Homeless Con-Artist

Star Searcher

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[FONT=&quot]Hi.

Some of you may know me as the one who posted previous questions about my Bipolar Boyfriend.

So now I have a new situation,which has been going on for a while. On August 28th, he began another manic episode. On that very same day he attended a writer's workshop, where he met a homeless transgender prostitute. They became fast friends. The following Tuesday they went back to his family's apartment. It was a pre-scheduled trip because his birthday falls on August 31st. His family threw him into the looney bin. During his second week of confinement, the transgender prostitute Facebooked me and told me that she was coming back to my city. That week she was in my apartment on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. For someone who I feel very uneasy about, that is way too much. When my boyfriend came back I lost my temper and told him how much of a nightmare it has been with that trannie around all the time. Over the past few weeks I have put my foot down and told my boyfriend that she cannot come here that frequently and that I can only deal with her coming to my apartment every four to five days. But it is obvious that he had been sneaking her in every other day while I am at work. My long term temp assignment just ended on October 14th. Now that I am home all the time, this will complicate the situation.

Ever since I met her on August 30th, she has kept on telling us outlandish stories about her family background. While I do believe that she is a victim of incest and possible child prostitution (unspoken but this is what I intuit), I find it very difficult to believe that A)her parents are Satanists and she was specifically bred to be a sex slave; B) she was born female but then her parents changed her into male so now she is trying to revert back to female (she is obviously a male to female transgender person); C) she was raised in a shack hidden away from the government so none of the authorities knew she existed (seriously? all governments want to know about every person on their land); D) she never went to school or got home schooled (then how come she knows readin', writin', 'rithmetic, and computers? ) and E) she escaped to America (does this mean she is illegal? why does she speak with a Southern accent?). She also has told us that she has no birth certificate and Social Security ID. I told her that she needs to go to the Russian consulate so they can contact the hospitals of her birth city for the document(s). She absolutely refuses to and claims it is of no use. I think that she hasn't even tried.

What I am most worried about is my security. Is she a con-artist? While my boyfriend was in the hospital(s) she noticed his smartphone lying around and told me that since we have no idea when he is coming back (at that time we didn't) she should have it. While I was at work she rearranged and organized some of my paper clutter (I have a hoarding disorder). Obviously there is a good chance that she have seen some of my personal information.

She keeps on breaching my boundaries. She has swiped a pair of earrings and a bra from my walk-in closet. I don't want the earrings back (it has pierced her lobes) but I am debating whether I should buy her a new bra with falsies so that I can have my old one back. She's been stuffing my bra with face washcloths and it looks lumpy and funny.

She does cook for us whenever she is at my place. But even this has put me at unease. The routine is that she asks me for grocery money so that she can buy ingredients. Often times she asks for additional cash for a second round of shopping. I think that she makes money from these excursions by pocketing the change. One day while he was still hospitalized she asked to have my credit card to get groceries. When I told her that my account was closed due to my debt she looked disappointed.

While most of my worries about my security has been financial, there is a small part of me that is worried about my physical safety. Two of my friends have told me that I am in "grave danger". While I don't see her as capable of giving me a beat down (she's very petite), I think she is involved in sleazy elements. First off, she is a prostitute. Second I overheard her talking on the phone with her on and off ex-boyfriend. She said something similar to "When I become a woman I can come back to you (probably Maryland or Tennessee ) and they won't be looking for us." I have no I idea what she and/or her ex-boyfriend did but she may be on the lam. She has no idea that I overheard part of the conversation. I live in a very small studio apartment so I couldn't help it.

I am uploading her chart. Unfortunately I do not have her birth time. This is the best I can do. I guesstimated her time of birth by reading every short report pertaining to her on Astrodienst and adjusting the birth data time. Let me know if I need to upload my own chart and my boyfriend's chart.

Also feel free to move this thread to a more appropriate sub-forum. Just let me know.

Thank you in advance for your advice.[/FONT]
 

leo468

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[FONT=&quot]Hi.

Some of you may know me as the one who posted previous questions about my Bipolar Boyfriend.

So now I have a new situation,which has been going on for a while. On August 28th, he began another manic episode. On that very same day he attended a writer's workshop, where he met a homeless transgender prostitute. They became fast friends. The following Tuesday they went back to his family's apartment. It was a pre-scheduled trip because his birthday falls on August 31st. His family threw him into the looney bin. During his second week of confinement, the transgender prostitute Facebooked me and told me that she was coming back to my city. That week she was in my apartment on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. For someone who I feel very uneasy about, that is way too much. When my boyfriend came back I lost my temper and told him how much of a nightmare it has been with that trannie around all the time. Over the past few weeks I have put my foot down and told my boyfriend that she cannot come here that frequently and that I can only deal with her coming to my apartment every four to five days. But it is obvious that he had been sneaking her in every other day while I am at work. My long term temp assignment just ended on October 14th. Now that I am home all the time, this will complicate the situation.

Ever since I met her on August 30th, she has kept on telling us outlandish stories about her family background. While I do believe that she is a victim of incest and possible child prostitution (unspoken but this is what I intuit), I find it very difficult to believe that A)her parents are Satanists and she was specifically bred to be a sex slave; B) she was born female but then her parents changed her into male so now she is trying to revert back to female (she is obviously a male to female transgender person); C) she was raised in a shack hidden away from the government so none of the authorities knew she existed (seriously? all governments want to know about every person on their land); D) she never went to school or got home schooled (then how come she knows readin', writin', 'rithmetic, and computers? ) and E) she escaped to America (does this mean she is illegal? why does she speak with a Southern accent?). She also has told us that she has no birth certificate and Social Security ID. I told her that she needs to go to the Russian consulate so they can contact the hospitals of her birth city for the document(s). She absolutely refuses to and claims it is of no use. I think that she hasn't even tried.

What I am most worried about is my security. Is she a con-artist? While my boyfriend was in the hospital(s) she noticed his smartphone lying around and told me that since we have no idea when he is coming back (at that time we didn't) she should have it. While I was at work she rearranged and organized some of my paper clutter (I have a hoarding disorder). Obviously there is a good chance that she have seen some of my personal information.

She keeps on breaching my boundaries. She has swiped a pair of earrings and a bra from my walk-in closet. I don't want the earrings back (it has pierced her lobes) but I am debating whether I should buy her a new bra with falsies so that I can have my old one back. She's been stuffing my bra with face washcloths and it looks lumpy and funny.

She does cook for us whenever she is at my place. But even this has put me at unease. The routine is that she asks me for grocery money so that she can buy ingredients. Often times she asks for additional cash for a second round of shopping. I think that she makes money from these excursions by pocketing the change. One day while he was still hospitalized she asked to have my credit card to get groceries. When I told her that my account was closed due to my debt she looked disappointed.

While most of my worries about my security has been financial, there is a small part of me that is worried about my physical safety. Two of my friends have told me that I am in "grave danger". While I don't see her as capable of giving me a beat down (she's very petite), I think she is involved in sleazy elements. First off, she is a prostitute. Second I overheard her talking on the phone with her on and off ex-boyfriend. She said something similar to "When I become a woman I can come back to you (probably Maryland or Tennessee ) and they won't be looking for us." I have no I idea what she and/or her ex-boyfriend did but she may be on the lam. She has no idea that I overheard part of the conversation. I live in a very small studio apartment so I couldn't help it.

I am uploading her chart. Unfortunately I do not have her birth time. This is the best I can do. I guesstimated her time of birth by reading every short report pertaining to her on Astrodienst and adjusting the birth data time. Let me know if I need to upload my own chart and my boyfriend's chart.

Also feel free to move this thread to a more appropriate sub-forum. Just let me know.

Thank you in advance for your advice.[/FONT]

here's no chart attached
 

Star Searcher

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Sorry! My bad. I think that it must have signed itself out. I'm trying again but just like last time it keeps on saying something like "You have already signed in. Please hit back button and refresh". This time I clicked on the exit "X" on the top right corner, without signing out. I then pulled back up this page from my History.

So here is her natal chart. I hope it posts.
 

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Star Searcher

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Whoops. I think I just reported my own post.

Where is the button that notifies you of replies via your email? Replies come slowly on this forum since people spend time creating and analyzing charts before they answer.
 

katydid

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With the Sun being the Midpoint of her Mars/Pluto opposition, I do think it is possible she could lash out physically. Not necessarily, but it is a possibility.

The Mars in Taurus with the difficult aspects to Pluto and Sun can indicate the urge for revenge and over reactions. :ninja:
 

rahu

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hi star

skylar does have so sexual aspects that would fir her profession and alledged history.
mars is square to orcus and opposed to Sappho. this is a instinctual sexual aspect and would go along with sexual abuse and a temperament for prostitution. mars is conjunct to sedan and and with the Sappho opposition, this could explain her predilection for the female persona. sedan tends to give a direct and honest attitude so it makes sense he is inclined to be a she.
as to the perverted family history, this could b attributed to the orcus/mars midpoint square to nessus. this is a sexually exploitive and incestual impulse.
with nessus sextile to ixion ,one could see the connection to organized exploitation or "criminal" familial scenarios as she has stated.
the sun forms a tsquare with the eros/pluto opposition which again shows a instinctual and carnal sexual environment. this would be in keeping wit her story.
with the psyche/eris midpoint conjunct the north node and juno conjunct the south node, the exploration by family is again likely. this aspect can also give the perverse enjoyment of the economic gains of her profession.
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the Saturn/Neptune conjunction gives a complex and complicated personality structure which can be deceptive but as this conjunction is trine to sedna and mars and sextile to, it is not clear she is totally deceptive.
the sun/pluto midpoint is conjunct to Uranus which can show the possibility of violent actions ,so that can not be ruled out. but there are quite a few trines in her chart which might mitigate the violent tendency.
I think a composite of you and her would answer your question about her possible violence directed at you.
the node/nessus midpoint is conjuct to Lilith which tends to substantiate her sexual stories. the transitting north node is currently over her Lilith,et.al. so I would think her actions would reflect the stress of her personal history right now.and with the juno/nessus midpoint also being affected in th epast months,she likely is inclined to taking monetary advantage of her situation. but as I said it is not clear to me that she is dangerous , but the nessus/node midpoint can be a emotional and physically dangerous impulse.

rahu
 

RisingSag

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Hey seriously, go with your instincts. It sounds like you have enough to deal with. Just let your bf know you don't like her. You don't HAVE to like her. You don't have to be reasonable about it either. You don'tnhave to explain yourself.
It's your place and you don't trust her. Don't let her come over anymore.
 

RaRohini

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Hi !

I concur with what Rahu said. I recast the chart as per vedic system and her chart is quite interesting.
From 1991 to 2009 she has Rahu Mahadasha. Now she has the powerful conjunction of Moon and Rahu in Aquarius . Rahu is in Shatabhisha the thousand healers who has a secret ( happened when she was around 20 yrs old which she will never reveal). My guesstimate is that what she says about home abuse and Satanism may be true because this conjunc tion occurs in the 4th house of home and homeland. Something abnormal was happening at home .
Sun and Moon in Aquarius Dhanishta the dolphin in the 3rd house of friends and siblings. She subconsciously strives for the welfare of everyone ..especially the mentally challenged or 'alien' types of people. But that doesnt rule out sex with them. Mars is in Aries Bharani the bearer in the 6th house of work and service. Mars is exalted in Bharani Aries and this star can sway towards sexual excesses. It is more of a female submissive type of energy.
Ascendant Scorpio Vishaka the shocker who can cut through the ego by shocking.
She may be a compulsive gambler and a lucky one too.
Now it is Jupiter Dasha and she may meet her mate or father ( who most likely created a wrong atmosphere at home).
She will leave when she is not attracted to your bf. Not sure if she can strike out , but Jupiter being in Taurus Kritika the cutter , better to play safe. But don't anger her.
 
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Star Searcher

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So you guys are saying that she can be vengeful? Hmmn. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Right now I'm more concerned about how great is her tendency to ***** me over with ID theft and old fashioned stealing.

I must say she is overly helpful. She does have a very strong work ethic. I just wish she put that tendency towards wholesome endeavors instead of underworld activities.

I'm wondering if she can ever turn her life around. (I'm assuming it will be a long time from now.) Also I'm wondering if the people who abused her as as a child will ever see legal justice.

Although she does make me uneasy, she can be rather likeable and charming. But isn't that the hallmark of a con-artist?

Here is my chart.

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rahu

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So you guys are saying that she can be vengeful? Hmmn. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Right now I'm more concerned about how great is her tendency to ***** me over with ID theft and old fashioned stealing.

I must say she is overly helpful. She does have a very strong work ethic. I just wish she put that tendency towards wholesome endeavors instead of underworld activities.

I'm wondering if she can ever turn her life around. (I'm assuming it will be a long time from now.) Also I'm wondering if the people who abused her as as a child will ever see legal justice.

Although she does make me uneasy, she can be rather likeable and charming. But isn't that the hallmark of a con-artist?

Here is my chart.

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As I said, a midpoint composite would be the most helpful .but looking at your chart, I don't see any malicious intentions around you now, though back towards summer, there were rather selfish and possibly threatening energies .
The node is transiting your venus and was trine to the moon awhile back, which actually shows good rapport with women in general.my take is that if she had malicious intentions towards you, she would have already acted on them. But again, a composite could clarify your question.
rahu
 

cocoloco

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Is there any way you could kick her out of your house? I applaud you for being so generous with her but if she is as shady as you described she would not only steal from you but may hurt you. I would call the police and have her escorted out of there.
 

Star Searcher

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She hasn't done anything to me that I am aware of.

Also she hasn't moved into my apartment. My boyfriend keeps inviting her in. At first she came every other day until I put my foot down. I can deal with her every four to five days, preferably longer. Every so often she campaigns to be in my apartment every two days. Like for example recently she looked into my eyes and said something like "I am coming back Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday". Most people say "Can we spend some time together soon? If it's okay with you we can meet Thursday afternoon at the Bocce park. That's when I'm free. How about you?" instead. So basically all I could do to respond to her self-invitation was to make a face.

I have the Astrodienst Extended Chart Selection open up in another tab. How do I create a synastry chart? Under Partner Charts there are a lot of choices.
 

rahu

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She hasn't done anything to me that I am aware of.

Also she hasn't moved into my apartment. My boyfriend keeps inviting her in. At first she came every other day until I put my foot down. I can deal with her every four to five days, preferably longer. Every so often she campaigns to be in my apartment every two days. Like for example recently she looked into my eyes and said something like "I am coming back Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday". Most people say "Can we spend some time together soon? If it's okay with you we can meet Thursday afternoon at the Bocce park. That's when I'm free. How about you?" instead. So basically all I could do to respond to her self-invitation was to make a face.

I have the Astrodienst Extended Chart Selection open up in another tab. How do I create a synastry chart? Under Partner Charts there are a lot of choices.

I prefer a midpoint composite.
click on natal chart wheel, then select composite chart, midpoint method

make sure you and she are in the upper left hand boxes

rahu
 

rahu

Banned
hi ya
I just ran the calcs for the composite

the moon is conjunct to eros and square to Uranus.
this actually shows a bit of affection but the square shows that you and her can easily butt heads.

the sun is conjunct to mars, opposed to Saturn and square to chiron. this is definitely a read flag as it shows a contentious relationships with selfish motives and likely selfish actions. couple with the moon/Uranus square, this is a recipe for violent reactions.

with nessus on the ascendant the implication is that all the sordid stories are correct but that the psychological dynamics of these experiences will affect the relationship between you.

the moon/Saturn midpoint is on the anti-vertex and opposed to mercury conjunct the vertex. not a good sign. there will always be a animosity between you. this can shows biting one's tongue but it gives no likelihood of developing into a mutually respective relationship.

the venus/Uranus midpoint is square to orcus which can iindicate that arguments can develop which could elicit destructive emotional behavior.

sedna is square the node which shows a openness. so I don't think she is lying about any of her experiences, but these revelations no matter how good hearted do not negate the potential dangerous reactions.

with the Uranus/pluto midpoint also square to the node, there is definitely as possible of a violent reaction. speculating here, as she is revealing deep truths, your continued dissatisfaction with her could bring out the violence.

with the mars/Uranus and sun/Uranus midpoints conjunct to pluto. I have to consider this a dangerous situation . as physical violence can be signified.

the eros/psyche midpoint is square to venus which shows there is a underlying "attraction" but there are so many harsh aspects that this could result in rejection by you to these attractive feelings pushing her into the darker aspects.

so I would be especially vigilant if you start to feel she is showing a undue affection toward you.

I can't see an immediate threat but that doesn't mean it is not here.

at this point I would think you need to consider if the relationship with your bipolar mate is worth his need to bring such a intrusion into your relationship.

my gut feelings, not based on astrology, it that he is attracted to her for all the wrong reasons, he is wants something more that his "altruistic" behavior shows.
you might look at his and her composite as well as a tricomposite of the three of you.

looking back at her chart with the node square to mars and orcus and the sun /eros/nessus conjunct to the node and with the lilth axis also conjunct the node axis, she has very dark and selfish impulses which no amount of sympathy will mediate.

this all makes me think you need to issue an ultimatum to your partner. and I think their composite will show a very quirky sexual attraction

I suggest you keep you concerns about her private but put your foot down immediately. you don't want to give her any reason to take offense. I think her interference with your relationship with your partner is enough of a reason to have her exit it.

rahu
 
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Star Searcher

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If she is basically not a liar, yet has selfish motives, is she capable of theft and con-artistry?

Anyway here is the composite chart between me and her. I'm using "Composite Chart, Midpoint-Method (2)", as was suggested to me.

How do you do tri-composites using Astrodienst Extended Chart selection? Looks like you can only do two people at one time.
 

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rahu

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If she is basically not a liar, yet has selfish motives, is she capable of theft and con-artistry?

Anyway here is the composite chart between me and her. I'm using "Composite Chart, Midpoint-Method (2)", as was suggested to me.

How do you do tri-composites using Astrodienst Extended Chart selection? Looks like you can only do two people at one time.

She is a victim of extreme sexual abuse this causes a dissassociative or even a psychotic split personality
.if you keep going down the list of charts you will come to multiple composite option click that and a screen will appear that gives a option to calculate more than one person. It will already read 3 so add the 3 entries, click again and the multi composite will come up.

I have already looked at you and her. I suggest again you look at your partner and her. After all your problems stem from him not her.
rahu
 
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Star Searcher

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I hope I got the hang of doing the multi-person composite chart. Here ya go.
 

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rahu

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Interesting, venus conjunct the node.
So the obvious is pointed out. This revolves around her. The node emphacizes the sexual nature of the multi relationship. In this chart it is safe to associate her with venus and you with the moon, him with Saturn. So you are involved with understanding what is going on and he is evolved with the unconscious emotional instincts as Saturn is square to Pluto and the sun.
The Uranus/chiron opposition is square the ascendant so it seems this tension is part and parcel of theses interactions. It does not look to even out as she/venus is decile to Uranus and the venus/sun conjunction is biquintile to chiron.
With Mars square to Jupiter tension with your relationship with grow and arguments are likely because the jupier/mars midpoint is square to the moon/mercury opposition.
rahu
 
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