My confusingTransit Chart & Scorpio's music career?
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BobZemco
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What exactly is confusing about it?
Your 5th House (Creative Endeavors) and 9th House (Media) is ruled by Jupiter.
Natal Jupiter is posited in your 2nd House.
Transiting Jupiter is Retrograde entering the 8th House. The 8th House is the end of all 5th House Matters.
Jupiter will slow up as he gets ready to go Direct here in about 2 1/2 weeks or so. When he does, he will square Natal Neptune in your 5th House.
Contrary to the popular belief of the "squares are scary" crowd, this is something very positive for you, because squares represent dynamic action, turning points, accomplishments and change of destiny. There is Reception here, because Jupiter will receive Neptune in Sagittarius, and that makes this square a positive thing.
Now some might say there is Mutual Reception because Neptune rules Pisces, but that's really quite silly. Neptune is the upper octave of Venus and since Venus will always choose Taurus over Libra, Neptune is the real ruler/co-ruler of Libra. Anyway whatever affects Venus affects Neptune.
So if we look at Venus, she is Direct, Angular, though actually in the 5th House (anything with 5° of a Cusp is in the next House), and she is Occidental (her favorite place). Sun is Below Horizon so this is a Night Chart and Venus is Below Horizon, in a Feminize Sign and Feminine House, so I'm fairly sure she's in Hayz, which is a form of Accidental Dignity. All those things, being Direct, Succedent, Occidental, in Hayz, etc help offset the fact that Venus is in Detriment in Scorpio.
The Dispositor of Venus, Mars is Angular in the 1st House and squares the Sun. This is very positive square, because Mars and Sun are in Mutual Reception (Sun rules Leo and Scorpio is the most favorite Sign of Mars). Mars in 1st square Sun in 4th (a House of Endings) you're probably the kind of person that sets out to do something, and finishes the task. Mars will give you the energy to do that. So Mars is in good shape and that helps Venus and that helps Neptune.
You also have a Mercury/Jupiter square natally. That is another very positive thing because there's Mutual Reception between Jupiter in Detriment in Virgo and Mercury in Detriment in Sagittarius.
For any kind of fame, you need one of the Lights Angular, and you have Sun in the 4th House, so you at least have a chance to be recognized by your peers or employers or other groups for the things you accomplish. Of course, you might only receive local acclaim, but that's better than none for a lot of people.
You also had/have transiting Mercury/Mars in the 5th House trine with Natal Mars.
Really your best bet would be Primary Directions. I can't tell your age because you cut off the date, when/if you are about 24-25 some good things will/should have happen(ed) to you because your Directed Ascendant will conjunct Natal Jupiter and then immediately conjunct the North Node. I prefer the mean Nodes instead of the true Nodes.
Natal Moon in Aries, not exactly peachy because Aries is Cadent to Taurus, the Moon's House of Exaltation, but Moon is trine Mars and we already know how cool Mars is and then Mars receives Moon by Rulership, so Moon is okay.
So you're wrapping up your compact disc thing and that's probably Jupiter Retrograde moving into the 8th, then Jupiter goes Direct and cruises back into the Media House and he'll catch Uranus. Uranus is the upper octave of Mercury. Mercury, well, he's quite goofy actually, or I should say 'it' is quite goofy since Mercury (and Uranus) are neuter. Mercury can't figure out which House, Gemini or Virgo he (it) likes best. Like many astrologers are starting to conclude, I consider Uranus to rule Virgo, which just happens to sit on your 3rd House Cusp.
Jupiter and Uranus move kind of slow. Jupiter spends a year in each House and Uranus about 8 years in each House. Both will trine Mercury as soon as they enter Aries, and then they'll move to trine Mars, but that won't happen for at least 10 months or so. If you're going to be making music CDs, the best time would be the 8 years Uranus spends playing around in your 9th House.
Your 5th House (Creative Endeavors) and 9th House (Media) is ruled by Jupiter.
Natal Jupiter is posited in your 2nd House.
Transiting Jupiter is Retrograde entering the 8th House. The 8th House is the end of all 5th House Matters.
Jupiter will slow up as he gets ready to go Direct here in about 2 1/2 weeks or so. When he does, he will square Natal Neptune in your 5th House.
Contrary to the popular belief of the "squares are scary" crowd, this is something very positive for you, because squares represent dynamic action, turning points, accomplishments and change of destiny. There is Reception here, because Jupiter will receive Neptune in Sagittarius, and that makes this square a positive thing.
Now some might say there is Mutual Reception because Neptune rules Pisces, but that's really quite silly. Neptune is the upper octave of Venus and since Venus will always choose Taurus over Libra, Neptune is the real ruler/co-ruler of Libra. Anyway whatever affects Venus affects Neptune.
So if we look at Venus, she is Direct, Angular, though actually in the 5th House (anything with 5° of a Cusp is in the next House), and she is Occidental (her favorite place). Sun is Below Horizon so this is a Night Chart and Venus is Below Horizon, in a Feminize Sign and Feminine House, so I'm fairly sure she's in Hayz, which is a form of Accidental Dignity. All those things, being Direct, Succedent, Occidental, in Hayz, etc help offset the fact that Venus is in Detriment in Scorpio.
The Dispositor of Venus, Mars is Angular in the 1st House and squares the Sun. This is very positive square, because Mars and Sun are in Mutual Reception (Sun rules Leo and Scorpio is the most favorite Sign of Mars). Mars in 1st square Sun in 4th (a House of Endings) you're probably the kind of person that sets out to do something, and finishes the task. Mars will give you the energy to do that. So Mars is in good shape and that helps Venus and that helps Neptune.
You also have a Mercury/Jupiter square natally. That is another very positive thing because there's Mutual Reception between Jupiter in Detriment in Virgo and Mercury in Detriment in Sagittarius.
For any kind of fame, you need one of the Lights Angular, and you have Sun in the 4th House, so you at least have a chance to be recognized by your peers or employers or other groups for the things you accomplish. Of course, you might only receive local acclaim, but that's better than none for a lot of people.
You also had/have transiting Mercury/Mars in the 5th House trine with Natal Mars.
Really your best bet would be Primary Directions. I can't tell your age because you cut off the date, when/if you are about 24-25 some good things will/should have happen(ed) to you because your Directed Ascendant will conjunct Natal Jupiter and then immediately conjunct the North Node. I prefer the mean Nodes instead of the true Nodes.
Natal Moon in Aries, not exactly peachy because Aries is Cadent to Taurus, the Moon's House of Exaltation, but Moon is trine Mars and we already know how cool Mars is and then Mars receives Moon by Rulership, so Moon is okay.
So you're wrapping up your compact disc thing and that's probably Jupiter Retrograde moving into the 8th, then Jupiter goes Direct and cruises back into the Media House and he'll catch Uranus. Uranus is the upper octave of Mercury. Mercury, well, he's quite goofy actually, or I should say 'it' is quite goofy since Mercury (and Uranus) are neuter. Mercury can't figure out which House, Gemini or Virgo he (it) likes best. Like many astrologers are starting to conclude, I consider Uranus to rule Virgo, which just happens to sit on your 3rd House Cusp.
Jupiter and Uranus move kind of slow. Jupiter spends a year in each House and Uranus about 8 years in each House. Both will trine Mercury as soon as they enter Aries, and then they'll move to trine Mars, but that won't happen for at least 10 months or so. If you're going to be making music CDs, the best time would be the 8 years Uranus spends playing around in your 9th House.
what's confusing is, this is the first time I have ever looked at a transit chart, so it's the same feeling someone gets when they hear another language for the first time that they don't speak. Any time a subject or concept that someone has made up in order to communicate an idea of God's you are unfamiliar with their method for making sense of it - so that is where thing become confusing because there are different methods for interpreting the structure of Life, and if you haven't studied a particular method, and you aren't able to pull forth a conscious piece of the creator of all things into your human perception, then you need to study/learn more about the method that has been created to interpret the structure of Life. Without the study/practice it can be confusing, because you haven't caught on yet to how it is being done. I am familiar with planets, and symbolism, but this is the first time I looked at a transit chart....
thank you for taking the time to give me more information, this is what helps get rid of confusion. Because you feel like you know more of where to begin with understanding the method being used. I am going to read over your post and digest it. Thank you for taking the time, I really appreciate it.
thank you for taking the time to give me more information, this is what helps get rid of confusion. Because you feel like you know more of where to begin with understanding the method being used. I am going to read over your post and digest it. Thank you for taking the time, I really appreciate it.
Ok Bob, I can tell you really know your stuff here - have mastered this astrology is easy for you 
There are some terms I am not familiar with what they represent....but by what you wrote I at least have some terms I can google and find more info about. I am sending good karma thoughts to you. I am going to look into these light angulars, and I wanted to figure out when uranus is going to be in my 9th house
here's all the things I highlighted from what you wrote:
"2 1/2 weeks or so. When he does, he will square Natal Neptune in your 5th House."
"Sun is Below Horizon so this is a Night Chart and Venus is Below Horizon, in a Feminize Sign and Feminine House, "
"you're probably the kind of person that sets out to do something, and finishes the task. Mars will give you the energy to do that. So Mars is in good shape and that helps Venus and that helps Neptune."
"For any kind of fame, you need one of the Lights Angular, and you have Sun in the 4th House, so you at least have a chance to be recognized by your peers or employers or other groups for the things you accomplish."
"If you're going to be making music CDs, the best time would be the 8 years Uranus spends playing around in your 9th House."
There are some terms I am not familiar with what they represent....but by what you wrote I at least have some terms I can google and find more info about. I am sending good karma thoughts to you. I am going to look into these light angulars, and I wanted to figure out when uranus is going to be in my 9th house here's all the things I highlighted from what you wrote:
"2 1/2 weeks or so. When he does, he will square Natal Neptune in your 5th House."
"Sun is Below Horizon so this is a Night Chart and Venus is Below Horizon, in a Feminize Sign and Feminine House, "
"you're probably the kind of person that sets out to do something, and finishes the task. Mars will give you the energy to do that. So Mars is in good shape and that helps Venus and that helps Neptune."
"For any kind of fame, you need one of the Lights Angular, and you have Sun in the 4th House, so you at least have a chance to be recognized by your peers or employers or other groups for the things you accomplish."
"If you're going to be making music CDs, the best time would be the 8 years Uranus spends playing around in your 9th House."
Claire19
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If you could post your progressions as well as the transits it would help.
However the ruler of your 10th house of career is Mars in Leo which indicates the drive to perform. It is conjuncting Neptune by transit in the house of performing arts and creative expression, the 5th. There is a natal good aspect between these two planets. Neptune in Sagittarius can mean foreign influences such as performing abroad or writing songs that are distributed. Jupiter in the 2nd Virgo for earning income through personal talents is not well aspected and the north node there suggests that you must pay attention to the everyday needs of life this time around....earning own income and being practical. I think your personal monies will be strained and you must not have over expectations of gains with that Jupiter squaring Mercury and Venus. There can be family involvement with that and
I think you must be careful about what you spend.
Saturn ruling your 6th house of employment and in 3rd house indicates that you do better with writing or editing as it sextiles Venus the planet of artistry and harmony as well as finances.... Your Mars in Leo is in a wide and weake trine to Moon in Aries in the 9th so again publishing is indicated.......as well as foreign contacts. The Moon is in good aspect to Neptune in your 5th house of performing arts and entertainments and again I see publishing and foreign travel involved.....Sometimes it indicates living abroad as well. There is a trine to Mercury in the 5th indicative of writing, communications and short trips around the local neighbourhood.....it is weak though......However I think you will have to do a more mundane and practical job for your everyday needs and the music may be a part time thing as I dont see a huge worldwide career with this. But follow your dreams........you have several planets transitting your 5th of creativity and ego expression and the performing arts which are kicking off your wish to perform.
Good luck.
However the ruler of your 10th house of career is Mars in Leo which indicates the drive to perform. It is conjuncting Neptune by transit in the house of performing arts and creative expression, the 5th. There is a natal good aspect between these two planets. Neptune in Sagittarius can mean foreign influences such as performing abroad or writing songs that are distributed. Jupiter in the 2nd Virgo for earning income through personal talents is not well aspected and the north node there suggests that you must pay attention to the everyday needs of life this time around....earning own income and being practical. I think your personal monies will be strained and you must not have over expectations of gains with that Jupiter squaring Mercury and Venus. There can be family involvement with that and
I think you must be careful about what you spend.
Saturn ruling your 6th house of employment and in 3rd house indicates that you do better with writing or editing as it sextiles Venus the planet of artistry and harmony as well as finances.... Your Mars in Leo is in a wide and weake trine to Moon in Aries in the 9th so again publishing is indicated.......as well as foreign contacts. The Moon is in good aspect to Neptune in your 5th house of performing arts and entertainments and again I see publishing and foreign travel involved.....Sometimes it indicates living abroad as well. There is a trine to Mercury in the 5th indicative of writing, communications and short trips around the local neighbourhood.....it is weak though......However I think you will have to do a more mundane and practical job for your everyday needs and the music may be a part time thing as I dont see a huge worldwide career with this. But follow your dreams........you have several planets transitting your 5th of creativity and ego expression and the performing arts which are kicking off your wish to perform.
Good luck.
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Hello beautiful spirit Claire! Thank you from my heart for taking the time to interpret my chart, I am going to see if I can get a free chart online somewhere of my progressions. Your interpretation was extremely helpful to me, as I am also a writer. I have been kind of ghost writing for this women to help her with her dream for a year or so. I also have two blogs that I write entries for regularly. Music is something I have always loved doing, but I am also involved with many writing projects - I live in Los Angeles and grew up in MN, and have wanted to travel abroad since I was very little kid. So your news of this being a possibility in my near future really makes me happy!!!! I have been struggling along for awhile, I don't want fame, but I do want to feel like the hard working I am putting in, is moving forward so I can feel like it is worth the energy is making progress. I hope that at least my chart reflects progress, if not with my music, at least somewhere, so I can not struggle so hard to make ends meet. i am a hard worker but it has been difficult finding opportunities that compensate me enough. Right now it is a ton of freelance smaller projects, where I end up giving the clients WAAAAAYYY more of my creativity, ideas, imput, and writing for next to nothing - just because i need the work. At least the freelance has given me some sense of freedom though, to work on music, and also focus on my spirituality - which has been what I have focused on the most the last several years. I do not regret my huge focus on spirituality, because I have less fear about what happens after death, but as I was focusing this way, I put many material/money making things on hold. Now that I feel confident in my spiritual understanding, I am ready to be more involved to go back into the world - like a monk coming down from the mountains or something - back into the village lol
HUGE KARMA ENERGY TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!
PEACE BLESSINGS
HUGE KARMA ENERGY TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!
PEACE BLESSINGS
astrologer50
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Oh actually, I don't know if it makes a difference but this a progressive chart using Dec instead of October - cause i am more wondering near future instead of present moment
Thanks Claire you are an astrology angel
these last 2 charts can be posted as a tri wheel rather than separately.....
You have a 'kite' shape chart which is considered lucky with moon as Apex.
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/11.1TopOrBottom.htm
Your progressed mars is now conjunct natal juptier, giving confidence, impetus to earn money.
Your pluto is a singleton
Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression.
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm
Lack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm
Your mercury is well aspected perhaps for square to jupiter and this just suggests that at times your overtalk when you should be quiet and undertalk when you should be talking on occasions. Venus/mercury bodes well for articulation of communications and music
Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.
Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm
Money & you
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/money_and_you.php
http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/astrology_of_money_wealth.html
career significators
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html
Professional & Destiny
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/astrology_professional_destiny.php
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html
BobZemco
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Well, that isn't going to happen because I notice you did set the transit chart for a date after Jupiter already goes Direct. I checked the ephemeris and Jupiter will go Stationary right at 23°Pisces 29', so I messed that up and it won't actually make the square with Natal Neptune. We actually have a name for that when a Planet changes direction before making an aspect: "Refranation." Some people refer to it as "Frustration" which is actually more descriptive."
That doesn't mean nothing won't happen. Something definitely will happen because Jupiter is gong to stop dead opposite your Natal Saturn almost to the minute and both of them will play "Rock, Paper, Scissors" for about 2 days.
Since there's no Reception and Jupiter doesn't particular like Virgo and because the two Planets are of different natures, there'll be a bit of a conflict here. You'll have to make some decisions, which I suspect would be related the 6th, 7th and 8th Houses ruled by Saturn. This opposition will be in orb for about 5 days. You might actually feel getting pulled to and fro. Jupiter likes to expand things, which can be good, but not always, and Saturn likes to restrict things, which can be bad or good too.
You might need someone's help with your project, getting it out the door or somewhere else or something. That's what the 8th House is, other people's resources, including the resources of your other and your partner(s) who maybe collaborated with you. That might be one of the decisions you'll have to make.
I can't believe I spelled Feminine wrong. Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars are Nocturnal Planets. They like the night. Sun (obviously), Jupiter and Saturn like the Day. Moon and Venus are Feminine Planets, they operate better when they are in Feminine Houses and Signs. It's a minor form of Accidental Dignity when they are in their proper Sect. If they aren't in those Signs/Houses, it isn't a big deal. The guys like the Masculine Signs/Houses but if they aren't in them they aren't harmed either. In a Day Chart Saturn would prefer to be in the 11th House in Libra or Aquarius or any other Masculine Sign.
The condition of the Dispositors affects the Planets in their Houses. Mars is the Dispositor of Venus because Mars rules Scorpion and Venus is a guest in his House. If Mars were in Cancer, then Venus would be about useless.
Not all Planets will have a Dispositor. If Saturn is in Capricorn, then he's his own boss and doesn't have a Dispositor.
It's just how the charts work.
The US has 300 Million people and how many are famous? All those athletes, entertainers, musicians, authors, politicians, business leaders, military leaders, scientists and academicians and that's not even 1 Million people. That's 0.3% which isn't even one-half of 1%.
Sun and Moon only rule one house each, and they have no Terms, which means the odds are a person will have a Peregrine Sun, Peregrine Moon or both. The Sun, Moon or both need to be in the 1st, 10th, 7th or 4th House for any kind of real fame or popularity. There has to be other indicators in the chart as well.
I'm sure someone will point out that Bill Clinton didn't have Sun and Moon in the Angles and he became president. And that is correct, but his Sun wasn't Peregrine and neither was his Moon. Plus, he had 3 of the 5 Royal Stars: Jupiter conjunct Spica, Saturn conjunct Sirius, and the big one, Sun conjunct Regulus (and Sun in Leo in the 11th House is in Hayz).
You could see from his chart he was pretty much destined to be president.
You see that a lot. I learned to do synastry charts for musical groups (which is far more interesting than doing them for people). I was curious to know why all of my favorite bands were still around and these newer bands can barely lay the tracks for their first CD and they've already split.
The answer to that lies in the generational differences (the location of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto in the Signs) for the age groups, and then also with the actual synastry of the group.
Someone like Robb Thomas from Matchbox 20, he had Jupiter transiting his (Pisces) 9th House and then, naturally, Uranus transiting his 7th House when they get together and then they, I don't know stopped or whatever, and then again his career kick-starts when Uranus starts transiting his 9th House.