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Its a good question you ask.
so why trump and not others born on the same day ?
its simple ?
others born on the same day are not in the position he is in.
many already noticed that
you need to explain how your numerological methods
and "energy astrology" methods
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explain "energy astrology"

provide links to any websites details for further study

provide the evidence for your stating the above opinion
given that

President John Fitzgerald Kennedy - GEMINI
President G.W. Bush - GEMINI
there are no websites. these are learned in mystery schools
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explain "energy astrology"

provide links to any websites details for further study

provide the evidence for your stating the above opinion
given that

President John Fitzgerald Kennedy - GEMINI
President G.W. Bush - GEMINI
energy astrology quantifies the electromagnetic energy that runs human bodies and that runs the universe and how they ebb and rise and the information they carry and the quantity each person has and how it can lead to good health or a disease state etc etc
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I agree that the country of birth, race, and socioeconomic status are relevant to how the symbolism is drawn out for each person, but I struggle to see how you can arrive at such a strong conclusion about a specific person using a chart that applies to hundreds of thousands of people.

All that aside, what are the specific astrological factors that helped you come to that conclusion? You mentioned the Sun in Gemini and Moon in Sagittarius, which once again applies to millions of people. What's unique about Trump?
It seems to me that you could've arrived at the same conclusion without astrology at all. Lots of people feel the same way about the United States being in a period of decline, some feel specifically because of Trump. Most of those people don't know anything about astrology, which leads me to believe that your interpretation might rest on assumptions that have nothing to do with astrology.

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and so astrology does not exist in a vacuum, out of your spiritual signatures does your physical life evolve and so in his ase he is bringing this energy over the country he rules but another person born on the same day who is cauasian and had the same karmic debt and was born in new york will be bringing the same energy but over his own circumstances whatever they may be like say if he is a trucker then maybe in time his trucking business which was number one will slump and fail etc etc. you get it ? you will briing that same energy over your circumstances whatever they may be if both entities happen to have the same astrologia lsignatures
the question remains unanswered

you frequently use the word "energy" "energy astrology"

but not providing links to information on the idea
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easy to say but you provide no reasons

ours is an astrological learning forum
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explain to us how "it is written in the stars"
his luna sign in the second cycle of sagitarius is a dead giveaway and his solar in gemini. and he was born on a luna eclipse
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many already noticed that
you need to explain how your numerological methods
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i already did. the intricacies of the explanations will have to be gotten from mystery schools but i gave a general overview of why
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the question remains unanswered

you frequently use the word "energy" "energy astrology"

but not providing links to information on the idea
i already defined it above. check a couple of posts up
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energy astrology quantifies the electromagnetic energy
that runs human bodies and that runs the universe
and how they ebb and rise
and the information they carry
and the quantity each person has and how it can lead to good health
or a disease state etc etc
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there are no websites. these are learned in mystery schools

mystery schools
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his luna sign in the second cycle of sagitarius
is a dead giveaway
and his solar in gemini. and he was born on a luna eclipse
it's common knowledge the chart occurred on a lunar eclipse
also tropical sign is GEMINI is well known
explain the meaning of "the second cycle of sagittarius is a dead give-away"
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i already did. the intricacies of the explanations will have to be gotten from mystery schools but i gave a general overview of why
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i already defined it above. check a couple of posts up
I disagree.

that's not a sufficiently comprehensive cogent defintion
probably attend a "Mystery School" costing considerable sums of money
would provide some kind of "answer"
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mystery schools
it's common knowledge the chart occurred on a lunar eclipse
also tropical sign is GEMINI is well known
explain the meaning of "the second cycle of sagittarius is a dead give-away"
2nd cycle in sagittarius is a loss of power for a warrior type archetype. so america is a warrior nation and it will lose that power as another rises to take its place.
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I disagree.

that's not a sufficiently comprehensive cogent defintion
probably attend a "Mystery School" costing considerable sums of money
would provide some kind of "answer"
lmao i am sure you are wise enough to know that not all methodology can be displayed on a public forum. people get killed for releasing REAL occultic knowledge. but i will try my best to explain as much as i can
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his luna sign in the second cycle of sagitarius is a dead giveaway and his solar in gemini. and he was born on a luna eclipse
Once again, more or less than 300,000 people were born with that same placement. Why is Trump special?
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there are no coincidences in life.
everything is how it is supposed to be.
its a spiritual world which is programmed like a computer
and the physical aspect of it is just a manifestation.
one of the programs is astrology.
and you need the numbers to go with it.
not just houses and aspects
It's a mystery that you won't explain
because
clearly
you learned the mysterious reasons in a mystery school
however
that's just the mysterious opinion of your Mystery School
ours is a non-mysterious beginners astrological learning forum
"energy astrology" appears to be some form of "Other astrology"
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his luna sign in the second cycle of sagitarius is a dead giveaway
and his solar in gemini. and he was born on a luna eclipse
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Once again, more or less than 300,000 people were born with that same placement.

Why is Trump special?

That's a great question
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Once again, more or less than 300,000 people were born with that same placement. Why is Trump special?
he is special because of the circumstances sorrounding him. astrology is not a vacuum endeavor. you relate it to the circumstances sorrounding an entity.like i said before people have different karmic debts even if they are born on the same day and so the karmic debt is what separates a truck driver from a president. and so you will apply the astrology energies to the manifestation of their 3D lives. hope this makes sense
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It's a mystery that you won't explain
because
clearly
you learned the mysterious reasons in a mystery school
however
that's just the mysterious opinion of your Mystery School
ours is a non-mysterious beginners astrological learning forum
"energy astrology" appears to be some form of "Other astrology"
lol well this was about trumps natal chart.
although i am also skilled in medical astrology, twin flame astrology, karmic astrology, natal charts, horary, electional, relocation, . i do about 25 different aspects of astrology.
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I disagree.

that's not a sufficiently comprehensive cogent defintion
probably attend a "Mystery School" costing considerable sums of money
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Trump University, which Trump himself said "is better than any Ivy League university", provided an answer as to Trump's integrity!

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now with energy astrology i can tell you if you will get degenerative diseases like cancer very early on in life and how you can prevent it. some people are astrologically placed to decompose and break down easily after they get past 45 years of age.they will be lucky if they made it past 60 years in life.

twin flame astrology i can tell you if your partner is going to be a battle axe and the relationship dynamics and the energy dynamics in the relationship
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lol well this was about trumps natal chart.
that's hilarius when we focus on the reality that we're using different natal charts !

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now with energy astrology i can tell you if you will get degenerative diseases like cancer very early on in life and how you can prevent it. some people are astrologically placed to decompose and break down easily after they get past 45 years of age.they will be lucky if they made it past 60 years in life.

twin flame astrology i can tell you if your partner is going to be a battle axe and the relationship dynamics and the energy dynamics in the relationship
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although i am also skilled in medical astrology,

twin flame astrology, karmic astrology, natal charts, horary,
electional, relocation, .
i do about 25 different aspects of astrology.

albeit somewhat mysteriously
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he is special because of the circumstances sorrounding him. astrology is not a vacuum endeavor. you relate it to the circumstances sorrounding an entity.like i said before people have different karmic debts even if they are born on the same day and so the karmic debt is what separates a truck driver from a president. and so you will apply the astrology energies to the manifestation of their 3D lives. hope this makes sense
deja vu

already asked for explanations

told it's a mystery
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that's hilarius when we focus on the reality that we're using different natal charts !


albeit somewhat mysteriously
lol all am doing is using mystery school methodology. meaning a natal chart must be synced with UNIVERSAL TIME. GODS time is UNIVERSAL
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deja vu

already asked for explanations

told it's a mystery
alright let me explain it simply. there are two entities. entity one is a serial murderer in past life and entity two is an adulterer. they are both born on the same day in this life. however entity 1 has much karmic debt so he may be like say a dish washer in this life while entity two will be say like a school teacher. see how the karmic debt separated their positions in life ? however their energy astrological signatures are the same so similar things will happen to them within the context of who they are. for example lets say the energy signature is ' you will peak very early and then the rest of your life will be full of stress and troubles '. that energy signature will be manifested within his life as a dish washer and the others life as a teacher. hope this makes sense. astrological similarity brings about similar energy signatures not similar lives.
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lol all am doing is using mystery school methodology.
meaning a natal chart must be synced with UNIVERSAL TIME.
GODS time is UNIVERSAL
strange that you consider universal time aka UT a mystery
even free software programs calculate universal time automatally
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alright let me explain it simply. there are two entities. entity one is a serial murderer in past life and entity two is an adulterer. they are both born on the same day in this life. however entity 1 has much karmic debt so he may be like say a dish washer in this life while entity two will be say like a school teacher. see how the karmic debt separated their positions in life ? however their energy astrological signatures are the same so similar things will happen to them within the context of who they are. for example lets say the energy signature is ' you will peak very early and then the rest of your life will be full of stress and troubles '. that energy signature will be manifested within his life as a dish washer and the others life as a teacher. hope this makes sense. astrological similarity brings about similar energy signatures not similar lives.
What did this nation do in the past, to deserve to suffer through Trump's Presidency?
Well, not difficult to ascertain: Ask an indigenous native of this continent, and a descendant of the Africans who were enslaved here.
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The US is a Cancerian country and the sign ruled by the moon, the tendency for the moon to start with a waxing crescent, first quarter, waxing gibbous, full moon, waning gibbous, last quarter and waning crescent, to represent a cycle of a rise, peak, fall and renewal of a thing, such as a society and a country. The US may not last forever, but we were the greatest country to ever existed in world history. We're the only nation to send humans to land on the moon (Cancer's ruler) on 6 NASA landings (July 20, 1969 and 5 more from Dec 1969-Dec 1972).

It is debated on the nature of the US as a Gemini or Sagittarius country (our president's sun in Gemini opposite moon in Sagittarius) and in parans chart, when Cancer is in descendant, we're going to be a lot Aries. The moon sign on our declaration of independence on July 4, 1776 was in Aquarius (sidereal Capricorn). America has a strong military (Aries), great technology (Gemini), strong patriotism (Cancer), prosperity (Sagittarius) and liberalism (Aquarius). The moon is said to be exalted in Capricorn, July 4, 1776 was after a full moon.
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