Black Magic related Question!

Kite

Well-known member
This is a tricky area as the key assumption that has been articulated already in this thread - You create your own reality with you beliefs. Your chart can point to some of the beliefs that might be in play but the key to solving this problem is to believe that nothing can harm you unless you permit it. This should be your mantra as you feel disempowered at any time. Another way of dealing with this is to declare that the power vested in your higher consciousness shall dismiss any energy that is not in alignment with your best interests. You need to reclaim your power and let go of any victimization consciousness. You can do it.
 

Monk

Premium Member
A forum is a way to debate nicely, which we are doing now, but anyone that is an astrologer must think what electional astrology is?

Aquarius7000 gives a good account, top thread on electional astrology forum, link below:-

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15304

I'm sorry that is magic!

Obviously Hermetic astrologers/adepts throw in a few rituals too, links below:-

http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/astrologicalmagic.html

For those interested in curses please view link below:-

http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/amicursed.html
 

waybread

Well-known member
Just because some astrologers did something nasty or superstitious in the past doesn't mean it's a good idea today. Electional astrology, however, is a type of forecasting: cf. other types of non-divinatory types of forecasting.

I hope, during this holiday season, people can take my signature messages to heart. I try to do so.

Wishing all of you peace, joy, and the love that passes all understanding, W.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Just because some astrologers did something nasty or superstitious in the past
doesn't mean it's a good idea today.
Electional astrology, however, is a type of forecasting:
cf. other types of non-divinatory types of forecasting.

I hope, during this holiday season, people can take my signature messages to heart. I try to do so.

Wishing all of you peace, joy, and the love that passes all understanding, W.
'….Electional astrology (also called inceptional) is perhaps the oldest branch of astrology.
The goal of electional astrology is to select the most astrologically appropriate time to begin an activity
to ensure the desired outcome.
In the distant past, this was used mainly for affairs of state,
elections would be constructed to select the best time to go to war, make peace, plant, or crown a king.
Eventually astrology would move out of exclusively royal hands
and it is this shift that introduces elections for concerns that are more common to the modern era.
Starting businesses, building homes, and marriages become prime topics for election charts.…..'


'….Medical professionals began using these same techniques when treating and medicating patients,
and magicians would follow the same theories when constructing their talismanic pieces.
The ripples of electional astrology go far.
Arguably the most utilized branch of astrology,
people tend to make election-type decisions every day without realizing it.
Many farmers and gardeners still use lunar or solar cycles
for timing the various phases of their gardens and fields
(one does not plant corn in December, for example),
and people often choose what they consider the best time to get specific things done
(grocery shopping on Monday morning is easier than Saturday afternoon)...'


Electional astrology just takes this kind of thinking to its logical extreme
that
there are times that are more conducive to certain enterprises.
http://www.medievalastrologyguide.com/electional-astrology.html :smile:
 

Monk

Premium Member
I might disagree with Waybread, but i join her in season's greetings, i thought i would send a little known Carol, i love Latin as i know JupiterAsc does!

Before English become international, it was how we communicated.

I love Waybread, however that doesn't mean that we can't agree to disagree, it makes no difference to how i feel about her and her knowledge!

I will continue after Christmas!

A Latin Christmas Carol below:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDc2FD-vy8M
 
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Monk

Premium Member
After Christmas i will post how unselfish prayers for world peace by any religion can be "TRANSFIGURED" into something nasty, obviously i will leave a link to attack me over this, there is more to secret codes over "TRANSFIGURATION" on Harry Potter than you know, please don't create humour, i have Pluto symbolism and can be brutal in symbolism, i go black or white, nothing inbetween, beware of making fun of me, i could sting like a scorpion in symbolism!

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Transfiguration
 
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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
After Christmas i will post how unselfish prayers for world peace by any religion
can be "TRANSFIGURED" into something nasty,
obviously i will leave a link to attack me over this,
there is more to secret codes over "TRANSFIGURATION" on Harry Potter than you know,
please don't create humour, i have Pluto symbolism and can be brutal in symbolism,
i go black or white, nothing inbetween,
beware of making fun of me, i could sting like a scorpion in symbolism!


http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Transfiguration
Hi Monk Seasonal Greetings :smile:

by the way the famous
'Do They Know It's Christmas?' Charity song
associated with Bob Geldof in particular
is often cited as 'a curse'
and the words certainly are dubious....

for example
allegedly, according to the song,
Africa is a place where 'Nothing ever grows no rain or river flows'....

certainly an odd depiction of arguably the richest continent on our planet
on which the rest of the world is dependent for cocoa, chocolate, gold, diamonds
sugar, minerals and so on ad infinitum
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi JupiterAsc,

For the benefit others i will say SOME BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING:-

Many believe there is a collective consciousness, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_consciousness

Others believe in The Akashic Records, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records

It has long been believed that unselfish prayers can be transfigured in energy that is used not for the purpose of those that pray.

Obviously many pray to Buddha, especially on the festival of his birthday in India, however the good fortune this generates can be used for a test of a nuclear weapon, as shown below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiling_Buddha

So passive prayer energy can be twisted into giving aggressive nuclear tests good fortune!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

Little Boy atomic bomb was detonated over Hiroshima, Japan on the 6th August 1945, and like the Battle of Okinawa, it has intended religious significance, for it is the feast day of "The Transfiguration of Christ", links below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_the_Transfiguration

http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/transfiguration-of-jesus-christ-faq.htm

Lets give simple interpretation:- Christ goes up the mountain with a few disciples, suddenly he is transformed into a blinding white light, a huge cloud forms above, from this cloud is heard a voice "This is my son that i'm pleased with, listen to him".

Without the voice, it is probably what the people of Hiroshima saw before they only left a black negative photo in the pavement!

Perhaps Harry Truman was playing God, he had a "Little Boy"!

I'm not keen on intended religious symbolism of this sort, it's not a joke!
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi JupiterAsc,

As Regulus is the Watcher of the North, you will note my M.C. is conjunct Regulus, i watch and write, and as Regulus really does sit on the ecliptic you can use projected stars or parans, it will show the same!

http://www.mauricefernandez.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2&t=1989

However i am far more interested in others that have a Grand Quintile or nearly two!

I did find another that probably has many quintiles, born on the same day as i was, link below:-

http://www.spacefacts.de/bios/astronauts/english/james_larry.htm

He probably has pentagons on his birth chart, and like attracts like, he did work in the Pentagon in 1995!

He was an astronaut, then worked with Nuclear Weapons he now works with NASA, i'm an astronomer, but hate Nuclear Weapons, very funny how astrology works out ha ha!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_D._James
 
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Monk

Premium Member
Please note my chart is weird but that doesn't mean i'm right in all i say, i have always found it too powerful for me as a human and fight to get clear insight, therefore any of my interpretations must be valued as just one regarding many!

It is a forum, so roll the dice, even i am not sure of myself, Regulus listed below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_stars

Please note i'm not self obsorbed, but give clear indication that my insights may be due to a too powerful chart for a human to cope with, i can't be clearer than that!
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi JupiterAsc,

To see how i'm afflicted with too much quintile power, how good are you with midpoints between the two grand quintiles, would you say it falls on the angles, ouch thats painful, just too much, but poetic ha ha!

My brain goes into mush, big headaches ha ha!
 
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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Hi JupiterAsc,

To see how i'm afflicted with too much quintile power, how good are you with midpoints between the two grand quintiles, would you say it falls on the angles, ouch thats painful, just too much, but poetic ha ha!

My brain goes into mush, big headaches ha ha!
I'm no expert Monk, Hellenistic and ancient astrology are of interest
with a focus on Fixed Stars, parans, eclipses, Arabic Parts aka Lots et al
:smile:
 
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