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Unread 03-12-2019, 12:36 PM
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Hello dears!

Please, I have a hard time finding which birth chart is mine

Mom said I was born around 17h41 ( chart 1: Leo 29) but I don't think I have mars in 7th house, I am a very peaceful & sweet with others (never act aggressively) also i don't think I have venus in my 6th house: I'm not very lucky in my jobs though I'm a very hard working person..
( chart 2: Leo 19) describes me better when it comes to personality traits but I'm not professional astrologer I don't have much expertise to tell ..) I used Nikola's degree theory ( 19 = LIBRA) and since I feel I have some Libra traits I thought this chart might be the real one...
I'm not sure you can get Libra traits only if the ruler of your first house is in your seventh ( which is already the case ...)

You can ask me any question to help me solve this puzzle!

Thanks in advance
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Hello Illusional,

you indicate that you would be born at 16h54mn or 17h41mn. Can you tell me a bit more about your birth time (registration on the birth certificate, what did your mother tell you specifically, or any other person, etc ...)?

Can you choose between a) or b)?
1) Would you say that you agree ...
a) ... in your ideas
b) ... in what you want
... while uniting with each other?
2) Do you think you are listening ...
a) ... in the relationship with the other
b) ... in what you do
... while wanting to improve your aspirations?
3) Would you say that you are communicating with ...
a) ... what you aspire to
b) ... what you like
... while wanting to achieve what you want? We are interested in you for that.

Can you indicate the periods that were significant (year and month) and their nature if possible?
If it bothers you, you can do it by private message.
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Re: Help me rectify which birth chart of both is mine ?

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Hello Illusional,

you indicate that you would be born at 16h54mn or 17h41mn. Can you tell me a bit more about your birth time (registration on the birth certificate, what did your mother tell you specifically, or any other person, etc ...)?
time as registered on medical records is a good place to begin

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Can you choose between a) or b)?
1) Would you say that you agree ...
a) ... in your ideas
b) ... in what you want
... while uniting with each other?
2) Do you think you are listening ...
a) ... in the relationship with the other
b) ... in what you do
... while wanting to improve your aspirations?
3) Would you say that you are communicating with ...
a) ... what you aspire to
b) ... what you like
... while wanting to achieve what you want? We are interested in you for that.

Can you indicate the periods that were significant (year and month) and their nature if possible?
If it bothers you, you can do it by private message.
Ecliptique.
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Unread 03-19-2019, 10:02 PM
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Hello dears!

Please, I have a hard time finding which birth chart is mine

Mom said I was born around 17h41 ( chart 1: Leo 29) but I don't think I have mars in 7th house, I am a very peaceful & sweet with others (never act aggressively) also i don't think I have venus in my 6th house: I'm not very lucky in my jobs though I'm a very hard working person..
Venus does not necessarily mean luck with jobs

entire chart as a whole requires consideration



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( chart 2: Leo 19) describes me better when it comes to personality traits but I'm not professional astrologer I don't have much expertise to tell ..) I used Nikola's degree theory ( 19 = LIBRA) and since I feel I have some Libra traits I thought this chart might be the real one...
I'm not sure you can get Libra traits only if the ruler of your first house is in your seventh ( which is already the case ...)

You can ask me any question to help me solve this puzzle!

Thanks in advance
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Unread 03-19-2019, 10:34 PM
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JUPITERASC, I think it is important to bring all the information on the birth and in particular to mention the time of the medical certificate or civil status that must be obtained. By intellectual honesty, I would say that any amateur astrologer and even more a professional must show all this information during a correction (or indicate that there is no time indicated during registration).

I totally agree with Venus.



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JUPITERASC, I think it is important to bring all the information on the birth

and in particular to mention the time of the medical certificate
or civil status that must be obtained.

By intellectual honesty, I would say that any amateur astrologer
and even more a professional
must show all this information during a correction
(or indicate that there is no time indicated during registration).

Agreed - intellectual honesty is crucial

The main thing that distinguishes horoscopic astrology from other forms of astrology
is the use of the ascendant
and other points that are derived from the ascendant.


Originally the Greek term hōroskopos, from which our terms “horoscope”
and “horoscopic” are derived
was simply a technical term
that was used to refer to the “ascendant” in an astrological chart.
Hōroskopos literally means “hour-marker,”
and in Hellenistic astrology the term was used to refer to the ascendant
and to the first house in a chart.
http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2...pic-astrology/


and so

determining reliability of time of birth is step one
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I totally agree with Venus.

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JUPITERASC, thanks for the links, I have not read everything yet.
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Re: Help me rectify which birth chart of both is mine ?

Can you choose between a) or b)?
1) Would you say that you agree ...
a) ... in your ideas
b) ... in what you want
... while uniting with each other?
2) Do you think you are listening ...
a) ... in the relationship with the other
b) ... in what you do
... while wanting to improve your aspirations?
3) Would you say that you are communicating with ...
a) ... what you aspire to
b) ... what you like
... while wanting to achieve what you want? We are interested in you for that.

Can you indicate the periods that were significant (year and month) and their nature if possible?
Nothing significant happened in my life apart from the fact that I had a fatal car accident with my friend in April 8th 2011 but we had nothing but very small injuries though the car was completely demolished..
For the birth time, by then they did not record the birth time mn my birth certificate
Oh yes on July 6th 2016 something very special happened to me spiritually and religiously speaking...
Also, I was born Sunni Muslim and I changed my confession to Quranist Muslim in 2013 ( that's the same as Protestants and Catholics) if you want..

Thanks for your reply & efforts

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Can you choose between a) or b)?
1) Would you say that you agree ...
a) ... in your ideas
b) ... in what you want
... while uniting with each other?
2) Do you think you are listening ...
a) ... in the relationship with the other
b) ... in what you do
... while wanting to improve your aspirations?
3) Would you say that you are communicating with ...
a) ... what you aspire to
b) ... what you like
... while wanting to achieve what you want? We are interested in you for that.

Can you indicate the periods that were significant (year and month) and their nature if possible?
Nothing significant happened in my life apart from the fact that I had a fatal car accident with my friend in April 8th 2011 but we had nothing but very small injuries though the car was completely demolished..
For the birth time, by then they did not record the birth time mn my birth certificate
Oh yes on July 6th 2016 something very special happened to me spiritually and religiously speaking...
Also, I was born Sunni Muslim and I changed my confession to Quranist Muslim in 2013 ( that's the same as Protestants and Catholics) if you want..

Thanks for your reply & efforts
Perhaps there were no fatalities, that no one died

but there were just minor injuries
but

except perhaps the occupants of the other car died

need clarification
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Hello Illusional,

excellent answer for your choices. I come back to you.
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can you describe to me how you lived things during the three periods you indicated? You can do it by private message if you prefer.
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Perhaps there were no fatalities, that no one died

but there were just minor injuries
but

except perhaps the occupants of the other car died

need clarification
No there was no other car, we had a fatal car accident on the highway but no other car was involved
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Hello Illusional,

1) "Excellent answer for your choices. I come back to you."


It is the birth chart of 16h54mn which must be chosen and not that of 17h41.


2) "Can you describe to me how you lived things during the three periods you indicated? You can do it by private message if you prefer."


By describing myself in a few words the experience of the period of July 2016 and by specifying me the month in 2013, it would allow me to better specify the time of birth around 17h.


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