulating-ruler the Sun; motivational-ruler, Neptune; and, in-service ruler Mars. Pluto, then Mars have the greatest immediate influence of the four. (They ALL have influence over the Signs, but some are more subtle than others, depending on the Sign itself.)
Aquarius--native-ruler Urania; regulating-ruler Pluto; motivational-ruler Mercury; and, in-service ruler, the Moon. (Notice the complete absence here of Saturn regarding the rulership of Aquarius; which is, of course another major departure from tradition.)
The means for determining the regulating, motivating, and in-service rulerships is from a pattern using Modalities and Elements, running in Direct motion, with each Sign in transition to the next.
Btw, I do use these in Chart-readings, with good results.

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Wow. I just posted a Virgoan-style, Wall of Text!
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If you are not, you should be preparing for Uranus into Taurus, mid 2018. That is one head from 1933, the invention of the atomic bomb and a rather unfortunate political transition. This can not apply to Trump, as he is firmly rooted in the Aries-Uranus spirit of anarchy. Uranus in Taurus is the invention and discoveries of new forms of order and dominion. And on a higher arc, of the power to create higher values. After all, what came out of WWII was a time of great prosperity. But are we going down that path?
Uranus didn't enter taurus until mid 1934, when uranus was at critical degrees of aries, just like it has been currently events began getting set in motion. When uranus entered taurus there was so much activity in cancer, alongside pluto and lilith being in cancer. Which definitely aided the political climate and the nationalistic sentiments. It's concerning, that when uranus enters taurus again, in 2018, pluto and lilith will be conjunct in capricorn and saturn will also be in capricorn!!. Mars will be in capricorn also at that time temporarily. I agree people should be preparing for that period, things are definitely going to take a turn toward the negative for some time.
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Uranus didn't enter taurus until mid 1934, when uranus was at critical degrees of aries, just like it has been currently events began getting set in motion. When uranus entered taurus there was so much activity in cancer, alongside pluto and lilith being in cancer. Which definitely aided the political climate and the nationalistic sentiments. It's concerning, that when uranus enters taurus again, in 2018, pluto and lilith will be conjunct in capricorn and saturn will also be in capricorn!!. Mars will be in capricorn also at that time temporarily. I agree people should be preparing for that period, things are definitely going to take a turn toward the negative for some time.
Neptune in Pisces will be keeping things as mellow as possible, under the circumstances. In the 1930s, Neptune was in Virgo, which was a cause for depression and despair.
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Wow. I just posted a Virgoan-style, Wall of Text!
Sometimes I done that in a number of forums I been on for years, must be a dominant sign Virgo thing...and I don't really have Virgo Denial syndrome.
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Sometimes I done that in a number of forums I been on for years, must be a dominant sign Virgo thing...and I don't really have Virgo Denial syndrome.
Mercury, Venus and Mars are in Virgo. I have no Virgoan placements except for the Descendant, which I see as being about one's personal attitude concerning traditions (Astrology included). That's why [IMO] I look for regular patterns and analyze traditions instead of just accepting them as they're usually presented. Virgo, like Gemini, isn't tied to only one thought structure, so it can play with the possibilities.
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David - thanks very much. I can relate to these attributions - for example, the tie of Pluto to Aquarius, Ive long sensed. Its a plausible system with these different functions, more plausible than "this planet rules this sign, period", which Franky doesn't make a whole lot of ontological sense.

Yes. Neptune in Pisces guarantees that the outcome here will potentially be very positive. That is why I am stressing that we all prepare. We can quite literally count on a take-over of world-idealism by truer minds than have hitherto held rulership of global efforts.

ashriia - Note taken about the date, '34.

I don't think things will turn for the more negative, I think things have been in the bleakest pit of hell since the late 90's when the US started bombing Central Europe and the western military alliance unveiled its nature as a continuation of nazi politics.

Trumps victory brought an end to the security of this apparatus, he has thrown a wrench in the wheels. So what we will see is an unraveling of the global order of Neomarxist idealism (by means of the absurdities of identity-politics, totalitarian victim-ideology, race- and gender-based ideologies, ochlocracy) and the rise of all sorts of new power structures competing for a place in the vacuum that has been torn open by the fall of the media-driven system of satisfying the laziest and dumbest of our species with nice fat big lies, so that the lazy and dumb will oppress the more human beings, as is the case in all mob-regulated social structures.

To my mind the world could not have been darker at any moment in time than it was in 2014 and 'early '15. It was so evil that I don't want to talk about it - but I am pretty sure we came through the eye of the needle there. I was ready to kill myself because of the seeming success of a Nato coup in Russia, which for me would have meant the loss of all that is good.

Trumps victory is the acknowledgement that our species is in fact human, so pretty messy, so that we can start looking at ourselves. Most post WWII American presidents have been quite monstrous, but somehow maintained the aura of sanctimony. Trump has no such aura, which feels to me like the bubonic plague has been lifted. If there is one thing I find to be evil it is killing with a morally self-satisfied grin, which was Obamas speciality. I supported him fanatically from 2004 when he published his book, to 2008 when he was elected, but I saw his cold heart the very moment he took the stage that very november night. All his magnetic, personable humanity was gone in an instant, and what remained was an abstract shell of phraseology and cool mannerisms.

Trump may not be very good, but he is most certainly not evil. He is far too clumsy a persona to be evil.
He is "human, all-too-human" and ostensibly so; That is a big, big step forward for the US. The nation had come a long way since it elected a veritable monkey, GW Bush, for leadership.

Behind the Donalds clumsiness is a very reliable determination to work on behalf of the US, look at his cardinal placements.

His Bannonian agenda has been usurped by all the forces that were deeper behind him - such as Israeli security - but all of this is a glorious, narrow escape from being ruled by a proven pedophile-ringleader, which would really have meant the end of western civilization, either nuclear or civil war was absolutely guaranteed, and first nuclear, then civil war was a more than likely outcome. After all she caused the collapse of several nations, plunged them into literal hell, just to be noticed by the apparatus. Humans do not get more evil. I resent the idea that she, simply by being technically a woman, represents woman-kind. If that were the case I most assuredly would not have been born. She is the most degrading example to womankind.

Im perfectly sure that many voters sensed this threat in their hearts when they entered the voting booths. Jupiter was victorious that night; this is Trumps Jupiter-year.

Pluto has been hovering directly opposed the US natal sun for years, all this breaking down of the nation so as for it to build itself somewhat anew has been explicitly predicted by Dutch astrologers (a school largely oriented on the black lights, dark moon, black sun, the nodes) some decades ago. Of course in 6 years or so, Pluto will be entering Aquarius, where it entered last in 1776. Preparing for that time, which will be a time of new legislation, is wise.

Disclaimer: politics is always wicked, treacherous, dishonest and unfair. That is what it is. So therefore I like Trump; he does not manage to fool people into thinking he is some kind of saint. That theater, of which Clinton and Obama were aspiring champions, is the most dangerous thing in this world. This paradigm shift is a matter of lowering expectations about politicians, and raising expectations about civilians. It is a time of growing up.

"The time is coming when politics will have a different meaning." - Nietzsche

This does not mean anything against female leadership, and all suggestions to that effect are absurd - the idea that a genocidal pedophile champion would be the only option for womankind to lead is very insulting to womankind. Is it not?

Right now Merkel is arguably the most influential leader in the world. She has made of Germany the leader of Europe, entirely without military means. This trend will likely continue; stoic, non-ideological, pragmatic, unemotional female leaders managing the worlds great economies without desire for muscle flexing.
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Blacksun?, what's your take on the 15th card of the Major Arcana? I'm asking in relation to the Tropical Age of Capricorn, which is slowly shifting into Aquarius, but is also culminating at the very end.
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Thats a good question - Ive been thinking about that card for the past years.
In the Tree, it connects the sphere of Mercury (Hod, Splendour) to the Sun center of Tipharet. Suggesting thus that Tipharet ("Beauty") is, from the rational perspective, beyond good and evil. The card that connects the opposite pole, Netzach (Venus) to Tipharet is Arcanum XIII, Death. This means that whichever basic human position we use to approach the "Christ-center" as Tipharet is also referred to, it'll bring a cataclysmic change in our standards of life. We have to transcend boundaries, and, per XV, own up to our bondage, our humanity, and per XIII, own up to our mortality, our potential arbitrariness. To transcend the arbitrariness is to attain to Soul, to leave behind petty personal interests and live for ones legacy.

From Tipharet upward to Binah, we have Trump VI, the Lovers, which evidently is XV on a higher arc.

I could argue that Obama (came to power as Pluto entered Cap) and Trump together kind of amount to Trump XV. Note, by the way, the "Trump: Tower" is Arcanum XVI, '16...

Great movements of power always are accompanied by sublime and terrifying symbolism.
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You raise a tremendous issue.

This notion of Capricorn culminating in the end, yes, very manifestly so now that you mention it. I like your direction more, in any case, than the suggestion of coming out of Pisces.

So Capricorn culminates, and we are thrown back onto our Saturnian nature, Saturn naturally the old Devil, Satan the Adversary; he who makes it clear what needs to be overcome to attain to true being; he who manifests for us all our potential forms of slavery, so that we can work through them so that, in the end, we have earned mastery, rather than that we just pay a therapist or vote someone in office to tell us how entitled we are.

So what do we do with this information? How to act on this... I suppose it would work to address the trickster-Gods, to begin with: for me that means Odin - and Loki

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I wish to mention to the violently anti-Trump that I am in no way racist or intolerant - my friends and lovers include of all kinds of races and religions. Ive en considered turning to Islam just to be able to be with someone I love. That is my Aquarian nature, I really do not give a flying -- for these things. I just hate shows like "dear white people", which is as blatantly racist as the Klu Klux Klan.
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I wish to mention to the violently anti-Trump that I am in no way racist or intolerant - my friends and lovers include of all kinds of races and religions. Ive en considered turning to Islam just to be able to be with someone I love. That is my Aquarian nature, I really do not give a flying -- for these things. I just hate shows like "dear white people", which is as blatantly racist as the Klu Klux Klan.
Yeah, but not any recorded cases I know of, where Kurt Klux Klan members were lynched, burned, or driven out of their homes and businesses. I've stopped using color-coding to describe race, because it's too broad-brush to be of real descriptive value. It helped get away from the "n-word", but we can now do without the blatantly divisive and misleading terms, "black people" and "white people".
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Thats a good question - Ive been thinking about that card for the past years.
In the Tree, it connects the sphere of Mercury (Hod, Splendour) to the Sun center of Tipharet. Suggesting thus that Tipharet ("Beauty") is, from the rational perspective, beyond good and evil. The card that connects the opposite pole, Netzach (Venus) to Tipharet is Arcanum XIII, Death. This means that whichever basic human position we use to approach the "Christ-center" as Tipharet is also referred to, it'll bring a cataclysmic change in our standards of life. We have to transcend boundaries, and, per XV, own up to our bondage, our humanity, and per XIII, own up to our mortality, our potential arbitrariness. To transcend the arbitrariness is to attain to Soul, to leave behind petty personal interests and live for ones legacy.

From Tipharet upward to Binah, we have Trump VI, the Lovers, which evidently is XV on a higher arc.

I could argue that Obama (came to power as Pluto entered Cap) and Trump together kind of amount to Trump XV. Note, by the way, the "Trump: Tower" is Arcanum XVI, '16...

Great movements of power always are accompanied by sublime and terrifying symbolism.
Yeah, I was also impressed by Trump Tower relative to the 16th Card. In linear fashion, the 17th Card comes next, so maybe Trump's rise to power (and his fall, according to the R/W imagery) is a necessary prelude to the advent of the Tropical Age of Aquarius. So, is that Jupiter's thunderbolt striking the tower? I do have Jupiter as the Planet supportive of Aquarius.
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Yes.
Its a problem for me since my family was white and Jewish, so they got killed and still are getting oppressed in Amsterdam by now, as it happens, non-whites (Jews can't openly exist in northern Europe since the late 90's when the beatings began) - so I find it literally dizzying in stupidity, this racism addressed to white people which is masked as some kind of moral superiority. It is even worse than the blatant cruel antisemitism I get thrown at me since the internet exists, as that at leas doesn't make claims to morality. Or it didn't, back in the early 0's. Now actually it does, using the Jew as the scapegoat again. Its excruciating, nauseating, paralyzing, as all these cowards that disgrace my fathers terminated family hide behind the internet. Clintons blatant disqualifying of "white males" guarantees white male supremacy. Its only that these bastards are so hideously moronic that I don't lean toward it myself - I feel highly unsafe, and have been ostracized by nearly everyone in my native country, who all still believe in Bill Clintons eternal goodness - all this on racial and gender based models. So for me the end of the world has come and passed, hell froze over when Trump won. I still feel the relief.

Like many people who feel identified with their skin color because they been addressed on it since infancy, I am highly sensitive to racism. "dear white people" is Americas Mein Kampf, as far as Im concerned. It represents the exact same spirit; one race is to blame for another races miseries.

The saddest part is that it is not black people driving those shows and these narratives; let alone native Americans, who as far as I can figure should generally be elevated into the highest offices, I don't know why it doesn't occur to the general spirit of the US to symbolically and emotionally rectify what can still be rectified. Its really bizarre. If there is one group that should be positively discriminated it is the original inhabitants. Really freaky that it doesn't occur. It is of course natural that it would be a struggle against vested interests, but not that there is no such struggle.

It can not come from these people, as they have clearly been made to see what happens if they try to openly have self-respect.

That is the only thing that can propel the US into the future; an intellectually solid Native American candidacy. 0% chance of real recovery without that.
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I had no idea anti-Judaism (which is really what it is) was still so prevalent in Europe. Where did this happen to your family, if you don't mind saying?
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Some of these tribes, I think that loosely knit society of roamers and warriors in general, was to my mind surely the healthiest species of humanity that ever lived. Only the ancient Greeks and some of these other tribes were in the regions of that health; the Germans of the Middle Ages are perhaps the least healthy of all humans Ive studied - the society that was least benefitted by Christianity, true "wild men"; their taming was the beginning of a very dangerous project nature is now reaping the fruits of, after having nearly perished of her own ruthlessness. What doesn't kill her makes her stronger, I suppose. Not all of us, it doesn't - life in a dungeon has rarely emboldened someone. Nelson Mandela, but that is speaking of exceptions to many rules. Ive seen these German inventions in a really scary castle when I was living in Austria, the most magical place - no torture devices, it was rather the desperate intricacies of their frivolities that scared me. They were crafty like Dwarves, trying desperately to be Elves.

Yeah, Nietzsche forced me, with the help of the only Nietzsche students I could find online that had some fire to them, to engage the most unpleasant aspects of psychology - genealogy. I had to confront the fact of my Jewish heritage on the harshest terms - - I was bound to own up to the very reason that my ancestors have been persecuted - and that has led, dangerously for my personality, also to the owning up also of the reason they managed to survive; their capacity to turn malice inflicted on them into an asset against their despotic oppressors. Christianity itself could be explained in these terms, if we want to be cynical and innocent at once; as a contemptible, otherworldly ghostly offshoot of a misguided claim to Judaeic priesthood working to beat down the Romans who violated the temple. I don't think any Jew intended for this, because the Orthodox (actual Jews, living by the Talmud, the ever evolving interpretation of the Torah, as I understand from Chaim Potok, Brooklynese Chasidim do it through Kabbalistic alchemy, but probably others through natural adaption to the threats and hopes of the times) loathe the idea of such a emotional and sado-erotic tomfoolery substituting for the emanation of Atziluth - it is too passive, too... fleshy... Jews separate dairy and meat, let alone that they would hang a naked crucified man in their house, and their persecution did continue under Christian times - but nonetheless all the warlike tribes tamed themselves, began to relate positively to Jerusalem, and allowed Jews to rise in their ranks. Even to attain PM ship in Britain, which no doubt contributed to the creation of the state of Israel. I try to see all this aside from good and evil (not "beyond" them, that is not at all what "Jehnseits" means); to see what old and tested global powers want to happen, rather than what I want to happen. An arc of will some 3000 years which is about to be resolved. The definitive victory, security of that will qua arc, narrative, was the creation of the state of Israel, which is so magical that people retroactively attribute the nazi-hate for Jews to the Jews themselves - the demon of absurdity has thereby reached cosmic powers - what the Jews did do was turn yet again another malice inflicted upon them to the advantage of the surviving ones. Revenge, again. Mr. Israel keeps playing the best game of chess. And its closing on a checkmate - they are prying at the defences of the final piece; King Solomons lair.

Better freshen up, drink some lemon water. Iced Tea on the Porch if you have them. This one ancient Egypto-Hebreiac codex of willpower is not the only one coming to a resolution.

At least, from where Im standing, I can see a hot sun rising next summer.

We are all Arjuna, we are standing on Kurukshetra. Krishna speaks to us - fight or choose non-existence. You fight for your side. He does not clarify which side that is - this is not the complicated part. The complicated part is to muster the simplicity of will to go in total berserker mode for ones values. The simpler your morality is, the easier this mode is to attain. For a modern western astrologer this means that it is extremely difficult. But once attained, the mightiest of all armies.

Fixed Stars - you don't want these things as your enemies. We all have them working as unspeakable adversaries, Satans and immense White Magicians but these things are powerful beyond anything else. True fate-anchors, people ruled by these things don't normally have a lot of self-understanding, as they simply don't require it. An entity can be rocketed through life on a conjunction of Pluto and Jupiter in Regulus in some lofty house, and attain godly status for al the world without being a character of any particular merit. They just forge the right conditions at the right times.

The Galactic Center - a friend of mine has Lilith, Dark Moon on it. He is one of those guys that can read a persons chart and soul in both ways. His eyes are truly hawk like and flare up when he is spiritually incensed. On some level, Black Moon on the Galactic Center is the pure Isis, before whom even felines lower their eyes. Not I, though, I stared him down out of sheer curiosity to see the gaze change. I don't know with what force. Venus in Pisces, probably. The love for all things as they stand in their power, and to see the limit of that power so as to see the whole flower.

Yeah, Ive done a study on this. All significant Russians have the last decant of Pisces occupied. With the exception, fittingly, of the cosmopolitan Tolstoy who is an ideologue of experience, not an innocent cynic, like Dostoyevski, Putin, Rasputin, Stalin, Lenin, whomever of these violent and unfathomably clever men. There is the power for evil in late Pisces. My Venus there, in the 12th house, is privy to quite a bit of dark magic - but it doesn't affect her, other than as a melancholic environment of human tears, a black sea of tears under a lily.

The salt of the earth is shed by dried tears of joy and sorrow before they were split, or after they came together; the Equinox.
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They were deported, like all Jews there, from Amsterdam and other dutch cities and put in sobibor, Auschwitz, and all died except for my grandfather, who escaped three times (!!!!!! ) and then became leading intellectual of the civil right nd hippy movements in post war Holland with his thesis for his doctorate "the praise of unadaptedness".

My dad, born in 1943 the day the war turn at Stalingrad (you can imagine the power of his chart if you don't hold back) was hidden with a truly extremely nice couple from the town of Haarlem. One of my nicest memories of childhood is I was sitting at this small table designated for me as the old ones sat on the big table, and this man and his wife came in, and he took off his hat, and sat down across from me at my small table. I recently saw a picture of my dad as a small boy in the garden, as the war came to its end some hundred miles away, with the happiest and most endearing grin of mischief -
the second wife of my returning grandfather was not inclined to let him keep that smile. She is a hard woman, who only likes me, because I see evil coming from a distance. Hawk-Eyes. Also Sagittarius, but rather Antares than the Galactic Center. War, war, war, war, war, because peace. I made a portrait of her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h37IUyfqDRQ

As she predicted I the 90s as she was painting my portrait and we had a lot of time to talk, there now is a religious war everywhere in Northern Europe, and all Jews, as well as gays and lesbians, that openly carry their faith/heritage/nature in some form of congregation (like hand holding with gays) or symbol, (like head covering, or any traditional clothing or hair style for Jews) have been beaten in the streets util it all became normalized to acceptable standards of a Sharia prospecting project. Iv intimate muslim friends, and all of them agree without question that the goal is to have Sharia rule the entire Earth, as of course gods will is good, and what opposes or contradicts it, is not. It is one of these faiths where to take things less than literally is to be immediately ostracized, as there isn't any room for interpretation of these particular verses. Its a truly severe religion. It fits entirely with race and sex politics, as it is also expert in maneuvering itself in the victim position as it beheads people. Theo Van Gogh, the family of Vincent Van Gogh, had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the street where I did my groceries, about ten years after my grandmother predicted that people were underestimating the faith of these muslims. Muslims were applauding nation wide, and there was no way to reprimand them, as very few muslims manage to attain a feeling of respect for the earthly authorities of a nation that isn't theocratic, let alone for the expression of criticism.

Germany is the only nation in control of this stuff, because it directly enforces German morality on immigrants; obedience. This theocratic streak is kind of helpful in their case. But they do far more active selecting, drawing most from the strongest population, such as the Turks and Syrians, ancient, highly cultivated warrior types - these, they integrate warmly and make into New Germans, where in other nations, all large cities have a ring of slums populated by Arabs from North Africa, who are neither desired by nor desiring of partaking in the pompously impotent modern society. I really like the ways of Arabs, and it is a struggle to not join them in contempt for my current nation - I need to actively remind me - and them - of the glories of the battle for independence of the spirit that Willen van Oranje forged, ending our 80 year liberation war.

Some distant relatives of my dad now live in Israel. One family came back to Holland and set up a real estate business. They're ******s, liberal Jews, taking the pride without the burden, turning it to arrogance, insulting my non Jewish mother in my fathers presence. I can't see how that is worth of respect Either you sacrifice your free will to YHWH and live in the joy of that sacrifice, or you drop the claim to your "Chosen-ness". They are arrogant enough that they can feel chosen by God without choosing Him back. That is not how it works, in my opinion.

In some weird obverse form of liberality, in Israel, real service to YHWH seems to me to include military service, but more and more Jews claim Orthodoxy so as to escape military service. That might become the end of the nation. Irony might win over the strong heart.
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