Sun Sign Concerns

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lazarusx

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Hi,

I've been studying astrology over the past years, delving into everything from house's, aspects, decans etc.

Yet.. no matter how much i go into depth with my sun sign (which is Cancer) i can't help but notice how much of Pisces i reflect in my personality. I definitely do have traits of Cancer.. but i have much more in common with Pisces.

Is it possible for signs within the same element to share traits? My Midheaven is the only Pisces in my chart btw.
 
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lazarusx

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Sorry, my Neptune is in Capricorn 8th house, and i have nothing happening in my 12th house. Which is why im curious.

Neptune however is Sextile my Midheaven (pisces) and Sextile Pluto (scorpio 5th house).
 
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Arian Maverick

Arian Maverick

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Also, is your Cancer Sun is the Pisces decanate (i.e. Sun at 20-30 degrees Cancer)? You may wish to explore Keys to Your External Self: CANCER Rising and Decans. Although it was written for Ascendant signs, the hint at the top of the page states:

The information following can be applied as well to your Sun-Sign (your inner self). Relate the "Overview" to natal Sun in Cancer. Also read "First Decan" if you were born in the first 10 days of this sign -- Sun in 0 to 10 degrees; "Second Decan" if born in days 10 to 20 -- Sun in 10.01 to 20 degrees; "Third Decan" if born in days 21 to 30 -- Sun in 20.01 to 30 degrees.]
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The traits of the sign of a decanate modify the typical Sun sign descriptions.

Arian Maverick
 
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lazarusx

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Arian Maverick said:
Also, is your Cancer Sun is the Pisces decanate (i.e. Sun at 20-30 degrees Cancer)? You may wish to explore Keys to Your External Self: CANCER Rising and Decans. Although it was written for Ascendant signs, the hint at the top of the page states:



The traits of the sign of a decanate modify the typical Sun sign descriptions.

Arian Maverick
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Ah thankyou Arian, it appears im directly inbetween the first and second decans at 10degree's, boarding on the Scorpio decanate.. I guess there's no observable connection to Pisces that i can see that i've otherwise mentioned.. yet i do reflect so much of the traits. Though it is also a water sign so i guess its not entirely unusual.

Thankyou anyhow :).
 
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lazarusx

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^ Of course :)

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Arian Maverick

Arian Maverick

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Here's the quick-and-dirty answer: Your Sun forms a relatively-tight opposition with Neptune, the ruler of Pisces. The orb is two degrees, and the Sun is applying towards Neptune; therefore, the aspect is increasing in strength.

This may be stretching things a bit, but Jupiter, the traditional ruler of Pisces, also is conjunct your Moon. I imagine the influence is more mental than emotional, however, since the Moon is in Gemini and also is conjunct a dignified Mercury.

Arian Maverick
 
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dr. farr

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Although mine is a radical outlook, I think the simple reason that you have so much of a Pisces influence is simply because, at the time of your first breath, Pisces "took" (in your field) more deeply than did Cancer; maybe this had to do with pre-natal "settings" making a Pisces susceptibility greater, maybe to karmic trends, who knows?
In any case, I have come to believe that signs-and planets-"take" or "hardly take" at birth, due to a pre-existant susceptibility of the individual (please note that this idea is hardly known in either Western or Vedic astrology, although a similar concept-that of the natal swara-is current among many of the Jaimini vedic adepts)

There is an alternative explanation (to my radical one) which the old time Greco-Roman astrologers (like Marcus Manilius) would have given to explain the phenomena:

-by whole sign (the only house system they knew of) Pisces is in the 10th house (I'm going by memory here because the chart is no longer displayed); the 10th was considered the second most potent pivot (angle) in the horoscope by the old time Greco-Roman astrologers

-according to them (Manilius) Pisces is a nocturnal sign, and this is a nocturnal (night) nativity

-so, Pisces is doubly strong (because of being in the 10th house and because the nativity was at night)

-(as I remember) the sun sign Cancer is in the 2nd house (by whole sign)

-the 2nd house is a succedent house, the 2nd house considered by the old time Greco-Roman astrologers as being the 6th most potent place (house) in the circle of the 12 "temples"

-Manilius says Cancer is a daytime (diurnal) sign

-so Cancer is only at the 6th most potent place (compared to Pisces at the 2nd most potent place) and Cancer's influence is further modified by its being a diurnal sign in a nocturnal chart (Pisces is a nocturnal sign in a nocturnal chart)

The old time Greco-Roman astrologers would easily understand why Pisces had the greater influence over Cancer in this nativity.
 
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astrologer50

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lazarusx said:
Hi,

I've been studying astrology over the past years, delving into everything from house's, aspects, decans etc.

Yet.. no matter how much i go into depth with my sun sign (which is Cancer) i can't help but notice how much of Pisces i reflect in my personality. I definitely do have traits of Cancer.. but i have much more in common with Pisces.

Is it possible for signs within the same element to share traits? My Midheaven is the only Pisces in my chart btw.
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