Re: The Possibility of Tropical Ages
With all of this, I am enjoying the read gentlemen, but......I always go back to the numbers.....what system do the numbers of precession work with? If the numbers don't work, I would not believe......
With the equator, being the 0 degree.......and the shift of the ecliptic of 1 degree every 7200 years.......the poles will receive sunlight eventually.....the Piri Reis Maps are copies of a previous time when the poles were not ice caps......
How would you fit the numbers to any of the systems to arrive at a mathematical answer.......the numbers are key, to me......If they fit tropical, I would believe.....If the numbers fit geocentric I would believe.....but the numbers have a purpose.......or we would not have them
The Ecliptic is the plane of Earth's orbit around the Sun. From our perspective on Earth, it's a circle, delineated by the transiting Sun. Both tropicalists and sideralists choose to divide it into 12 equal, 30 degree intervals.
What shifts due to Earth's "wobble" as it rotates on its axis isn't the Ecliptic, it's two separate lines in the plane of the Ecliptic and through the Earth in the center of the circle of the mathematically divided zodiacs. These two lines can be used to determine the Astrological Ages, one line for sidereal, the other for tropical.
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Sidereally, it's the Line of Intersection of the circle of Earth's orbital plane (which is used for the zodiac), and the circle of Earth's Equatorial plane. This is known as the Equinoctial Line, because the Earth's axis relative to the transiting Sun in the Earth-centered (Geocentric) system is at 90 degrees (perpendicular) at those two points on opposite sides of the circle, which is when the Sun's geocentric path crosses the Celestial Equator.
Earth's wobble causes "Precession of the Equinox", which means that the Equinoctial Line transits the 12 Sign-divisions of the sidereal zodiac. That's where the sidereal Ages come in.
Tropically, it's a different kind of line that can be used to determine the Ages in tropical coordinates, a terrestrial line that transits the zodiac due to Earth's wobble. The Equinoctial Line is already in use, positioning the tropical version of the 12 Sign-boundaries, so it has no movement relative to the tropical Signs. However, another terrestrial feature is the elliptical shape of Earth's orbit, with the "Line of Apsides" dividing it in half down the center.
One end of this center-line is where the Earth is closest to the Sun, Earth's "Perihelion", which has become known astrologically as the "Diamond-point". The other end is its aphelion, where the Earth is farthest from the Sun. This orbital center-line can be used to determine the tropical Ages as it transits the tropical zodiac.
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So, in both cases, it's about Precession due to Earth's wobble that enables us to track and describe the Ages, utilizing these 2 different terrestrial lines--Precession of the Perihelion for the tropical Ages, and Precession of the Equinox for the sidereal Ages.