Franchise birth times

wintersprite1

wintersprite1

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I just posted a comment on another thread about the unpredictability of the Denver Broncos.... That got me wondering about the team's natal chart. It may very well have been pointed out on here in the past, anyone know where I can find the birth times of the teams? I did find the franchise date of August 14,1959 with the AFC. That chart promises to be interesting.... the Sun is 4 degrees from Uranus, Saturn should be close to the Moon in Cap (Saturn at same degree of tran pluto) depending on time, and Venus and Mars are Conjunct in Virgo by 0.01 degrees. (the franchise has strong ties to health and mentorship within the community)

I was hoping to be able to look at the past upsets and surprises and see how the natal and progressions may apply.

TK
 
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Inside Out Orange

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You might want to take a look at these two threads. I was asking questions about the Oakland Raiders given their plummet in recent years.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7260
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8373

With the exception of the Raiders (who were an eleventh hour replacement for the Minnesota) franchise, I'd have thought the other seven original AFL franchises are time twins as they'd have been officially announced at the same press conference. That wouldn't give much scope for differences in charts.

Edit: funnily enough just watching AFL Full Colour football and in the middle of episode 3 which happens to be about the Miami Dolphins returning their opening kickoff for a TD.
 
wintersprite1

wintersprite1

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Inside Out Orange said:
Also found this birthchart for the Broncos ... http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Sports:_Football_team
Click to expand...

That is interesting, thanks Inside Out Orange!... the problem is which is the right date? I have August 14,1959 from multiple sources including wikopedia http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browncos#Browncos that being the time that the AFC gave Denver a franchise. It appears it was at a meeting in Chicago, time unknown and other franchises also awarded at the same time (New York, Dallas, Los Angeles, Minneapolis and Houston.) :crying: I confused myself now. The date given by Astro Com is the date that Denver got their first pick and announced the team manager and coach http://http://www.offworldvision.com/web/afl2root/pages/league/leagueindex.htm I found that by googling the date given + Denver Broncos.

TK
 
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Bulletbobb

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There are two birth charts for a team, one for the first exhibition game and one for the first regular season game. Both are valid.

Denver played their first exhibition game on August 5, 1960, at 1:30 pm EDT, at 71W05, 42N21.7. Not sure where that is. Boston?

You can relocate the chart to Denver. Experience shows that both charts are valid.

You will have to rectify the birth time a bit. Be sure to use all three angles, the EP and POF, as all are valid. And use both progressed and regressed aspects, or you may very well miss the significators of whatever event you are looking at. Regressed planets are very active in these types of charts, and you ignore them at your peril.

Hope this helps,

Bob
 
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