Venus in Scorpio males... Why so intense????

The Sun conjunction Pluto happens in the 1st house, and any planets in the 1st house will show up very evidently in that person's personality. Plus, he's got his two relationship planets (Venus and Mars) in Scorpio.

I'm not at all surprised that he's intense (and probably jealous, too).

I have to agree..I love intense relationships...but I was not prepared for the person who had venus in scorpio at all!

Jealous, manipulative,wanted to know where I was every second of the day- and i only knew him for a couple weeks :O

Nothing matches the intensity of venus in scorpio.

Lithuel said:

The Sun conjunction Pluto happens in the 1st house, and any planets in the 1st house will show up very evidently in that person's personality. Plus, he's got his two relationship planets (Venus and Mars) in Scorpio.

I'm not at all surprised that he's intense (and probably jealous, too).

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Oh, shoot, I have Sun conjunct Pluto - but those planets are both in my 10th house and not my 1st so many I am safe. I wouldn't say I get jealous really - well, maybe sometimes.

Yes, I agree with Lithuel. Pluto, planet of volcanic energy, to the ego would make one intense!

And Mars in Scorpio that can be intense (match for a Scorpio Rising intense!). But he also just sounds like insecure. "Did you meet any mens today? Are they better looking than me?" Sounds like he is fishing for you to give him compliments and say that is the best looking guy around - sounds like he might have a big ego to me! I don't think that has anything to do with Venus in Scorpio either.

Also, almost all his planets are below the horizon which means his world is subjective - he might focus alot on himself.

Roseapple said:

Thank you so much for all the links and replies.

I'm attaching his chart but I can't see anything to justify his intense character other than the Sun conjunct Pluto in his natal chart? Does it mean double the intensity when he has Venus in Scorpio as well? Thanks guys!

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Well there you go

Sun conjunct Pluto
A conjunction of the Sun and Pluto shows you possess the traits of an extremist in some ways. Your likes and dislikes can be intense. Being moderate in your actions is always a problem. There is a power complex in play here, and you have to deal with a tendency to become dictatorial. You have a power ego you assert on some occasions, and not always with common sense. Even if it doesn't show elsewhere in the chart, you are highly assertive and competitive. Often your strong drive is directed at improving social conditions in your environment. You have a significant social consciousness, and you are very intolerant of unfair circumstances and injustices

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http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html#sucpl

Natal chart aspects
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Specialrefixindex/category:


planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php

Roseapple said:

Thank you so much for all the links and replies.

I'm attaching his chart but I can't see anything to justify his intense character other than the Sun conjunct Pluto in his natal chart? Does it mean double the intensity when he has Venus in Scorpio as well? Thanks guys!

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venus on it's own in scorpio doesn't necessarily explain intensity but it's *aspects* do, SO conjunct mars and uranus. Venus/uranus is classic divorce aspect, mars/uranus = bad temper or accident prone

Natal chart aspects
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Specialrefixindex/category:


planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php

Mars conjunct Venus
The conjunction between Venus and Mars shows a strong desire nature needing expression. You are the aggressor in relationships with the opposite sex, and you are ever eager and aggressive in making social contacts, as well. Artistic endeavors may be an active outlet for your hyperactive nature. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/marsaspects.html#macve

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Venus conjunct Uranus
The conjunction of Venus and Uranus suggests that you are inclined to sudden attractions. This placement gives a sparkle to your personality making you popular and socially active. It may be hard for you to stay tied to one person because your affections are so universal by nature. It's a good idea for you to give your romances the test of a little time. Avoid rushing in to marriage. If you are artistically inclined, this aspect adds a degree of originality to your work or performances.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/venusaspects.html#vecur

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ok, so i am dating a venus in scorpio male. mega intense. but he is a super sadge -- 5 planets and ASC in sadge. he is the ultimate hyprocrit, perhaps he is just conflicted???

not to mention, i am a double scorpio with a pisces moon, so naturally i have suspicious tendencies. he interrogates me with 20 questions, but when i show any of my jealous side, he turns into mr. sadge and puts up a wall. he can dish out the dirt, but cant take the heat. annoying and frustrating dont even begin to explain this relationship.

Venus in Scorpio. That sounds hot. I am kind of obsesive myself and in previous relationships I always find myself twisting my soul saying to the guy: Yeah, it okay, go with your friends, or yeah, it okay, I won't see you that week. Or yeah, it's okay, don't tell me that if you don't want to. When actially is not okay. And I am trying not to make circus or anything about it, because I know I don't have the right to take people's freedom and I don't have the grounds to ask for what I actually want because it's waaaaaay to much to ask from a normal guy. In the end everything blows off, because I am sick of it.
So I recently met a guy with Venus in Scorpio and I really like him. I just wanted to ask you what kind of person would he be in love according to you. I think he would be kinda very intense and obsesive, because this Venus is not only Scorpionish, it is in the 12th hs, conjucting the AC. Mars is in Sagittarius in the first and the Sun is Sagittarian in the Second. Moon is Capricornian in the third.

What's wrong with intense relationships? I am like that myself I suppose... A bit, well obsessive, controlling. It can get too much though, that intensity, unless you have a way to breath... relax. Maybe it is fear of being alone? I don't know...

my first boyfriend was a sun, moon and venus in scorpio. I found him rather more mysterious and secretive. I never knew what he was thinking. I chased him because I love mystery. When he was finally caught we were together 3 years but in that time he was still self controlled, private and secretive....like I never got to know him. When out relationship finally broke down because of lack of communication..............thats when all HELL broke lose. He stalked me for months and finally in one final act of desperation kicked my back door through tried to strangle me and raped me.

My last encounter with a sun and moon in scorpio...he was also very private, controlled and uncommunicative. We knew each other for 13 years, when our relationship didnt work out he met someone else but just wouldnt let me move on. He kept calling, texting and so forth. Even though he was in love with someone else he was like a bad smell that wouldnt go away. Finally after 13 years he has finally married her and told me that was the final phonecall he will ever make to me. This time, I believe him.....as its all or nothing with these guys isint it!

tee_jay66 said:

my first boyfriend was a sun, moon and venus in scorpio. I found him rather more mysterious and secretive. I never knew what he was thinking. I chased him because I love mystery. When he was finally caught we were together 3 years but in that time he was still self controlled, private and secretive....like I never got to know him. When out relationship finally broke down because of lack of communication..............thats when all HELL broke lose. He stalked me for months and finally in one final act of desperation kicked my back door through tried to strangle me and raped me.

My last encounter with a sun and moon in scorpio...he was also very private, controlled and uncommunicative. We knew each other for 13 years, when our relationship didnt work out he met someone else but just wouldnt let me move on. He kept calling, texting and so forth. Even though he was in love with someone else he was like a bad smell that wouldnt go away. Finally after 13 years he has finally married her and told me that was the final phonecall he will ever make to me. This time, I believe him.....as its all or nothing with these guys isint it!

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Yes, in some ways but it also depends on the interaspects -esp. any Moon-Pluto hard aspects between you two; such can make letting go difficult regardless of signs. It usually requires two to tango, so to speak, but there is (of course) no excuse for violence and rape -ever- and I'm very sorry that happened to you. After looking at your chart here to see what's going on w/ Scorpios, I would say it's probably best for you to avoid Scorpio relationships from now on. A possible opp. w/ your Moon may be compelling, and trines to your Cancer stellium are sexual and romantic, but the potential squares with your key Leo placements are a pain, and to make matters worse, Scorpio is your South Node -energy you are supposed be moving away from- so a guy's planets contacting that node in synastry is a (potentially nasty) karmic situation.

But not all Scorpios are the same. I have a Scorpio stellium but my Sag. Moon and Rising really change things up, and I tend to be a 'straight shooter', if you will, bluntly honest. I was actually reprimanded by a ladyfriend about laying too many of my cards on the table at the outset of a relationship and advised to be more 'secretive and mysterious'. OK, I guess I will next time! lol

Horus said:

So what is this a support group for survivors of Venus in Scorpio?

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Hey love that idea!. . . .support group for Venus in Scorp; love us or hate us. My scorp venus is Rx in 1st house scorp stellium (neptune, mecury, venus rx, sun) conjunct asc.

OK... so we are wee-bit intense, extreme with all consuming passionate feelings. Sure, you bet we love to dig deep into a relationship, . . . but we only want to understand you. Bottom line, we love to LOVE and to be loved... even secretely adored. Scorps seem to get too much bad flack... and god bless those who understand us and love us! The thing that most don't get w/Venus in Scorpio is that give & take w/others is what we need and desire to feel loved and appreciated so we can recipocate that back to you. When we are accepted for who we are (secrets and all) and you can share yourself (as much as you can or we'll discover anyway) ...then LOOK-OUT! ... we are transformed (our fav thing to do) and such amazing things happen!

Just Joy said:

Hey love that idea!. . . .support group for Venus in Scorp; love us or hate us.

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I meant for survivors of the "horribleness" of Venus in Scorpio in their partner, but perhaps such a group can serve both ends (in case this thread isn't enough) so here it is, J.J. :

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/group.php?do=view&groupid=65

You can be the first to join!

Horus said:

So what is this a support group for survivors of Venus in Scorpio? Well perhaps you should just stick to light and fun Venus in Air boys and stop trash-talking Venus in Scorpio or inciting a hate fest with negative, blanket generalizations on one placement.

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Horus said:

I meant for survivors of the "horribleness" of Venus in Scorpio in their partner, but perhaps such a group can serve both ends (in case this thread isn't enough) so here it is, J.J. :

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/group.php?do=view&groupid=65

You can be the first to join!

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Totally awesome! I just joined!

Horus said:

I meant for survivors of the "horribleness" of Venus in Scorpio in their partner, but perhaps such a group can serve both ends (in case this thread isn't enough) so here it is, J.J. :

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/group.php?do=view&groupid=65

You can be the first to join!

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Good for both sides, most definately....but yeah did take it as people who can survive their scorp venus and make it a plus! Not easy at times when seem alien to others

Just got out of an 8 year relationship with a Venus in Scorpio 12th house Saturn man. He's a Virgo/Libra cusp baby 9/22 with ASC Scorpio. Very outgoing, and sexual. I deduced his philandering and need for constant sex, flirting with me & other woman, while still having a need for relationships to his Venus in Scorpio & Libra influence. JMO.

Horus said:

Yes, in some ways but it also depends on the interaspects -esp. any Moon-Pluto hard aspects between you two; such can make letting go difficult regardless of signs. It usually requires two to tango, so to speak, but there is (of course) no excuse for violence and rape -ever- and I'm very sorry that happened to you. After looking at your chart here to see what's going on w/ Scorpios, I would say it's probably best for you to avoid Scorpio relationships from now on. A possible opp. w/ your Moon may be compelling, and trines to your Cancer stellium are sexual and romantic, but the potential squares with your key Leo placements are a pain, and to make matters worse, Scorpio is your South Node -energy you are supposed be moving away from- so a guy's planets contacting that node in synastry is a (potentially nasty) karmic situation.

But not all Scorpios are the same. I have a Scorpio stellium but my Sag. Moon and Rising really change things up, and I tend to be a 'straight shooter', if you will, bluntly honest. I was actually reprimanded by a ladyfriend about laying too many of my cards on the table at the outset of a relationship and advised to be more 'secretive and mysterious'. OK, I guess I will next time! lol

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Yes I agree with you, though I think that one of my lessons is learning from scorpio traits and also moon is aries as most of my boyfriends have had heavy scorpio influence and also anyone of importance in my life and usually for challenging reasons have all had moon in aries. (both warrior like traits)

My son was born sun and Asc in Scorpio alongside pluto conjunct Asc and moon in aries.......talk about me learning the hard way.....Cipes!!!

My man is a super Sagittarian with a Venus/Pluto conjunction in Scorpio.

His jealous moments are soooooooo squashed under all that Sag influence, though I do see it and feel it from time to time. Still, I think he keeps it in check because he knows that I am not going to play that game with him. I also tend to spend all of my time with him (which he likes probably because he can keep tabs on me, lol) though. He's my best friend.

Horus said:

Lakeside, please. Some people just have no idea how hard it is to have Venus in detriment especially when it's afflicted. No empathy, no responsibility for their side of the relationship (it takes two to tango), just blame and criticism.

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Hey I'm a moon and Venus in scorpio (mars in cancer) I know how it feels. We will literally hand over our hearts to show how deep our love and emotions go- We just want to be understood and 'seen' because that's what we try to do with our partner, 'see' them understand them, their souls for all they are.- and once we do we will cherish that in our hearts forever. We just want to show them how much we love and care for them and tend to come on so strong in the process. Personally, I don't know how to give my love in small doses so I am constantly being told in relationships it needs to slow down (as if the intensity were only my fault- when yes it takes two to tango.) we probably wouldn't have been as intense if that person weren't showing that they were willing to go the distance with us. If we take it personal we can literally end up self sabotaging ourselves with spite and insecurity, which i have done. I tend to smother when that happens therefore, it drives them crazy and me... But only because thats the only way i know how to show my love and i always mean well. I also feel there is a pattern with many other venus jn scorpios i have met and myself with this deep seeded fear of abandonment, that is why we fear the most maybe even well in my case expect to be left. Maybe if you can relate you understand why we will just give our entire hearts why we will give ourselves. I do feel however in my case that we do find ourselves victims, we do sacrifce a part ourselves that we shouldn't. I recently had an intense past life bonding with a scorpio sun and we will be parting ways soon and i just want him more than ever to be happy and to know i support him more then ever. It will make me happy to see him happy. This encounter helped me realize that i do have to let go and come to peace with my avandonment issues and be able to stop giving up MYself. Its a type of independence and empowerment that ive always feared. Ive always been independent but not like this. Its a different, more fearless independence resembling of a warrior, because i feel like thats who we are- warriors. We are one of the most profound lovers and as much as it can be a curse sometimes it is only because we let it be a curse.. it is the biggest most grateful blessing in my life. It's what makes me, me. There will be a person who will someday ACCEPT us and our Intensity emotion and borderline obsessive passions for all that it is and will go the distance with us. They will see us for all that we are and instantly understand us.

Lakeside said:

I'm a male w/ venus in scorpio. It can get intense. it's a gift and a curse lol. its wired cause when I was in hs I wasn't intense at all, infact i would get bored rather quickly, but that has changed now. As far as jealously I seam to get more jealous when im chasing a girl than when I'm with one for whatever reason.

Oh and to answer your question of why? well both me and my sister are venus in scorpio and we both have the issue in love of expecting the worse in every situation(example the person blows us off there prob cheating, lol) She is sun Scorpio so she is ALOT worse than me, but that might help explain it.

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You are so freaking adorable!

ThunderGoddess said:

Venus in Scorpio. That sounds hot. I am kind of obsesive myself and in previous relationships I always find myself twisting my soul saying to the guy: Yeah, it okay, go with your friends, or yeah, it okay, I won't see you that week. Or yeah, it's okay, don't tell me that if you don't want to. When actially is not okay. And I am trying not to make circus or anything about it, because I know I don't have the right to take people's freedom and I don't have the grounds to ask for what I actually want because it's waaaaaay to much to ask from a normal guy. In the end everything blows off, because I am sick of it.
So I recently met a guy with Venus in Scorpio and I really like him. I just wanted to ask you what kind of person would he be in love according to you. I think he would be kinda very intense and obsesive, because this Venus is not only Scorpionish, it is in the 12th hs, conjucting the AC. Mars is in Sagittarius in the first and the Sun is Sagittarian in the Second. Moon is Capricornian in the third.

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Give him lots of love with an ounce of freedom. He wants closeness and DEEP intimacy but also independence. Look into his eyes and never break contact and love him for his soul and try to 'see' him, understand him.. Put in a lot of effort and reassure him your feelings him and that you are willing to go the distance -you will win his heart forever.
He wants to become one with you in all ways <3 show him that you can or atleast are willing to match that intensity and always keep in mind he is sensitive even if he doesn't tell you so..