Astrology and Physical Appearance (With ideas on human biology and psychology)

Animatrix

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What do you think of her daughters? She also has very beautiful daughters.

Ingrid's? Yes I have seen them, they are beautiful. But Ingrid is my love forever.

Just look at her:
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I just dream I sit on my motorcycle on my way to school and when I arrive, this beautiful angel sits there and looks at me like that. I would die! What have I become really... Was not always like this hehe.
 

love-thinking

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Most of the men on my list are men I don't find charismatic, but women all over the world have another opinion. Brad Pitt is like the symbol of male beauty, so if you personally think that he is not charismatic, then that is your opinion - Brad Pitt is charismatic, one can almost say that for a fact, since billions of girls and women (and men!) want him/want to be like him.

He's attractive. My favourite man honestly and always will be Ryan Gosling. He has sun in scorpio. I fell in love with him in the Notebook and then again in the movie Blue Valentine.

I also really like Eminem-but here's something interesting I would have expected this man to be super plutonic given his relationship with Kim and his songs about obsessive love.

I also think johnathan rhys meyers is hot(he was in the tudors).

But the acchetype of pluto goes to The Weekend. I don't know if you know him. He's not aesthetically " hot." But his music and style is just amazing. His persona is dark and sexual and his music has an air of mystery to it like you can't really figure him out like you can in some way figure out other celebrities or artists.

His moon is in scorpio and conjuncts pluto.

Elizabeth Taylor has ascendent biquintile pluto. Now you can count that if you like to but I don't really give much emphasis to small aspects such as this. But the biquintile apparently does have to do with talent so maybe I'm wrong? She had moon in scorpio trine pluto I believe. She was also born at night time, so I believe that's why pluto strongly shows up in her appearance . A man offered lots of money to marry her once; a man that had dated katherine hepburn I believe. She was also called "supernaturally beautiful."

I agree with your statement regarding scarlett. I think she's pretty ordinary looking too(she does however have a nice hourglass figure). But here's the thing, what causes someone to be regarded as sexy or beautiful even when they are ordinary looking with average features? That's why she seems like she does have some sexual charisma or sex appeal. She doesn't look like the pluto archetype as she was born in day time unlike elizabeth taylor, but she does have moon in scorpio. She's constantly in the top most beautiful women in the world lists so I wouldn't really overlook her if I were you.

Blake Lively's face is actually also very ordinary looking, what makes her stand out is her perfect body, glowing skin, nice long hair, and her height. Her nose is ugly but she does look close to a model with curves so she has that going for her. Whereas scarlet doesn't. Also, you know how pluto stands for the darkness, the sun is the light and a lot of people are very attracted to confident happy and beautiful woman like Blake. I also really respect her for fighting against child pornography.
 

love-thinking

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Ingrid's? Yes I have seen them, they are beautiful. But Ingrid is my love forever.

Just look at her:
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I just dream I sit on my motorcycle on my way to school and when I arrive, this beautiful angel sits there and looks at me like that. I would die! What have I become really... Was not always like this hehe.

Do you watch a lot of her movies? You are not from her generation so did you grow up watching her movies?
 

Sunset

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I feel like if you are born at the day time, lilith should show up in your appearance. I have a cousin who's very beautiful and she has no pluto or venus placements to her sun, moon or ascendent. But she's only superficially pretty, I don't really see her as magnetic nor does she have a magnetic personality. Lilith often gives something to the native that has power over the man, and that could come in the form of beauty, money and/or intelligence-she has all three. Her sun is in pisces though, but her eyes are super intense -I thought she was a scorpio actually but she doesn't have scorpio's head shape. You sound very attractive by the way.

Birth time is 7:00 am, that counts for daytime I think?
I really wonder what it is with that Lilith aspect. I feel like it expresses itself especially through dancing. I like, for example, the more sensual kind of music and when I dance on it, it expresses sensuality. At home that works fine but outdoors, it is dangerous and I always feel like I attract too much attention with it. But I can't move any other way and that’s a shame but I like dancing so much. I really think this is the work of Lillith.
 

love-thinking

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Scarlett Johansson? I really don't see the appeal, she looks average. No magnetism, but yeah there is something lusty about her maybe. But would you compare her to Grace Kelly and Ingrid Bergman? Or Angelina Jolie? Seriously, men today have no standards. They think every woman is hot, it is annoying lol. Most men are very simple, actually, and that is perhaps good for women! Men usually don't have an eye for beauty. Yeah sure, they think that woman is hot or that girl is cute, but they don't appreciate the little details, they are too indiscriminate.

Elizabeth Taylor got Pluto-Ascendant aspect. Marilyn too. One could of course ask if Pluto makes such a huge impact even with a minor aspect but you say about one-fourth is born with Sun-Pluto. That miight be true, but I'd say that nearly all sex symbols got Sun-Pluto, it is way above average numbers.

Blake Lively is not Plutonic in that sense, but she got SEX APPEAL. She is very sexy. But did you know that she had a plastic surgery??? Her nose was very big before. She was not this superpretty girl in her youth actually. But that doesn't matter, she got the appeal. Hollywood fixed her teeth and nose, and breasts.

Ingrid Bergman was natural - she never did anything to alter her appearance.

But I need to investigate HOW and WHY Pluto sometimes adds that magnetic look. Sun-Pluto is no guarantee for sex appeal but it sure is the best indicator of it.

What do you think of Alexander Skarsgård? I checked his birth chart. He has no Sun-Pluto or Ascendant-Pluto. In my opinion, he is very good looking, nice features, athletic, but, he lacks all sex appeal - but that is my opinion. Eyes looking too troubled, you decide. Here's a picture:
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He got Virgo Sun and Ascendant. Venus and Pluto conjunct Mars, but that's it. No other sexual aspects.

This man was in true blood right? Did you watch that show?
 

love-thinking

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Birth time is 7:00 am, that counts for daytime I think?
I really wonder what it is with that Lilith aspect. I feel like it expresses itself especially through dancing. I like, for example, the more sensual kind of music and when I dance on it, it expresses sensuality. At home that works fine but outdoors, it is dangerous and I always feel like I attract too much attention with it. But I can't move any other way and that’s a shame but I like dancing so much. I really think this is the work of Lillith.

It counts if you were born after sun rise . I have a niece(cousin's daughter), if you ever saw her dance. She's such a good dancer it's ridiculous. She can put older women to shame. She has mars-lilith and I believe she may have sun-lilith aspects as well.
 

Animatrix

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He's attractive. My favourite man honestly and always will be Ryan Gosling. He has sun in scorpio. I fell in love with him in the Notebook and then again in the movie Blue Valentine.

I also really like Eminem-but here's something interesting I would have expected this man to be super plutonic given his relationship with Kim and his songs about obsessive love.

I also think johnathan rhys meyers is hot(he was in the tudors).

But the acchetype of pluto goes to The Weekend. I don't know if you know him. He's not aesthetically " hot." But his music and style is just amazing. His persona is dark and sexual and his music has an air of mystery to it like you can't really figure him out like you can in some way figure out other celebrities or artists.

His moon is in scorpio and conjuncts pluto.

Elizabeth Taylor has ascendent biquintile pluto. Now you can count that if you like to but I don't really give much emphasis to small aspects such as this. But the biquintile apparently does have to do with talent so maybe I'm wrong? She had moon in scorpio trine pluto I believe. She was also born at night time, so I believe that's why pluto strongly shows up in her appearance . A man offered lots of money to marry her once; a man that had dated katherine hepburn I believe. She was also called "supernaturally beautiful."

I agree with your statement regarding scarlett. I think she's pretty ordinary looking too(she does however have a nice hourglass figure). But here's the thing, what causes someone to be regarded as sexy or beautiful even when they are ordinary looking with average features? That's why she seems like she does have some sexual charisma or sex appeal. She doesn't look like the pluto archetype as she was born in day time unlike elizabeth taylor, but she does have moon in scorpio. She's constantly in the top most beautiful women in the world lists so I wouldn't really overlook her if I were you.

Blake Lively's face is actually also very ordinary looking, what makes her stand out is her perfect body, glowing skin, nice long hair, and her height. Her nose is ugly but she does look close to a model with curves so she has that going for her. Whereas scarlet doesn't. Also, you know how pluto stands for the darkness, the sun is the light and a lot of people are very attracted to confident happy and beautiful woman like Blake. I also really respect her for fighting against child pornography.

Do you think Ryan Gosling is more attractive than Brad Pitt?
Brad Pitt in his prime:
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I agree with you perhaps it is doubtful if Elizabeth taylor's appeal can be explained by a bi-quintile to her ascendant from Pluto - that would be far-fetched and unfair. But yeah you must be right about that Moon thing. Because Elizabeth Taylor is plutonic, definitely. She really looks like a plutonic queen.

I am a little skeptical against those "sex symbols" pushed forth my the mainstream media. Sex symbols are very rare, I have come across a handful in my life, and I have met a lot of people. Most "hot men/women" are really average, but they get this stardom and are constantly talked about in newspapers as if they are icons of beauty. Scarlett Johansson is such a woman. I just don't think she is the kind of a woman that can intimidate guys with her looks. She is hot, that's it, in my opinion. People were mesmerized by Ingrid Bergman, Grace Kelly etc. Same with men. Just look at women interviewing Brad Pitt. Now I have always thought Brad Pitt looks good on pictures, but his mannerisms and voice is so disturbing to me, but only I seem to think that. But when he is interviewed, you can see that the women are really intimidated and nervous when talking to him. Same with Flynn, he was intimidating, and made people nervous, because of his intense sex appeal. Such people really steal all attention when they enter a room. That is magnetism. Scarlett Johansson is not magnetic she really is not. I don't think her features are balanced either. Either I'm just totally blind to her supposed beauty, or I am right and she is just an overhyped average looking girl.

Blake Lively though, she got magnetism. It is not so extreme, but it is definitely there. She got that invincibility, that plutonic self-confidence. And I was so shocked, and a little disappointed, when I found out that she had surgery and stuff. She doesn't look vain. But she got sex appeal.

Ingrid Bergman stayed natural her entire life. She appeared in TV even when she was ill and was not-so beautiful anymore. It breaks my heart to see Ingrid Bergman when she is old. She really looked old in the end, like a grandmother. From that beautiful, young, energetic girl to that old woman.
 

Animatrix

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Do you watch a lot of her movies? You are not from her generation so did you grow up watching her movies?

No I haven't watched her movies I found out about her when I saw the documentary that was on TV in my country some time ago and I instantly fell in love with her. I have watched clips of her movies though, and I am gonna see Casablanca with my mother soon.
 

Sunset

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It counts if you were born after sun rise . I have a niece(cousin's daughter), if you ever saw her dance. She's such a good dancer it's ridiculous. She can put older women to shame. She has mars-lilith and I believe she may have sun-lilith aspects as well.

Well it has been just before sun rise, the sun rose at 7:38 am. So in that case the Lilith is less influential? How do I interpret this?
 

love-thinking

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Do you think Ryan Gosling is more attractive than Brad Pitt?
Brad Pitt in his prime:
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I agree with you perhaps it is doubtful if Elizabeth taylor's appeal can be explained by a bi-quintile to her ascendant from Pluto - that would be far-fetched and unfair. But yeah you must be right about that Moon thing. Because Elizabeth Taylor is plutonic, definitely. She really looks like a plutonic queen.

I am a little skeptical against those "sex symbols" pushed forth my the mainstream media. Sex symbols are very rare, I have come across a handful in my life, and I have met a lot of people. Most "hot men/women" are really average, but they get this stardom and are constantly talked about in newspapers as if they are icons of beauty. Scarlett Johansson is such a woman. I just don't think she is the kind of a woman that can intimidate guys with her looks. She is hot, that's it, in my opinion. People were mesmerized by Ingrid Bergman, Grace Kelly etc. Same with men. Just look at women interviewing Brad Pitt. Now I have always thought Brad Pitt looks good on pictures, but his mannerisms and voice is so disturbing to me, but only I seem to think that. But when he is interviewed, you can see that the women are really intimidated and nervous when talking to him. Same with Flynn, he was intimidating, and made people nervous, because of his intense sex appeal. Such people really steal all attention when they enter a room. That is magnetism. Scarlett Johansson is not magnetic she really is not. I don't think her features are balanced either. Either I'm just totally blind to her supposed beauty, or I am right and she is just an overhyped average looking girl.

Blake Lively though, she got magnetism. It is not so extreme, but it is definitely there. She got that invincibility, that plutonic self-confidence. And I was so shocked, and a little disappointed, when I found out that she had surgery and stuff. She doesn't look vain. But she got sex appeal.

Ingrid Bergman stayed natural her entire life. She appeared in TV even when she was ill and was not-so beautiful anymore. It breaks my heart to see Ingrid Bergman when she is old. She really looked old in the end, like a grandmother. From that beautiful, young, energetic girl to that old woman.

You're right about blake. She has ascendent square pluto at 7 degrees.

About ingrid, that's life I suppose. She looked like she was a good mother in those pictures. Like she was super protective about her kids like the typical "plutonic mother."

Honestly, I think I really like Ryan Gosling because I've watched him more. I like his looks more too but that's probably because he's not all dark, there's a playfulness to him. But he can also be intense because of his sun in scorpio. He has a pisces ascendent. I think it's more so he seems like the type of guy that will be able to chase a girl but also make her laugh while doing it instead of coming off as a creep but also be super passionate in bed like he will never let you go. It's really a fantasy honestly. Of course I don't know how he is in real life.
 

Animatrix

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Well it has been just before sun rise, the sun rose at 7:38 am. So in that case the Lilith is less influential? How do I interpret this?

What really is Lilith? Seriously I can't find any in depth information on the internet.

By the way Venus is sextile your MC too, so you could harvest some success in a creative field. If you like dancing you could succeed in this.

Pisces always got some special talent.
 

Animatrix

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You're right about blake. She has ascendent square pluto at 7 degrees.

About ingrid, that's life I suppose. She looked like she was a good mother in those pictures. Like she was super protective about her kids like the typical "plutonic mother."

Honestly, I think I really like Ryan Gosling because I've watched him more. I like his looks more too but that's probably because he's not all dark, there's a playfulness to him. But he can also be intense because of his sun in scorpio. He has a pisces ascendent. I think it's more so he seems like the type of guy that will be able to chase a girl but also make her laugh while doing it instead of coming off as a creep but also be super passionate in bed like he will never let you go. It's really a fantasy honestly. Of course I don't know how he is in real life.

Ryan Gosling seems like a good guy, but one can never know with Scorpios, hah!

Ingrid Bergman was a good mother, she was away working a lot on her films, living the star-life, but if you listen to her children's stories, they have no bitterness, but only love and admiration for her. She took a break from Hollywood life when her kid got sick so. She was a good mother and her children loved her, but, they wanted more of her. That's what they said in the documentary.

I know it's life but it's so sad that everything must come to an end! It's so painful to see, and especially in one of her last roles, when she plays this utterly miserable failed mother, she is so miserable in that role!!! It hurts in my heart, because she was such an adorable woman when young, so full of life and vitality. But we all were - at one point. But Ingrid Bergman is the only celebrity I have felt affection for, honestly, it may sound strange (I'm not obsessed! I would never stalk anyone) and then to see her entire career in a 2 hour long documentary, and fall in love during the first minute, and to see her almost dead in the end of it, that is pain!

But do you think Brad Pitt comes across as too intense, in that picture I posted? Do you find him creepy? That stare? What about Errol Flynn?
 

Sunset

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What really is Lilith? Seriously I can't find any in depth information on the internet.

By the way Venus is sextile your MC too, so you could harvest some success in a creative field. If you like dancing you could succeed in this.

Pisces always got some special talent.

I have two books about Lilith but they are both in dutch. The information on the internet is a bit different than the books, more superficial and sensation oriented. This website's information I feel I can somewhat relate to: http://the-tarot.com/lilith-in-a-first-house/. But it doesn't capture the understanding from the books. But maybe my Lilith is not as important after all :unsure:

I find it hard to tell the difference from Pluto when you want to describe the effect on the psychical appearance. But for me Lilith represents an inner strength, a pure energy, something that couldn’t be influenced by the parents or social convention. But because of the refusal to be influenced or to adapt the social accepted rules, adults have tried to suppress the energy in order to force the adaption. This is where the dark side comes from, the anger from not being accepted and being forced into adaption. But once someone is able to come to terms with this feeling, someone can tap into this energy once again. And from that moment Lilith can bring a more pure energy to the area it aspects.
 

Animatrix

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I have two books about Lilith but they are both in dutch. The information on the internet is a bit different than the books, more superficial and sensation oriented. This website's information I feel I can somewhat relate to: http://the-tarot.com/lilith-in-a-first-house/. But it doesn't capture the understanding from the books. But maybe my Lilith is not as important after all :unsure:

I find it hard to tell the difference from Pluto when you want to describe the effect on the psychical appearance. But for me Lilith represents an inner strength, a pure energy, something that couldn’t be influenced by the parents or social convention. But because of the refusal to be influenced or to adapt the social accepted rules, adults have tried to suppress the energy in order to force the adaption. This is where the dark side comes from, the anger from not being accepted and being forced into adaption. But once someone is able to come to terms with this feeling, someone can tap into this energy once again. And from that moment Lilith can bring a more pure energy to the area it aspects.

What would Lilith retrograde in the ninth house mean?

Well, regardless of how important Lilith may be, Pluto is way more significant. In fact Pluto represents the most powerful things. Have you read anything about Sun trine Pluto aspect?
 

love-thinking

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Ryan Gosling seems like a good guy, but one can never know with Scorpios, hah!

Ingrid Bergman was a good mother, she was away working a lot on her films, living the star-life, but if you listen to her children's stories, they have no bitterness, but only love and admiration for her. She took a break from Hollywood life when her kid got sick so. She was a good mother and her children loved her, but, they wanted more of her. That's what they said in the documentary.

I know it's life but it's so sad that everything must come to an end! It's so painful to see, and especially in one of her last roles, when she plays this utterly miserable failed mother, she is so miserable in that role!!! It hurts in my heart, because she was such an adorable woman when young, so full of life and vitality. But we all were - at one point. But Ingrid Bergman is the only celebrity I have felt affection for, honestly, it may sound strange (I'm not obsessed! I would never stalk anyone) and then to see her entire career in a 2 hour long documentary, and fall in love during the first minute, and to see her almost dead in the end of it, that is pain!

But do you think Brad Pitt comes across as too intense, in that picture I posted? Do you find him creepy? That stare? What about Errol Flynn?

I think it's more about the fusing of two or multiple energies is more important than one thing. I can't deny that Bradd Pitt is attractive because he definitely is.

He also has uranus and jupiter aspecting his sagitarius ascendent so although his eyes can give off some intensity, he doesn't really have the passion vibe or look. I don't know how to explain it, his fusion of energies really doesn't do it for me like ryan gosling's. Bradd Pitt also seems very mainstream, classic.

I'm attracted to an anarchist type of vibe in a man which I don't know how to explain it.

But you have to realize attraction sometimes can be subjective as well. I like ryan because he has mars square ascendent and a pisces ascendent.

-My descendent is aries, and my mars is conjunct neptune. Men like him would be my absolute ideal not to mention his scorpio sun would further intensify my sexual attraction towards him. Makes sense?
 

UraSatVen1029

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I have two books about Lilith but they are both in dutch. The information on the internet is a bit different than the books, more superficial and sensation oriented. This website's information I feel I can somewhat relate to: http://the-tarot.com/lilith-in-a-first-house/. But it doesn't capture the understanding from the books. But maybe my Lilith is not as important after all :unsure:

I find it hard to tell the difference from Pluto when you want to describe the effect on the psychical appearance. But for me Lilith represents an inner strength, a pure energy, something that couldn’t be influenced by the parents or social convention. But because of the refusal to be influenced or to adapt the social accepted rules, adults have tried to suppress the energy in order to force the adaption. This is where the dark side comes from, the anger from not being accepted and being forced into adaption. But once someone is able to come to terms with this feeling, someone can tap into this energy once again. And from that moment Lilith can bring a more pure energy to the area it aspects.

Someone did a chart reading for me here privately about the possible suited careers I could get and they mentioned that Lilith also plays a big part on my talents. I have Lilith very tightly conjunct my Sun and Venus all in the 10th house. They explained that besides the dark and somewhat femme fatale description of Lilith, it could also represent a great amount of energy being focused/emphasized in that area. But it may have been suppressed by many factors and this is supposedly one area that no one else should touch. I believe this could be a manifestation of passion! Like you said, once they're in good terms with it, the talent or energy could really shine.

my sis has Lilith-Mars too. And yes, she loves to dance. On the other hand, I'm incredibly expressive and really let myself go with music and singing. What we both have in common is passion for what we love doing. So inner strength and pure energy sounds about right.

Lilith when prominently placed can project raw energy/sexuality... this sounds similar to a Pluto influence. So maybe in a way, Lilith can contribute a little to magnetism? But obviously Pluto is better in that department. In what I've read about my Lilith placement, it's also a good placement for performers-- because the Lilith raw energy/sexuality is expressed publicly (10th house) and can draw in an audience. To have it in the 1st house could have a similar effect.
 

Animatrix

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I think it's more about the fusing of two or multiple energies is more important than one thing. I can't deny that Bradd Pitt is attractive because he definitely is.

He also has uranus and jupiter aspecting his sagitarius ascendent so although his eyes can give off some intensity, he doesn't really have the passion vibe or look. I don't know how to explain it, his fusion of energies really doesn't do it for me like ryan gosling's. Bradd Pitt also seems very mainstream, classic.

I'm attracted to an anarchist type of vibe in a man which I don't know how to explain it.

But you have to realize attraction sometimes can be subjective as well. I like ryan because he has mars square ascendent and a pisces ascendent.

-My descendent is aries, and my mars is conjunct neptune. Men like him would be my absolute ideal not to mention his scorpio sun would further intensify my sexual attraction towards him. Makes sense?

But would you get nervous and giggly if you met Ryan? Is he so attractive to you that you literally can't your eyes off of him?

And what do you think of Mr. Flynn? Very curious to hear your opinion. Because I think Errol Flynn and Brad Pitt got the same type of charm, it's that I-can't-explain-it but Ingrid Bergman got it too, in a female form, and she got loads and loads of it!
 

Animatrix

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Someone did a chart reading for me here privately about the possible suited careers I could get and they mentioned that Lilith also plays a big part on my talents. I have Lilith very tightly conjunct my Sun and Venus all in the 10th house. They explained that besides the dark and somewhat femme fatale description of Lilith, it could also represent a great amount of energy being focused/emphasized in that area. But it may have been suppressed by many factors and this is supposedly one area that no one else should touch. I believe this could be a manifestation of passion! Like you said, once they're in good terms with it, the talent or energy could really shine.

my sis has Lilith-Mars too. And yes, she loves to dance. On the other hand, I'm incredibly expressive and really let myself go with music and singing. What we both have in common is passion for what we love doing. So inner strength and pure energy sounds about right.

Lilith when prominently placed can project raw energy/sexuality... this sounds similar to a Pluto influence. So maybe in a way, Lilith can contribute a little to magnetism? But obviously Pluto is better in that department. In what I've read about my Lilith placement, it's also a good placement for performers-- because the Lilith raw energy/sexuality is expressed publicly (10th house) and can draw in an audience. To have it in the 1st house could have a similar effect.

I wonder what aspects makes people wanna help someone? I mean, I have always attracted help - from adults and older people. Men, women, old people, who have wanted to help me, even people in state authorities, who have given me much help even when I did not really deserve it. I have always attracted help on my journey through life and I wonder what in my chart may give this.

I got my home, and my jobs, and my knowledge by the help of somebody else. It feels ****** to be honest because I have never worked hard my entire life - and now I am up to a great challenge and I am about give up before I even started. What a lazy dreamer I am!
 
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