Astrologers' Community  

Go Back   Astrologers' Community > General Astrology > Horary Astrology

Horary Astrology Ask and answer any horary questions, and discuss theory and technique. Please post a chart of the time, date, and place you asked the question. Please do not ask the same question repeatedly, hoping for a different result: horary works best when you ask the question ONCE and then interpret the chart that results from when the question FIRST came into your mind. Horary forums are ONLY for discussion of horary charts and techniques.


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #26  
Unread 04-29-2020, 01:00 PM
tikana's Avatar
tikana tikana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales
Posts: 13,124
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka View Post
no. Because the time depends on Jupiter's motion.Jupiter has a huge effect when it comes to stock market.
You can do researches. Here is an example:
http://www.theidiotandthemoon.com/thejupitercycle.html
I dont like Jupiter slowing down for retrograde because when Jup was slowing down, stock market crashed. if we take oil as pluto it is on a slowdown as well

__________________
I only read horary charts. Include your own interpretation. I don't care how desperate you are. I am not IKEA tech support or I will bill you $99.99 per minute
Christian astrology pdf
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to tikana For This Useful Post:
kalinka (04-29-2020), WisdomJoy (04-29-2020)
  #27  
Unread 04-29-2020, 01:58 PM
kalinka kalinka is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 759
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Yes... the Black Monday on October 19 1987 was when Jupiter retrograde in Aries perfected an opposition to the sun. 2 days ago also Mercury turned retrograde. Retrograde Mercury occures increased volatility and uncertainty.
The crash this year was at about February 20. Mercury went retrograde on Feb 17. On June 18 Mercury turns retro again... so let's see.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kalinka For This Useful Post:
WisdomJoy (04-29-2020)
  #28  
Unread 04-29-2020, 05:33 PM
WisdomJoy WisdomJoy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 346
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Hey, so as of right now the dow is up +700 today, so from lows of $18,500- its up to $24,700. Massive increase! But speaks to it's current strength.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Unread 04-30-2020, 03:40 AM
tikana's Avatar
tikana tikana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales
Posts: 13,124
Quote:
Originally Posted by WisdomJoy View Post
Hey, so as of right now the dow is up +700 today, so from lows of $18,500- its up to $24,700. Massive increase! But speaks to it's current strength.
You asked if it will fall again.you didnt specify time frame
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Unread 04-30-2020, 04:14 AM
WisdomJoy WisdomJoy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 346
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post
You asked if it will fall again.you didnt specify time frame
Yea, you're right. I'm just agreeing with both your analysis that it's strong right now but it won't stay that way. Just adding some context around the numbers for updates and today was a big rally so I thought to add it.

I had a timeframe when I was constructing the question, I just didn't type it in the box, but its near future to 6-7 months. That's what I thought when I constructed it.

Last edited by WisdomJoy; 04-30-2020 at 04:26 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Unread 05-01-2020, 10:14 AM
Aria Venue Aria Venue is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 568
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Stock market (moon) currently is essentially strong in her domicile and as angular is also accidentally strong.

***as Tikana correctly pointed out to you, time was not asked in this question, as when will the stock market go down? and as such the chart is not obligated to tell us also that.Sill in the following comments i will explain to you what the different testimonies point out, even in time scale, though time-as when was not in the question.


1.moon (l2) finds venus antiscion as lesser benefic in 1 something unit more or less (days, or week in a different time scale as venus mutable and cadent -shows medium time).That's a testimony for an increase for the stock market initially.

2.moon gains also some dignity from face (a minor one) when she reaches 20* cancer, again about 10 units of time more or less (days or weeks probably), once more a minor one increase

3.Then moon will oppose pluto (crisis-malefic influence )in about 14 units (since moon cardinal and angular could be fast as days or could be also medium, depends on angularity in this case...so weeks)

4.moon finds by opposition Jupiter as the greater benefic in about 16 time units more or less.Still how can this essentially debilitated jupiter in his fall can help moon? he's weak and soon to turn retro as such i don't think he will be able to bring any substantial rise.But we'll see if it helps, although i find it difficult in this instance, i am open on this one

5.jupiter since kalinka and tikana also mentioned about oil industry is natural sig for oil (pipelines) in his fall, afflicted once more by pluto (if you want to see that metaphorically- oil price crash-oil crisis) and about to turn retro, just mentioning since the question was general and was not related to oil industry crash etc...

All in all according to this chart, there will be initially increase and perhaps another minor one (due to face or due to jupiter aspect perhaps, if he can really give her a boost) , but aside that later on we have only to expect stock market going down,(pluto opposition-crisis, considering also jupiter's retro phase) especially when moon loses her essential dignity by leaving cancer in about 19 something units of time (days/or weeks-months in a different time scale).

Last edited by Aria Venue; 05-01-2020 at 10:52 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Aria Venue For This Useful Post:
JUPITERASC (05-01-2020), kalinka (05-03-2020), WisdomJoy (05-01-2020)
  #32  
Unread 05-01-2020, 10:40 AM
WisdomJoy WisdomJoy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 346
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Time was asked in this question. Near future to 6/7 months. But yes, time was asked. I just didnít put the timeframe into the box.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Unread 05-01-2020, 10:48 AM
Aria Venue Aria Venue is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 568
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by WisdomJoy View Post
Time was asked in this question. Near future to 6/7 months. But yes, time was asked. I just didn’t put the timeframe into the box.
No problem, i think you are covered then , even about as when will fall, or even rise...since you coudn't understand how come there was an increase-rise , astrologically speaking.
This is why i commented, in order to help you understand , so you don't have to be annoyed from my previous comment related to time, since "time as when" wasn't clear in your thread
However i think it would be better to update the original thread title and your initial comments, to avoid misconceptions, from members who wish to comment on your thread, and may don't read every additional comment of yours, or ours.

Last edited by Aria Venue; 05-01-2020 at 11:02 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Aria Venue For This Useful Post:
JUPITERASC (05-01-2020), WisdomJoy (05-03-2020)
  #34  
Unread 05-01-2020, 12:45 PM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 57,461
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post


I dont like Jupiter slowing down for retrograde because when Jup was slowing down, stock market crashed. if we take oil as pluto it is on a slowdown as well
The Significator for Crude oil is Saturn
and since Liquid Venus and Moon also come into play
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let food be your medicine: let medicine be your food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Unread 05-01-2020, 12:48 PM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 57,461
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post
I think we need to look at this chart as mundane horary
Us is 1st
2nd finances
3rd stock market profits or losses
The Houses in MUNDANE ASTROLOGY

First House _ The country and its citizens.
Will represent the image and characteristics of the country and people.
Second House– Money, as in personal charts.
Economy and ability to purchase.
Third House– Transportation and communications.
Fourth House– Housing, real estate, and living conditions.
Fifth House– Children, entertainment, lotteries, and gambling.
Sixth House– The workers of the country, labor, public health, medical services.
Seventh House– Foreign relations, war and peace, agreements, open enemies.
Eight House– National debt, mortality rates, insurance and social security.
Ninth House– Foreigners, universities, religious organizations, legal systems.
Tenth House– Corresponds to the ruler of the country, president, prime minister, the government and the leadership of the country.
Eleventh House– Allies of the country, institutions of the governmen
t such as local governments, senates, and other legislative bodies.
Twelfth House– Prisons, hospitals, spies, secret enemies, crime and criminals.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let food be your medicine: let medicine be your food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to JUPITERASC For This Useful Post:
Aria Venue (05-01-2020), WisdomJoy (05-16-2020)
  #36  
Unread 05-01-2020, 01:13 PM
WisdomJoy WisdomJoy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 346
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aria Venue View Post
No problem, i think you are covered then , even about as when will fall, or even rise...since you coudn't understand how come there was an increase-rise , astrologically speaking.
This is why i commented, in order to help you understand , so you don't have to be annoyed from my previous comment related to time, since "time as when" wasn't clear in your thread
However i think it would be better to update the original thread title and your initial comments, to avoid misconceptions, from members who wish to comment on your thread, and may don't read every additional comment of yours, or ours.
Wasn't annoyed, just wanted to comment that time was included in the question. Appreciate your analysis though, thanks for commenting!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WisdomJoy For This Useful Post:
Aria Venue (05-01-2020)
  #37  
Unread 05-01-2020, 02:46 PM
tikana's Avatar
tikana tikana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales
Posts: 13,124
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post
The Significator for Crude oil is Saturn
and since Liquid Venus and Moon also come into play
we are NOT trying to find crude oil but the price of it in speculative futures market therefore it is 3rd house profits on stocks present.. if you buy futures, you are basically predicting if the price wil go up or down.
let say base price is 60 per barrel . you are NOT buying a barrel ..
you speculate crude oil will be sold at 80 at the end f your contract but it tanks at 20. you lose.
right now oil is in abundance all tanks are full.. some oil giants are paying customers to store excess crude oil.
if you had been living in a oil needle country that has no other economy other than oil and gas then we would be looking at oil a lot closer. but tanked oil prices wont take down US economy. It is very diverse.

WTI - west texas intermediate (landlocked) is at 19,95 .. its price 2 months ago was steady 60. It's a commodity in New York Mercantile Exchange's future contract.. All other minor contracts with crude oil vary because of the quality oil. There is Brend Crude which trades higher bc it is scandinavian Norway deep sea oil. WTI is more common that is the one we fill our gas tanks with.

and YES 3rd house is at play because you are bidding on physical value of crude oil and profits (2nd house from 2nd)
__________________
I only read horary charts. Include your own interpretation. I don't care how desperate you are. I am not IKEA tech support or I will bill you $99.99 per minute
Christian astrology pdf

Last edited by tikana; 05-01-2020 at 03:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to tikana For This Useful Post:
Student of Astrology (05-02-2020), WisdomJoy (05-02-2020)
  #38  
Unread 05-01-2020, 08:28 PM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 57,461
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post

we are NOT trying to find crude oil but the price of it in speculative futures market therefore it is 3rd house profits on stocks present.. if you buy futures, you are basically predicting if the price wil go up or down.
let say base price is 60 per barrel . you are NOT buying a barrel ..
you speculate crude oil will be sold at 80 at the end f your contract but it tanks at 20. you lose.
right now oil is in abundance all tanks are full.. some oil giants are paying customers to store excess crude oil.
if you had been living in a oil needle country that has no other economy other than oil and gas then we would be looking at oil a lot closer. but tanked oil prices wont take down US economy. It is very diverse.

WTI - west texas intermediate (landlocked) is at 19,95 .. its price 2 months ago was steady 60. It's a commodity in New York Mercantile Exchange's future contract.. All other minor contracts with crude oil vary because of the quality oil. There is Brend Crude which trades higher bc it is scandinavian Norway deep sea oil. WTI is more common that is the one we fill our gas tanks with.

and YES 3rd house is at play because you are bidding on physical value of crude oil and profits (2nd house from 2nd)
in this particular chart no one asked SPECIFICALLY
whether the price of oil industry shares will rise or fall as a commodity

AND SO
assumptions related to oil market are out of context
relative to he actual question
because no one specifically focussed on the price of oil industry shares

HOWEVER
IF
this was the case
and we needed to check the oil market
or for example oil market shares
THEN
we woul check whether either the accidental significator
or the natural significator of this commodity
will gain or lose
- essentially
or
accidentally
dignity
and
that's no concern of the third house

nature of crude oil = Saturn.
Oil is a fossil fuel formed from the remains of dead animals and plants
i.e.
from the remains of the dead.
Heat and pressure from layers of mud and sediment
covering remains of dead plants and animals
transforms them into crude oil.
Heat = Mars
Oil accessible using deep mining techniques
Oil generally black in colour
Crude is used in the manufacture of plastics
and then has multiple uses from computer housings
to clothing to children toys
to the upholstery in your car.
It is far more than an energy producer.
however
End use makes it difficult to define.
The end product may have a variety of significators
but crude oil is neither a garment, a toy, a can of paint
nor a gallon of solvent.
CRUDE OIL is thick, black, dirty, smelly, ugly.
Crude oil = Saturn
because
black, thick, plodding and obtained from within the earth.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let food be your medicine: let medicine be your food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Unread 05-01-2020, 10:03 PM
tikana's Avatar
tikana tikana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales
Posts: 13,124
Quote:
Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post
in this particular chart no one asked SPECIFICALLY
whether the price of oil industry shares will rise or fall as a commodity

AND SO
assumptions related to oil market are out of context
relative to he actual question
because no one specifically focussed on the price of oil industry shares

HOWEVER
IF
this was the case
and we needed to check the oil market
or for example oil market shares
THEN
we woul check whether either the accidental significator
or the natural significator of this commodity
will gain or lose
- essentially
or
accidentally
dignity
and
that's no concern of the third house

nature of crude oil = Saturn.
Oil is a fossil fuel formed from the remains of dead animals and plants
i.e.
from the remains of the dead.
Heat and pressure from layers of mud and sediment
covering remains of dead plants and animals
transforms them into crude oil.
Heat = Mars
Oil accessible using deep mining techniques
Oil generally black in colour
Crude is used in the manufacture of plastics
and then has multiple uses from computer housings
to clothing to children toys
to the upholstery in your car.
It is far more than an energy producer.
however
End use makes it difficult to define.
The end product may have a variety of significators
but crude oil is neither a garment, a toy, a can of paint
nor a gallon of solvent.
CRUDE OIL is thick, black, dirty, smelly, ugly.
Crude oil = Saturn
because
black, thick, plodding and obtained from within the earth.
When was the last time you actually read one single chart without copy and pasting from sources?
Question was is DJ fall again below 2000
Answer is yes. Question is when


"Pluto represents catastrophes and major disasters, death and fear of death, the occult (i.e. the hidden), the political underground, organized crime, forensics, caves, fossil fuels, and refuse and wastes of all kind. At its best, Pluto gives one the ability to accurately analyze problems, allows for financial well-being, powerful but fair authority, and healthy rebound abilities with mind, body, and life events."
From astrogeeks.com
Because oil is from the Underground.


You have 3 giants going backwards jup saturn pluto
In july, neptune will turn retro.
In august, uranus will join.

Last edited by tikana; 05-01-2020 at 10:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tikana For This Useful Post:
aquarius7000 (05-03-2020)
  #40  
Unread 05-01-2020, 10:11 PM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 57,461
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post


When was the last time you actually read one single chart

without copy and pasting from sources?
obviously I make no claims to be an expert such as yourself

it is a fact however
that on our astrological learning forum
anyone, even a mere beginner
such as myself
is encouraged to post an opinion

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post


Question was is DJ fall again

"
Pluto represents catastrophes and major disasters, death and fear of death, the occult (i.e. the hidden), the political underground, organized crime, forensics, caves, fossil fuels, and refuse and wastes of all kind. At its best, Pluto gives one the ability to accurately analyze problems, allows for financial well-being, powerful but fair authority, and healthy rebound abilities with mind, body, and life events."
From astrogeeks.com
Because oil is from the Underground.


You have 3 giants going backwards jup saturn pluto
In july, neptune will turn retro.
In august, uranus will join.
the outers are not universally accepted for horary
nevertheless you are entitled to your persoonal opinion
just as everyone else is as well
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let food be your medicine: let medicine be your food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Unread 05-02-2020, 12:57 AM
david starling david starling is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Yes
Posts: 23,129
Smile Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post
obviously I make no claims to be an expert such as yourself

it is a fact however
that on our astrological learning forum
anyone, even a mere beginner
such as myself
is encouraged to post an opinion


the outers are not universally accepted for horary
nevertheless you are entitled to your persoonal opinion
just as everyone else is as well
Pluto, in addition to being considered the judge of the souls of the dead as Lord of the Underworld, was also considered to be the god of all wealth derived from underneath Earth's surface.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to david starling For This Useful Post:
tikana (05-03-2020), WisdomJoy (05-03-2020)
  #42  
Unread 05-02-2020, 01:15 AM
david starling david starling is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Yes
Posts: 23,129
Smile Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Playing the Stock market is a gamble, relying on optimism. That's where Jupiter comes into it.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Unread 05-02-2020, 01:33 AM
tikana's Avatar
tikana tikana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales
Posts: 13,124
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post
obviously I make no claims to be an expert such as yourself

it is a fact however
that on our astrological learning forum
anyone, even a mere beginner
such as myself
is encouraged to post an opinion



the outers are not universally accepted for horary
nevertheless you are entitled to your persoonal opinion
just as everyone else is as well
crude oil does not come only in black. It's dark brown, yellowish, reddish, greenish Texture is mud/water.
Crude oil is formed from marine plants and animals. In Babylon they used crude oil as a glue to keep walls together. Plastic has petroleum.

"Oil is a fossil fuel formed from the remains of dead animals and plants"
ehmmm minor correction .... this is coal fuel NOT crude oil.

You said "Heat and pressure f.rom layers of mud and sediment
covering remains of dead plants and animals
transforms them into crude oil."
WHAT? Since when crude oil is landmass post-product? You just described COAL!
Coal is Saturn but NOT Crude oil!

What part of profits from (natural resources which is 2nd house) is 3rd house issues you dont understand?
You own 10 barrels of domestic oil, you want to sell it. Profits would be 3rd house! Where are you NOT connecting the dots?
I should mention that price of crude oil effects trasportation. Trucks need to be fueled. Ships need to be fueled. Planes need to be fueled. Export Import will be affected.

I dont object to your opinion but you are mixing 2 different fossil fuel types.
__________________
I only read horary charts. Include your own interpretation. I don't care how desperate you are. I am not IKEA tech support or I will bill you $99.99 per minute
Christian astrology pdf

Last edited by tikana; 05-02-2020 at 01:56 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Unread 05-02-2020, 09:54 AM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 57,461
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by david starling View Post

Pluto, in addition to being considered the judge of the souls of the dead
as Lord of the Underworld,
was also considered to be the god of all wealth
derived from underneath Earth's surface.
not by William Lilly - irrelevant to horary as practised by William Lilly et al
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let food be your medicine: let medicine be your food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Unread 05-02-2020, 11:57 AM
david starling david starling is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Yes
Posts: 23,129
Smile Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post
not by William Lilly - irrelevant to horary as practised by William Lilly et al
What did William Lilly have to say about the possibility of Nuclear Fusion energy replacing the use of Fossil Fuels for that purpose?
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to david starling For This Useful Post:
kalinka (05-03-2020), tikana (05-03-2020), WisdomJoy (05-03-2020)
  #46  
Unread 05-03-2020, 12:16 AM
tikana's Avatar
tikana tikana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales
Posts: 13,124
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post
on the contrary

People often ask whether oil is made from dead animals
A so-called fossil fuel, petroleum is believed by most scientists
to be the transformed remains of long dead organisms

The majority of petroleum is thought to come from
the fossils of plants
and tiny marine organisms.

Larger animals might contribute to the mix as well.

i.e.
"….Even some of the dinosaurs may have gotten involved in some of this..."
says William Thomas, a geologist at the University of Kentucky.


question was asked:
IS DOW JONES/STOCK MARKET GOING TO FALL AGAIN?
profits from barrels of domestic oil are not the question

FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT KNOW
HOW IT WORKS
In the leading theory
dead organic material accumulates
on the bottom of oceans, riverbeds or swamps
mixing with mud and sand.
Over time, more sediment piles on top
and the resulting HEAT and PRESSURE
transforms the organic layer
into a dark and waxy substance known as kerogen...


"....It's certainly not an instantaneous process...."
Thomas told Live Science.
"The rate at which petroleum is forming
is not going to be the solution to our petroleum supplies"
profits from stocks is 3rd house issue (increase or decrease)
It goes with everything
Stocks, commodities (fuel is part of it)/futures
that is why it is relevant because you can figure out what will be the crashing trigger.

Here in the chart, you have moon (lord of 2nd house) opposing PLUTO, JUPITER and SATURN (once moon goes into Leo)! Naturally strong essential and accidental MOON trines neptune then jams into pluto, jup, saturn with a HARD OPPOSITION. Let me remind you that that JUPITER is essentially in fall (its dispositor is lord of 8th house Saturn house of losses) about to go retro along with others.
Neptune is prominent here because it is elevated in 10th house. Moon cannot compete with Jup. Moon is not protected by Nodes it is not protected by Venus ..

The rest i wont argue cause you are not making any sense and I will keep getting google results copy-pastes from you. You are def an expert in this aspect.
__________________
I only read horary charts. Include your own interpretation. I don't care how desperate you are. I am not IKEA tech support or I will bill you $99.99 per minute
Christian astrology pdf

Last edited by tikana; 05-03-2020 at 12:27 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to tikana For This Useful Post:
david starling (05-03-2020), kalinka (05-03-2020), WisdomJoy (05-03-2020)
  #47  
Unread 05-03-2020, 11:19 AM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 57,461
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post

crude oil does not come only in black. It's dark brown, yellowish, reddish, greenish Texture is mud/water.
Crude oil is formed from marine plants and animals.
In Babylon they used crude oil as a glue to keep walls together.
Plastic has petroleum.

"Oil is a fossil fuel formed from the remains of dead animals and plants"

ehmmm minor correction .... this is coal fuel NOT crude oil.
You said "Heat and pressure f.rom layers of mud and sediment
covering remains of dead plants and animals
transforms them into crude oil."
WHAT? Since when crude oil is landmass post-product? You just described COAL!

Coal is Saturn but NOT Crude oil!
on the contrary

People often ask whether oil is made from dead animals
A so-called fossil fuel, petroleum is believed by most scientists
to be the transformed remains of long dead organisms

The majority of petroleum is thought to come from
the fossils of plants
and tiny marine organisms.

Larger animals might contribute to the mix as well.

i.e.
"….Even some of the dinosaurs may have gotten involved in some of this..."
says William Thomas, a geologist at the University of Kentucky.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post

What part of profits from (natural resources which is 2nd house)
is 3rd house issues you dont understand?
You own 10 barrels of domestic oil, you want to sell it.
Profits would be 3rd house!
Where are you NOT connecting the dots?
I should mention that price of crude oil effects trasportation.
Trucks need to be fueled.
Ships need to be fueled.
Planes need to be fueled. Export Import will be affected.
question was asked:
IS DOW JONES/STOCK MARKET GOING TO FALL AGAIN?
profits from barrels of domestic oil are not the question
Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post

I dont object to your opinion
but
you are mixing 2 different fossil fuel types.
FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT KNOW
HOW IT WORKS
In the leading theory
dead organic material accumulates
on the bottom of oceans, riverbeds or swamps
mixing with mud and sand.
Over time, more sediment piles on top
and the resulting HEAT and PRESSURE
transforms the organic layer
into a dark and waxy substance known as kerogen...


"....It's certainly not an instantaneous process...."
Thomas told Live Science.
"The rate at which petroleum is forming
is not going to be the solution to our petroleum supplies"
Quote:
Originally Posted by tikana View Post
profits from stocks is 3rd house issue (increase or decrease)
It goes with everything
Stocks, commodities (fuel is part of it)/futures
that is why it is relevant because you can figure out what will be the crashing trigger.

Here in the chart, you have moon (lord of 2nd house) opposing PLUTO, JUPITER and SATURN (once moon goes into Leo)! Naturally strong essential and accidental MOON trines neptune then jams into pluto, jup, saturn with a HARD OPPOSITION. Let me remind you that that JUPITER is essentially in fall (its dispositor is lord of 8th house Saturn house of losses) about to go retro along with others.
Neptune is prominent here because it is elevated in 10th house. Moon cannot compete with Jup. Moon is not protected by Nodes it is not protected by Venus ..

The rest i wont argue cause you are not making any sense and I will keep getting google results copy-pastes from you. You are def an expert in this aspect.
you're the expert obviously
not arguing - simply reminding that
none of the outers used by
William Lillly CHRISTIAN ASTROLOGY HORARY
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...adkiel&f=false
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let food be your medicine: let medicine be your food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Unread 05-03-2020, 11:29 AM
david starling david starling is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Yes
Posts: 23,129
Smile Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post
on the contrary

People often ask whether oil is made from dead animals
A so-called fossil fuel, petroleum is believed by most scientists
to be the transformed remains of long dead organisms

The majority of petroleum is thought to come from
the fossils of plants
and tiny marine organisms.

Larger animals might contribute to the mix as well.

i.e.
"Ö.Even some of the dinosaurs may have gotten involved in some of this..."
says William Thomas, a geologist at the University of Kentucky.


question was asked:
IS DOW JONES/STOCK MARKET GOING TO FALL AGAIN?
profits from barrels of domestic oil are not the question

FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT KNOW
HOW IT WORKS
In the leading theory
dead organic material accumulates
on the bottom of oceans, riverbeds or swamps
mixing with mud and sand.
Over time, more sediment piles on top
and the resulting HEAT and PRESSURE
transforms the organic layer
into a dark and waxy substance known as kerogen...


"....It's certainly not an instantaneous process...."
Thomas told Live Science.
"The rate at which petroleum is forming
is not going to be the solution to our petroleum supplies"
you're the expert obviously
not arguing - simply reminding that
none of the outers used by
William Lillly CHRISTIAN ASTROLOGY HORARY
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...adkiel&f=false
Are the ancient, Ptolemaic epicycles, still being used to describe planetary motion?
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Unread 05-03-2020, 12:04 PM
tikana's Avatar
tikana tikana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales
Posts: 13,124
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JUPITERASC View Post
on the contrary

People often ask whether oil is made from dead animals
A so-called fossil fuel, petroleum is believed by most scientists
to be the transformed remains of long dead organisms

The majority of petroleum is thought to come from
the fossils of plants
and tiny marine organisms.

Larger animals might contribute to the mix as well.

i.e.
"Ö.Even some of the dinosaurs may have gotten involved in some of this..."
says William Thomas, a geologist at the University of Kentucky.


question was asked:
IS DOW JONES/STOCK MARKET GOING TO FALL AGAIN?
profits from barrels of domestic oil are not the question

FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT KNOW
HOW IT WORKS
In the leading theory
dead organic material accumulates
on the bottom of oceans, riverbeds or swamps
mixing with mud and sand.
Over time, more sediment piles on top
and the resulting HEAT and PRESSURE
transforms the organic layer
into a dark and waxy substance known as kerogen...


"....It's certainly not an instantaneous process...."
Thomas told Live Science.
"The rate at which petroleum is forming
is not going to be the solution to our petroleum supplies"
you're the expert obviously
not arguing - simply reminding that
none of the outers used by
William Lillly CHRISTIAN ASTROLOGY HORARY
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...adkiel&f=false
again, you are missing a point but it's ok....

is dj going down -2000 points

answer is YES
__________________
I only read horary charts. Include your own interpretation. I don't care how desperate you are. I am not IKEA tech support or I will bill you $99.99 per minute
Christian astrology pdf
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Unread 05-03-2020, 12:15 PM
tikana's Avatar
tikana tikana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales
Posts: 13,124
Re: Is the Dow Jones/ Stock Market going to fall again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by david starling View Post
Are the ancient, Ptolemaic epicycles, still being used to describe planetary motion?
not in practice, David .. it is still used in traditional horary classes.
Deb Houlding teaches it
https://www.skyscript.co.uk/ptolemy.html
https://tonylouis.wordpress.com/2018...ets-in-horary/
__________________
I only read horary charts. Include your own interpretation. I don't care how desperate you are. I am not IKEA tech support or I will bill you $99.99 per minute
Christian astrology pdf

Last edited by tikana; 05-03-2020 at 12:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to tikana For This Useful Post:
david starling (05-03-2020), WisdomJoy (05-03-2020)
Reply

Tags
fall, jones or, market, stock

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 09:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2005-2018, AstrologyWeekly.com. Boards' structure and all posts are property of AstrologyWeekly.com and their respective creators. No part of the messages sent on these boards may be copied without their owners' explicit consent.