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Yes, very favourably. The upperclass are thoroughly Americanized.

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Yes, very favourably. The upperclass are thoroughly Americanized.
How would you describe "Americanized", from your own viewing point?

How is it different from the regular Jamaican culture?

I'm trying to get a more objective view of what's going on in this country.

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It's a bittersweet Solstice. Ordinarily I'd be at a lovely party right now. No parties allowed this year.

On a nicer note, I just saw the grand conjunction! Jupiter looks so big and Saturn so small next to it.

What rough beast is slouching towards Bethlehem to be born?
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It's a bittersweet Solstice. Ordinarily I'd be at a lovely party right now. No parties allowed this year.

On a nicer note, I just saw the grand conjunction! Jupiter looks so big and Saturn so small next to it.

What rough beast is slouching towards Bethlehem to be born?
I've been watching them come closer for a few weeks.

On Saturday evening, they appeared to be touching, with fainter and smaller Saturn sitting right on top of Jupiter's head!

Are they going to converge, and look like one planet?

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On Saturday evening, they appeared to be touching, with fainter and smaller Saturn sitting right on top of Jupiter's head!

Are they going to converge, and look like one planet?
I thought they would. But isn't this the exact conjunction right now?

Actually, I thought they would look like the star of Bethlehem on a Christmas card. Something like this: https://www.ncregister.com/cna/is-th...r-of-bethlehem

And I'm sure everyone's heard by now that the original star of Bethlehem may have been the same grand conjunction in the year 7 BCE.

Maybe grand conjunctions were brighter back then. No light pollution.
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I thought they would. But isn't this the exact conjunction right now?

Actually, I thought they would look like the star of Bethlehem on a Christmas card. Something like this: https://www.ncregister.com/cna/is-th...r-of-bethlehem

And I'm sure everyone's heard by now that the original star of Bethlehem may have been the same grand conjunction in the year 7 BCE.

Maybe grand conjunctions were brighter back then. No light pollution.
11 hours from now. It will be daylight where I am.
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Some think it was Halley's Comet, 11 B.C.E.
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Some think it was Halley's Comet.
I went to a planetarium show as a kid that was all about the Christmas star and the scientific theories on what it was. I don't remember a conjunction of planets being on the list, but they floated nova, super nova, and comet. They said the wise men would've probably run the other way if they'd seen a comet, because those were considered bad omens.

That was around the time Hailey's Comet was coming around. People were talking about comets a lot.
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11 hours from now. It will be daylight where I am.
Me too. I think we're in the same corner of the earth.
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J.A. has replied to J.A. about 16,000 times on the Random Presidential Thoughts thread!

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I went to a planetarium show as a kid that was all about the Christmas star and the scientific theories on what it was. I don't remember a conjunction of planets being on the list, but they floated nova, super nova, and comet. They said the wise men would've probably run the other way if they'd seen a comet, because those were considered bad omens.

That was around the time Hailey's Comet was coming around. People were talking about comets a lot.
I like the nova for this. They seem to appear from nowhere because the pre-nova star is usually too faint to see, unaided. Then, they fade away within a few days or so.
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Italian artist Giotto saw Halley's Comet in 1301, and used it to depict the Star of Bethlehem in his painting "Adoration of the Magi".
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Had a customer call confused because he had not received his sms reminder service. He said he was a ‘creature of habit’ and Covid has ruined everything. He was middle-aged but I suspected he was perhaps struggling with the new Age of Aquarius energies, or the introduction to it, anyway, since Jupiter hasn’t met the Sun yet.

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Winter Solstice 10 hours ago.

Grand / Conjunction NOW.
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From Twin Cities Science Assoc:
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6 BC Feb Jupiter and Saturn in Pisces, this time with Mars –



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This conjunction is right on my Neptune, time to let lose with drugs
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Osamenor has a lovely post on the 21st December thread about why this conjunction is unusual. It reminds me of a question that frequently bugs me: what is the easy way to check parallel and contraparallel aspects? I don’t run any fancy paid programs anymore and last I checked it’s not an option at Astro.com
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This conjunction is right on my Neptune, time to let lose with drugs
You’re losing drugs? What a strange affect of the conjunction indeed
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Osamenor has a lovely post on the 21st December thread about why this conjunction is unusual. It reminds me of a question that frequently bugs me: what is the easy way to check parallel and contraparallel aspects? I don’t run any fancy paid programs anymore and last I checked it’s not an option at Astro.com
Actually, it's there. When you're viewing the astro chart there is an area on the page that says additional tables. If you click it, you'll be able to see the declinations of all the planets and houses that you have active. On mobile, there will be a drop-down box that appears when you click the "PDF" icon and you'll be able to find the additional tables hyperlink from there.
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He's on drugs! Typos are to be expected.
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That is fantastic c.t, thank you! You have to look for the aspects manually though, and there’s no way to visualise it, right? The lockdowns have thoroughly exhausted everyone’s eyes on mobile (and their data allowances), surely, not just mine.
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Not from my special astrologers they are....
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How would you describe "Americanized", from your own viewing point?

How is it different from the regular Jamaican culture?

I'm trying to get a more objective view of what's going on in this country.
Through the affluents' access to technology and infrastructure, they are more easily influenced by American culture through media channels. Movies, music, TV shows, internet and such make it easy to assimilate American mores, speech patterns, styles, philosophical attitudes, preferences, food choices.

An example is that the average child that goes to an expensive private school know more about American fast food menus than traditional Jamaican meals -- they become familiar through social study classes (don't know if you folks have that one in your schools but it's like civics)

There are similarities between the two countries. Both have a British heritage and both are melting pots of different peoples who became greater than the sum total of their parts -- the motto of the nation is "Out of Many, One People". So you could say that there were already areas where an American message could easily permeate.
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That is fantastic c.t, thank you! You have to look for the aspects manually though, and there’s no way to visualise it, right? The lockdowns have thoroughly exhausted everyone’s eyes on mobile (and their data allowances), surely, not just mine.
Yep, it's all manual and you'll have to visualise those aspects in your imagination. But it does raise interesting questions regarding certain disputes that face astrological practice, like out-of-sign aspects. A planet could be close in declination as well as longitudinally conjunct, yet because it is on the border of signs certain quarters of the astro community would not count it. Visually, it's literally in the same area of the sky, yet it won't count because zodiacally the planets are in signs where modality and element are different -- putting two primary tenets of traditional astrology in direct conflict.
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Through the affluents' access to technology and infrastructure, they are more easily influenced by American culture through media channels. Movies, music, TV shows, internet and such make it easy to assimilate American mores, speech patterns, styles, philosophical attitudes, preferences, food choices.

An example is that the average child that goes to an expensive private school know more about American fast food menus than traditional Jamaican meals -- they become familiar through social study classes (don't know if you folks have that one in your schools but it's like civics)

There are similarities between the two countries. Both have a British heritage and both are melting pots of different peoples who became greater than the sum total of their parts -- the motto of the nation is "Out of Many, One People". So you could say that there were already areas where an American message could easily permeate.
Right. Ours is "E Pluribus Unum".

Just hypothetically, what sort of reaction would someone wearing a red MAGA cap get in most places in Jamaica?

Might make for an interesting video.

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