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12-14-2020, 09:53 PM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Because they check the logs: the "mistakes" they mention are those that occured during election night.
A forensic analysis isn't something simple. And anyone can review their results and challenge them.
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Let's see if anyone even bothers. Right now, it's just believe them or not, which will be on a partisan basis.
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12-14-2020, 09:55 PM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Right-wing headline: "Firm that conducted 'audit' of Dominion voting machines in Georgia has long history with the company."
This was intended to cast aspersions on the arrived at conclusion that the machine counts were accurate.
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Same as this ^ audit, which apparently wasn't challenged. And that was when it still mattered, before the State officially designated Biden as the winner of the State's Electors.
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12-14-2020, 11:07 PM
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Re: Trump Lost!
It's Official: Biden has won in the Electoral College.
All Electors voted according to their State's popular vote, and there were no rogue Electors
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12-14-2020, 11:13 PM
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Re: Trump Lost!
Next psycho drama will be January 6th, 2021, when Vice President Pence will be forced, whining and crying, to announce that Joe Biden will be Inaugurated on Jan. 20th.
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12-14-2020, 11:23 PM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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It's a symbolic, ceremonial, make-believe gesture.
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12-14-2020, 11:58 PM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Next psycho drama will be January 6th, 2021, when Vice President Pence will be forced, whining and crying, to announce that Joe Biden will be Inaugurated on Jan. 20th.
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He might manage that without whining and crying. It's Trump who wouldn't.
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12-15-2020, 12:00 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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He might manage that without whining and crying. It's Trump who wouldn't.
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Trump will be bellowing and stomping his feet.
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12-15-2020, 12:03 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
Powerful Republican Senators Lindsey Graham and Roy Blunt just publicly acknowledged Biden as President Elect.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said that he'll accept the Electoral College Vote, but no response yet.
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12-15-2020, 02:30 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
The Republicans can't contest any of the State elections on January 6th without support from Democrats in a full vote in the House. Which is an impossibility in the House, and therefore, not going to happen.
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12-15-2020, 03:19 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
By still keeping false hopes swirling among his most determined supporters, Trump will make $$$millions off of them between now and January 06th.
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12-15-2020, 03:57 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
Actually, it's now 5 key swing states where the GOP Electors voted for President Trump.
So, on Jan 6th, there will be 'dueling' electors! Quite unprecedented. Nobody really knows what will happen, I've just listened to a good, unbiased lawyer on YT who goes into great detail about what the possible outcome.
One of them being that NO candidate receives the 270 Electoral Votes & it goes to a contingent election.
If no candidate for president receives an absolute majority of the electoral votes, pursuant to the 12th Amendment, the House of Representatives is required to go into session immediately to choose a president from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes.
It is one vote per state & the Republicans have the majority in this case!
Meanwhile, #Trump #SupremeCourt #Dominion
13 Lawsuits Advancing Towards Supreme Court
It is far from over.  
#fakenews #election2020 #electionanalysis
Electors Vote & Bill Barr Resigns, Antrim Forensic Audit Report, Supreme Court Rulings
https://youtu.be/sdHpOprFofY
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12-15-2020, 04:05 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
AND...remember the E.O. Trump signed in 2018....45 days from the election is Dec 18th....plenty of time before the inauguration on Jan 20th!
This CANNOT arbitrarily throw out the election, even if overseas fraud as the election is a domestic matter......BUT it will certainly give the GOP Electors the evidence they need to keep their votes to Trump & denying Beijing Biden the 270 E.V.
Trump is following the Constitution & will bring him Victory in the end.
Section 1. (a) Not later than 45 days after the conclusion of a United States election, the Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the heads of any other appropriate executive departments and agencies (agencies), shall conduct an assessment of any information indicating that a foreign government, or any person acting as an agent of or on behalf of a foreign government, has acted with the intent or purpose of interfering in that election.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...ates-election/
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12-15-2020, 04:41 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Actually, it's now 5 key swing states where the GOP Electors voted for President Trump.
So, on Jan 6th, there will be 'dueling' electors! Quite unprecedented. Nobody really knows what will happen, I've just listened to a good, unbiased lawyer on YT who goes into great detail about what the possible outcome.
One of them being that NO candidate receives the 270 Electoral Votes & it goes to a contingent election.
If no candidate for president receives an absolute majority of the electoral votes, pursuant to the 12th Amendment, the House of Representatives is required to go into session immediately to choose a president from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes.
It is one vote per state & the Republicans have the majority in this case!
Meanwhile, #Trump #SupremeCourt #Dominion
13 Lawsuits Advancing Towards Supreme Court
It is far from over.  
#fakenews #election2020 #electionanalysis
Electors Vote & Bill Barr Resigns, Antrim Forensic Audit Report, Supreme Court Rulings
https://youtu.be/sdHpOprFofY
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"Dueling Electors" is unprecedented because there's no provision for that.
It's a fantasy. The only Electors who will matter are those who were officially certified by their respective State canvassers. And, in order to contest any of those Electors is by a full vote in the House, which would obviously vote against that.
The entirely biased and inaccurate Antrim report is being contested by both the State of Michigan and Dominion. It's only real result will be to reinforce the false belief that the Election was somehow "rigged" across the nation.
It IS over for the Presidential Election. All that remains is for the Republicans to try to hold on to their Senate majority in the Georgia runoff elections, January 5th, 2021.
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12-15-2020, 05:07 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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They've just released the dominion machine forensic report. They have a 68% failure rate.
And that is it. Biden did cheat. Now it is unquestionable
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Who's "they" Dirius?
Actually these machines were checked out weeks ago. Across all of the counties and states that used them, Trump actually had more votes tallied than Biden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems
https://www.dominionvoting.com/
Dominion Voting Systems is based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. It's not like they have a personal stake in the outcome of the election. If they leaned towards Biden, it's hard to explain why, across the country, Trump actually got more of their votes.
Hard to imagine Joe Biden personally rigging thousands of voting machines that ended up supporting Trump. I guess he's a busy guy.
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12-15-2020, 05:11 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Its not a question of party-affiliation.
The software either has multiple errors, or it does not.
Its done david. There was fraud.
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No Dirius.
It's time to stop deluding yourself.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ng/6537394002/
I know you dislike reading links, but try this one on the Michigan "controversy."
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12-15-2020, 05:21 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Sure
In the beginning of the thread I said that both republicans and democrats should conduct a conjoined audit of the election.
You are the one who said that wasn't necessary.
I've said it all along: democrats should support a full election audit.
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Dirius, I explained this to you multiple times already.
It costs a lot of money to mount a full recount. Why didn't the Republicans offer to pay for them?
But in reality, the states have their own laws and guidelines for the conduct of recounts. It's not a question of which party wants them. Recounts may or may not be granted, depending upon state law. It looks like the website Ballotpedia has a full list of state laws on recounts.
Here is Arizona: https://ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Arizona
Basically a recount in Arizona is automatic if any candidate wins by a very tiny margin. But the state does not allow recounts by request if one candidate won by a bigger margin.
If billionaire Trump or his cronies wanted a full recount in states that allow recount by request, why didn't they go ahead and pay for it??? Huh???
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12-15-2020, 05:21 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Who's "they" Dirius?
Actually these machines were checked out weeks ago. Across all of the counties and states that used them, Trump actually had more votes tallied than Biden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems
https://www.dominionvoting.com/
Dominion Voting Systems is based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. It's not like they have a personal stake in the outcome of the election. If they leaned towards Biden, it's hard to explain why, across the country, Trump actually got more of their votes.
Hard to imagine Joe Biden personally rigging thousands of voting machines that ended up supporting Trump. I guess he's a busy guy.
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Even more to the point, if Dominion was into rigging the close-vote elections, a perfect target would have been the Georgia Senate races, which were so close they resulted in two runoffs. Why not give Biden a majority in the Senate if they gave him the win for President?
Same goes for those Congressional seats that went to Republicans. Why not prevent that? It just doesn't make sense.
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12-15-2020, 05:30 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
Well, obviously, David, with WWIII on the horizon, a probable military take-over, or Chinese boots on US soil within weeks (take your pick,) those Georgia guys were just too flustered to mind the store with the Georgia Senate race.
Incidentally, that's a sea change, with Sen. Lindsay Graham announcing that Biden did indeed win the election. There are now more than enough Republican senators ready to certify that Biden won the election. (The House already is Democrat-majority, as you know.)
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12-15-2020, 05:38 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Well, obviously, David, with WWIII on the horizon, a probable military take-over, or Chinese boots on US soil within weeks (take your pick,) those Georgia guys were just too flustered to mind the store with the Georgia Senate race.
Incidentally, that's a sea change, with Sen. Lindsay Graham announcing that Biden did indeed win the election. There are now more than enough Republican senators ready to certify that Biden won the election. (The House already is Democrat-majority, as you know.)
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It takes both the House and the Senate to contest, so even if those Republican Senators do an about face, like "You can take me at my word" Lindsey Graham did about not voting for Amy Barrett, it wouldn't matter. Not one Democrat in the House would vote to contest.
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12-15-2020, 05:53 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
Hey y’all how’s it goin
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12-15-2020, 06:09 AM
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Re: Trump Lost!
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Hey y’all how’s it goin
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Have you heard the news? Trump LOST!
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