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Cary2

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Most astrologers catagorize their fellow astrologers according to the two catagories, modern and traditional. I use three catagories so I can introduce myself more accurately. What are usually called "modern astrologers", I tend catagorize as conventional astrologers, those who follow the form that was prominent in the 20th century.

True modern astrologers, in my way of thinking, start with Johannes Kepler who actually predates William Lilly. In fact, I believe Kepler was the first so-called psychological astrologer. Kepler perceived the harmonic nature of aspects. So the term "traditional astrologers" does not work for me based on dates or antiquity. Though William Lilly praised Kepler, I don't think he was in Kepler's catagory. Kepler invented the most prominent of the so-called minor aspects, and he was skeptical of his contemporaries and skeptical of the validity of houses.

In my view, Modern astrologers like Kepler, Ebertin, and Seymour-Smith diminish the importance of houses and signs while emphasizing the importance of planetary contacts and configurations. Some ignore houses, but others simply derate them in overall importance. Conventional astrologers, of the 20th century variety, often put house and sign interpretation first followed by other considerations. Traditional astrologers seem to defy definition since they have numerous subcategories; they must qualify themselves accordingly.

Most of the books available on astrology are based on conventional astrology. I'm happy to be here, and I look forward to the forum.
 

JUPITERASC

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Most astrologers catagorize their fellow astrologers
according to the two catagories, modern and traditional.
I use three catagories so I can introduce myself more accurately.
What are usually called "modern astrologers", I tend catagorize as conventional astrologers,
those who follow the form that was prominent in the 20th century.
True modern astrologers, in my way of thinking, start with Johannes Kepler
who actually predates William Lilly.

In fact, I believe Kepler was the first so-called psychological astrologer.
Kepler perceived the harmonic nature of aspects.
So the term "traditional astrologers" does not work for me based on dates or antiquity.
Though William Lilly praised Kepler, I don't think he was in Kepler's catagory.
Kepler invented the most prominent of the so-called minor aspects,
and he was skeptical of his contemporaries
and skeptical of the validity of houses.


In my view, Modern astrologers like Kepler, Ebertin, and Seymour-Smith
diminish the importance of houses and signs
while emphasizing the importance of planetary contacts and configurations.
Some ignore houses, but others simply derate them in overall importance.
Conventional astrologers, of the 20th century variety,
often put house and sign interpretation first followed by other considerations.
Traditional astrologers seem to defy definition
since they have numerous subcategories; they must qualify themselves accordingly.
Most of the books available on astrology
are based on conventional astrology.
I'm happy to be here, and I look forward to the forum.
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Cary2

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JUPITERASC showers me with suggestions (or advice?) I didn't ask for and showers me with comments whose motives are questionable. When I have been attacked by a marauding sectarian, he displayed his gleaming approval. I will avoid him the best I can under the circumstances.

I have years of experience in the astrological field, and though I can't speak for the celebrities in Traditional Astrology field, the majority of traditional astrologers I have encountered want to start a sectarian war similar to the 100 Years War in Europe between the Catholics and Protestants. I was once attacked by a squad of traditional astrologers from Skyscript who teamed up against me to harass me with the blessing of a Site Administrator who despises Americans.

The team who attacked me would not demonstrate their craft in natal interpretation, but they loitered around those who did so they could heckle and harass. I think that's because they suck.

Anyone can call himself an astrologer. That is a good reason to be wary of strangers.
 

SunConjunctUranus

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JUPITERASC showers me with suggestions (or advice?) I didn't ask for and showers me with comments whose motives are questionable. When I have been attacked by a marauding sectarian, he displayed his gleaming approval. I will avoid him the best I can under the circumstances.

I have years of experience in the astrological field, and though I can't speak for the celebrities in Traditional Astrology field, the majority of traditional astrologers I have encountered want to start a sectarian war similar to the 100 Years War in Europe between the Catholics and Protestants. I was once attacked by a squad of traditional astrologers from Skyscript who teamed up against me to harass me with the blessing of a Site Administrator who despises Americans.

The team who attacked me would not demonstrate their craft in natal interpretation, but they loitered around those who did so they could heckle and harass. I think that's because they suck.

Anyone can call himself an astrologer. That is a good reason to be wary of strangers.

Cary2,

They're usually giving navigation for new members who are not very familiar in this forum. Thanks for the clarification from your experience, I think the are just unaware that you have experience such as in skyscript. And don't worry about being attacked by traditionalist sectarian, JUPITERASC might be a Buddhist, judging by looking at their contributions in this thread: https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93528&page=13

Best regards,
R
 

Cary2

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No, I was not visiting Skyscript. I have never been at that forum. I was at a site known to be a modern astrology site. Some Skyscript thugs just came by to start a war.
 

Cary2

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As to "sectarian", the sects I'm referring to are Traditional and Modern. The marauders are full of self-styled piety for their pretense at infallibility. Oh, such indignation that you don't agree and you aren't impressed by their intimidation tactics. It is their lack at debating skill (or lack of argument material) that causes them to back-bite in a conspiratorial way and to shower you with contempt rather than convince you with substance.
 
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SunConjunctUranus

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As to "sectarian", the sects I'm referring to are Traditional and Modern. The marauders are full of self-styled piety for their pretense at infallibility. Oh, such indignation that you don't agree and you aren't impressed by their intimidation tactics. It is their lack at debating skill (or lack of argument material) that causes them to back-bite in a conspiratorial way and to shower you with contempt rather than convince you with substance.

Cary2,

Yes, it's happen everywhere in astrological community. As a traditionalist student myself, your thought has been challenged me to be more respectful to other branch of astrology. Thanks for sharing your experience.

Best regards
R
 
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JUPITERASC

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JUPITERASC showers me with suggestions (or advice?) I didn't ask for and showers me with comments whose motives are questionable. When I have been attacked by a marauding sectarian, he displayed his gleaming approval. I will avoid him the best I can under the circumstances.

I have years of experience in the astrological field, and though I can't speak for the celebrities in Traditional Astrology field, the majority of traditional astrologers I have encountered want to start a sectarian war similar to the 100 Years War in Europe between the Catholics and Protestants. I was once attacked by a squad of traditional astrologers from Skyscript who teamed up against me to harass me with the blessing of a Site Administrator who despises Americans.

The team who attacked me would not demonstrate their craft in natal interpretation, but they loitered around those who did so they could heckle and harass. I think that's because they suck.
Anyone can call himself an astrologer. That is a good reason to be wary of strangers.
Exactly - no qualifications are required to self-style as an astrologer :smile:
 

JUPITERASC

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Most astrologers catagorize their fellow astrologers according to the two catagories, modern and traditional. I use three catagories so I can introduce myself more accurately. What are usually called "modern astrologers", I tend catagorize as conventional astrologers, those who follow the form that was prominent in the 20th century.

True modern astrologers, in my way of thinking, start with Johannes Kepler who actually predates William Lilly. In fact, I believe Kepler was the first so-called psychological astrologer. Kepler perceived the harmonic nature of aspects. So the term "traditional astrologers" does not work for me based on dates or antiquity. Though William Lilly praised Kepler, I don't think he was in Kepler's catagory. Kepler invented the most prominent of the so-called minor aspects, and he was skeptical of his contemporaries and skeptical of the validity of houses.

In my view, Modern astrologers like Kepler, Ebertin, and Seymour-Smith diminish the importance of houses and signs while emphasizing the importance of planetary contacts and configurations. Some ignore houses, but others simply derate them in overall importance. Conventional astrologers, of the 20th century variety, often put house and sign interpretation first followed by other considerations. Traditional astrologers seem to defy definition since they have numerous subcategories; they must qualify themselves accordingly.

Most of the books available on astrology are based on conventional astrology. I'm happy to be here, and I look forward to the forum.
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