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You know, I’ve noticed a lot of blacks being racist towards whites. Racism can happen to anyone regardless of skin color. And people who think racism only happens to certain races are racist themselves.

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Does that count for black people who make racist comments about whites and other races?
What about Asians or Jews who make racist comments?

Who is going to judge what is a racist comment and who are they going to snitch it too?



We are at the beginning of a totalitarian state where people can be indicted for their thoughts and comments by their own family. Will they go around recording and videotaping their racist family members, neighbours and friends or do we just believe a person is racist because their Uncle Joe says so.

Lives can be destroyed with snitching and for what? To appease the violent, terrorist BLM group? Who are the most racist organization that don't care about black children being shot in the streets for they want to destroy the police that protects them. BLM had nothing to say when gang-bangers opened gunfire at a funeral for a homicide victim. 15 people injured.

Crickets can be heard from BLM and the Black, Woke Democrat Chicago Mayor. She is completely unhinged if she doesn't think shooting at a funeral in broad daylight needs to be stopped.

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I think you're projecting too far into the future. Sat/Plu/Jup in Cap will be over by next year.

Trump's joke about how he can be President for 4 terms "if he likes it enough" encouraged the overly long projections.

My main long-term concern is the sudden increase in the ability of Federal authorities to occupy cities at will, regardless of the wishes of Governors and Mayors. That's the result of the 9/11 attacks, which caused the creation of the "Department of Homeland Security ". I and many others thought it was an ominous development at the time, and even more so now.

These shootings In Chicago appear to be mostly random, anonymous, drive-bys, which are typically done by drug-gangs.

Interesting that the violence is what's making it possible for the Federal government to exercise authority over the cities and States.

It's not about race, it's about a Fascist takeover of America, if we don't see it for what it is.

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My point is that BLM don't care about black on black crime which kills thousands every year. That's racist and BLM is mostly made up of young, white men so it's a racist group.

The protests are mainly violent. Here is just one on Friday, 49 police officers injured, some of them seriously.


Many of the police officers being targeted and attacked are black, hispanic and asian.


According to you and others, BLM is a peaceful organization concerned with helping the lives of black citizens.

They are the opposite. Violent mob Marxists who want to overthrow the democracy by creating carnage, chaos and death.


https://youtu.be/U1VdhQbfSTY


Law-abiding black communities want more police. They are being left vulnerable with BLM goal of police defunding.
Trump is standing up for those who are powerless and are asking for help. Black Clergy want help for their communities.


Family of slain 13-year-old Chicago girl welcomes help of federal agents.

https://youtu.be/IIzsbrO_9Kc



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These shootings In Chicago appear to be mostly random, anonymous, drive-bys, which are typically done by drug-gangs.

Interesting that the violence is what's making it possible for the Federal government to exercise authority over the cities and States.

It's not about race, it's about a Fascist takeover of America, if we don't see it for what it is.

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My point is that BLM don't care about black on black crime which kills thousands every year. That's racist and BLM is mostly made up of young, white men so it's a racist group.

The protests are mainly violent. Here is just one on Friday, 49 police officers injured, some of them seriously.


Many of the police officers being targeted and attacked are black, hispanic and asian.


According to you and others, BLM is a peaceful organization concerned with helping the lives of black citizens.

They are the opposite. Violent mob Marxists who want to overthrow the democracy by creating carnage, chaos and death.


https://youtu.be/U1VdhQbfSTY


Law-abiding black communities want more police. They are being left vulnerable with BLM goal of police defunding.
Trump is standing up for those who are powerless and are asking for help. Black Clergy want help for their communities.


Family of slain 13-year-old Chicago girl welcomes help of federal agents.

https://youtu.be/IIzsbrO_9Kc
Nihilistic anarchists are making a Federal, fascistic takeover of this country a possibility. Agent provocateurs shouldn't be ruled out either.
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That was unnecesary though.

You also didn't move the post from aquarius7000, which automatically removes the context from my post.
Initially, I did. Then I moved it back because I realized how suitable it was for where she posted it. Then you made a similar response in the other thread, so the discussion followed there.

I put that note in your post to help clarify the context.

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Good for pointing that out Dirius.
The Communists and Marxists seek to destroy the family unit in order that people will turn to THEM and became part of the STATEHOOD family.

Children in Vietnam were ordered to snitch on their parents and neighbours were ordered to snitch on their neighbours and friends.
It creates a culture of fear and intimidation where nobody feels safe, not in their own family. BLM is a radical Marxist movement and destroying the family goes along with them destroying the history of the country and the law enforcement that brings law and order. BLM thrives on chaos, fear and all the usual terrorist tactics deployed by totalitarian regimes.

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Blackbery, this is just way over the top. As far as children being encouraged to snitch on the parents goes, one of the most serious offenders in the past century was Hitler's Germany. (An extreme right-wing form of government.)

Or we might look at how the US implemented regime change in Chile in 1973, to prop up right wing dictator Pinochet, which included massacring both Chilean and foreign nationals suspected of Marxist sympathies, along with serious human rights violations. Thousands were "disappeared."

My daughter spent 2.5 years in communist Vietnam as a teacher in an international school. She found it to be a poor country, but not so politically oppressive as you make out. It is not North Korea.

I spent almost a year in a country with a socialist government back in the 1980s: Israel. Lord knows this country had (and has) serious problems, but to a non-Palestinian long-term visitor like myself, nobody was turning family members into a secret police. The Kibbutz system tried to implement an experiment on raising children collectively, but this wasn't so popular, and certainly parents and children got together routinely.

You fear people with so little political power that they resort to demonstrations. Where are the communists in the American corridors or power?

Please disabuse yourself of your repeated incorrect belief that the majority of Black Lives Matter supporters are Marxists. We've been over this before.

The New York Post, btw, is a seriously right-wing newspaper not known for its objectivity.
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Blackbery, this is just way over the top. As far as children being encouraged to snitch on the parents goes, one of the most serious offenders in the past century was Hitler's Germany. (An extreme right-wing form of government.)
Nazim and fascism were left-wing ideologies.

They called themselves national socialists for a reason. These movements originate in Germany's and Italy's marxist worker's party. They believed in government taking control of the economy and being responsible for providing health-care, and social equality (among ethnical germans), etc.

Hitler made constant attacks against capitalism, against democracy and against republican values. Mussolini himself was a member of the marxist party before he created his own.

The diference between fascist and communists, was the former upheld nationalistic values and wanted a mixed economy (directed by the state but with private property), while the latter wanted a global union of workers (regardless of race) and a centrally planned economy (stalinism).

They were both within the marxist spectrum - just different. These were not right-wing ideologies.

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Blackbery, this is just way over the top. As far as children being encouraged to snitch on the parents goes, one of the most serious offenders in the past century was Hitler's Germany. (An extreme right-wing form of government.)
Or we might look at how the US implemented regime change in Chile in 1973, to prop up right wing dictator Pinochet, which included massacring both Chilean and foreign nationals suspected of Marxist sympathies, along with serious human rights violations. Thousands were "disappeared."
Pinochet destroyed left-wing armed terrorist militias that killed innocent people, and saw to establish a cuban style government, with the approval of then president Salvador Allende.

Pinochet, in his lifetime, had a lot of support from normal chilean citizens. He still does today.
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More mob violence from the BLM Marxists in solidarity with their violent comrades in Portland and NY and other cities.

Seattle police arrested at least 45 people after declaring Saturday's protest a riot due to extensive damage inflicted on businesses and the East Precinct.

Thousands of people gathered Saturday afternoon to march through Capitol Hill and protest police brutality and stand in solidarity with protests that have been happening nightly in Portland.

Rioters entered a construction site at the center and set fire to portable trailers and other equipment, and broke windows on personal vehicles in the area and court facilities.

The group continued to march toward the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, damaging businesses along the way, including breaking nearly all the windows at the Starbucks on 12th Avenue and E Columbia Street.

Seattle police said several people emerged from the group and started spray-painting and trying to disable the security cameras at the East Precinct at 12th Avenue and East Pine Street.


That's just one city in one night. So I'm waiting on you and Way Bread to finally admit that BLM is a Marxist organization and that the protests are not 'largely peaceful' as you both keep claiming. Will you both admit that Trump is right to send in Federal Troops to stop the carnage, destruction and mayhem.

Will you both finally admit that targeting police officers on the actions of a few bad apples is wrong, unjust, unreasonable and barbaric?





Authorities said rocks, bottles and fireworks were thrown at officers.




I expect to hear crickets in regard to your condemnation of the BLM violent mob action.








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Nihilistic anarchists are making a Federal, fascistic takeover of this country a possibility. Agent provocateurs shouldn't be ruled out either.

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This trumped up violence is a convenient excuse to send Federal Agents into civilian areas despite the expressed rejection by State officials. The same federal Department that's invading cities is going to "oversee" the Nov. elections!

Ronald Reagan had a line about this: "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
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Dirius, you are making some common errors.

On "socialism" in the name of Hitler's Naitonal Socialist Party, read:
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/182838...brooks-gohmert

"Socialism" was a common word in German political parties in his day. Hitler himself opposed trade unions and communism. He wrote:

Fascism offers us a model that we can absolutely replicate! As it is in the case of Fascism, the entrepreneurs and the workers of our National Socialist state sit side by side, equal in rights, the state strongly intervenes in the case of conflict to impose its decision and end economic disputes that put the life of the nation in danger.”

What Hitler offered was a cult of personality that positioned himself as the invincible Leader, a way out of the Depression and rampant inflation, and a belief in German superiority as an antidote to defeat in WW I and the humilation of the Treaty of Versailles.

It's hard to explain Germany's war against Stalin's Russia if Germany were somehow a political comrade.

Right-wing dictators do attract their followers, do they not? Never mind the body count. Cf. Franco in Spain. As well as left-wing dictators (Cf. Ho Chi Minh.) It becomes part of a national mythology. Really, it's just an ancient longing for a Strong Man form of governance.

Unfortunately, as Lord Acton noted, "Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
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More mob violence from the BLM Marxists in solidarity with their violent comrades in Portland and NY and other cities.

Seattle police arrested at least 45 people after declaring Saturday's protest a riot due to extensive damage inflicted on businesses and the East Precinct.

Thousands of people gathered Saturday afternoon to march through Capitol Hill and protest police brutality and stand in solidarity with protests that have been happening nightly in Portland.

Rioters entered a construction site at the center and set fire to portable trailers and other equipment, and broke windows on personal vehicles in the area and court facilities.

The group continued to march toward the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct, damaging businesses along the way, including breaking nearly all the windows at the Starbucks on 12th Avenue and E Columbia Street.

Seattle police said several people emerged from the group and started spray-painting and trying to disable the security cameras at the East Precinct at 12th Avenue and East Pine Street.

That's just one city in one night. So I'm waiting on you and Way Bread to finally admit that BLM is a Marxist organization and that the protests are not 'largely peaceful' as you both keep claiming. Will you both admit that Trump is right to send in Federal Troops to stop the carnage, destruction and mayhem.

Will you both finally admit that targeting police officers on the actions of a few bad apples is wrong, unjust, unreasonable and barbaric?



Authorities said rocks, bottles and fireworks were thrown at officers.

I expect to hear crickets in regard to your condemnation of the BLM violent mob action.
Blackbery, it would be helpful if you actually read my posts. Even more so if you recalled them.

Nowhere have I condoned violence. I have spoken out against it.

I might just quibble that spray-painting a federal building is vandalism, not violence.

I could turn the tables and argue that you seem mighty unconcerned when innocent Black Americans die through police brutality.

You seem not to have followed the news about more protests showing up in places like Omaha, Nebraska. Federal agents are inflaming the problem, not calming it. Oh, and what about Leaf Blower Dads and the Wall of Moms?

Violence can come from any political persuasion. (Except, I suppose, pacifism and the non-violent protests of Ghandi and MLK.) In the US today, anarchists-- who oppose any form of government control are one sort; and the Antifa crowd engage in violence. But let's not forget the history of the far-right Ku Kux Klan, and the conspiracy theorists who even today preach that school shootings never happened. The NRA has a lot to answer for.

State-sponsored violence exists, as well, on both the right and the left.

Do you actually understand what Marxism is?? It doesn't seem like it.

Do you know what historical materialism is? How about the dialectical process and how class relations define the economic process? What does it mean "to control the means of production"? Whom did Marx mean by "the proletariat"? What is the labor theory of value? What is meant by "alienation" from one's labor?

If you cannot answer these questions, than I respectfully submit that you do not know what Marxism actually stands for.

Not to mention the fact that espousing Marxism is protected under the Constitution. Which I assume you uphold.
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Dirius, you are making some common errors.

On "socialism" in the name of Hitler's Naitonal Socialist Party, read:
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/182838...brooks-gohmert

"Socialism" was a common word in German political parties in his day. Hitler himself opposed trade unions and communism. He wrote:

Fascism offers us a model that we can absolutely replicate! As it is in the case of Fascism, the entrepreneurs and the workers of our National Socialist state sit side by side, equal in rights, the state strongly intervenes in the case of conflict to impose its decision and end economic disputes that put the life of the nation in danger.”

What Hitler offered was a cult of personality that positioned himself as the invincible Leader, a way out of the Depression and rampant inflation, and a belief in German superiority as an antidote to defeat in WW I and the humilation of the Treaty of Versailles.

It's hard to explain Germany's war against Stalin's Russia if Germany were somehow a political comrade.

Right-wing dictators do attract their followers, do they not? Never mind the body count. Cf. Franco in Spain. As well as left-wing dictators (Cf. Ho Chi Minh.) It becomes part of a national mythology. Really, it's just an ancient longing for a Strong Man form of governance.

Unfortunately, as Lord Acton noted, "Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
I'm sorry waybread but again you are blinded by your own ideology

As I mentioned fascism is part of the left-wing spectrum.

Mussolini was a marxist. He worked on the marxist paper. The entire ideology is based upon a strong centralised economy managed by the government.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...m-1186455.html

It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too. The title of National Socialism was not hypocritical. The evidence before 1945 was more private than public, which is perhaps significant in itself. In public Hitler was always anti-Marxist, and in an age in which the Soviet Union was the only socialist state on earth, and with anti-Bolshevism a large part of his popular appeal, he may have been understandably reluctant to speak openly of his sources. His megalomania, in any case, would have prevented him from calling himself anyone's disciple.

Its actually not hard. First of all the Soviet Union and Germany were initially allies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloto...ibbentrop_Pact

However even though they were left-wingers, they were separate ideologies. Not uncommon for them to go to war.
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"Cult of Personality" is the MAJOR factor in why Trump has so many devoted followers.

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Black Lives Matter doesn't even HAVE a designated Leader, much less a Leader with a cult following. The 3 founders of the movement have stepped out of the way, and have allowed it to take its own course.

We all know what the slogan is really about. It has NOTHING to do with a "Marxist Revolution".
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[Snarky Remark Alert]

Donald Trump, unlike Presidents of the past 100 years, doesn't have even one dog.

The reason: He doesn't need an unquestionably loyal, worshipful pet--he has his followers!
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These 3 women are witches. Real witches. All three of these "founder's" are from the black skull and bones secret society. Sigma Pi Phi. Or the gatekeepers to the 9 roundtable boule society. There are 16 principles or points of demonic possession inside the Odu Ifa society and in turn there are 16 chapters of the blm. No coincidence. Who are rooted in the indian thuggee secret society. Who worshiped kali, and those 3 founders of Thuggee in sanskrit names meant. Bheram Black or the dark one, lavith lives, moorti matter. Hence why bangers consider themselves thugs or decivers. Why so, the devil himself,Soros, who was obsessed with Hindu folklore, wanted to decompose the black race.. given the movement from the devil because they did not want a repeat of the 1960's. So he created Blm. Black live MATTER as in a mass a living disposable organism, a waste fecal matter. Giving them the mentality of what they are and not who they are. They are not empowered, they are made to feel less than. Why they want to remove police, black on black crime and abortion running rampant. black folks are just being used as a psyop to destory each other and the black race. By referring themselves to African is a hex. Siphio Afrikanas changed the name from Alkebulan which meant the garden of eden. Afriknas was a slave owner, spirit cooker, pedophile. This nation was founded on equal opportunity not equal outcome. Quit blaming trump as a great divider. Point your finger at the devil himself soros, aka george schwartz, Alicia Garza who's real name is alicia Schwartz. Nothing is what is seems to be. Soros life mission is to see America destroyed and divided. Many black Americans are waking up to the demonrats making them feel suppressed oppressed and less than. Making empty promises to get their vote. All the social justice warriors who follows the ideology of white fragility are intellectually ignorant.
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If Soros wants to destroy the U.S., it actually makes sense that he would fund BLM, which is having the result of helping Trump get reelected. Same with Maxists, who also see another Trump Presidency as hastening the end of the U.S. under the Constitution.

However, the Department of Homeland Security is now in position to decide the final vote tally on its own, and no telling if it wants 4 more years of division and chaos under Trump, or a return to normality under Biden.
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Soros hates trump and America. Using the blm to destroy America and point the blame back to trump. As if it is his fault. When trump has done more for black americans since Lincoln.
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In your opinion, is the violent result of the BLM helping or hurting Trump's chances for a 2nd term?
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In your opinion, is the violent result of the BLM helping or hurting Trump's chances for a 2nd term?
From MANY I have spoke with, the lack of leadership within their own cities are turning them off. With the quote " if you dont vote for me, you ain't black." As if black folks are not free to think for themselves. In addition to another quote "police are the enemies." Many black Americans want to see more police presence in the hood. So i think many involved in the movement are hurting themselves.
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One of three women, Alicia Garza, has publicly refused to condemn the violence. That's despite the claim she and the other 2 founders made that BLM was originally intended to be peaceful.I

It was also supposed to be a women's movement. But in the 2016 Election, before it became well known, BLM refused to endorse a woman for President. Not supporting HRC was equivalent to supporting Trump.

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From MANY I have spoke with, the lack of leadership within their own cities are turning them off. With the quote " if you dont vote for me, you ain't black." As if black folks are not free to think for themselves. In addition to another quote "police are the enemies." Many black Americans want to see more police presence in the hood. So i think many involved in the movement are hurting themselves.
The leaders of BLM are getting what they want: More support for Trump.
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Their endorsement is sanders/warren. Follow the money trail. Blm donations are funneled through Actblue. Biden/sanders /Warren.
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Their endorsement is sanders/warren. Follow the money trail. Blm donations are funneled through Actblue. Biden/sanders /Warren.
You're assuming that BLM donations are being funneled to the Biden campaign. ActBlue doesn't pool the donations it distributes. They go directly to whatever group the donation is designated for.
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