starlink
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OK boys and girls, lets have another look at that 8th house.
First of all we have to take in account two ways of interpreting any house in our chart. Mundane and psychologically.
Personally I look at the psychological side most because the mundane interpretation, like dying ,is something you really cannot foretel by the 8th house alone. My quote above, which says ruler of 8 in 12 means you could die in a hospital is extremely general and really cannot possibly apply to everybody. I read it somewhere, but am not really happy with that. It might happen (most of us die in hospital I think in the end) but it can also happen at home. To only look at it that way is very unprofessional astrology and "the easy way out" as it were.
The 8th house is a complex house. Actually, it is the most difficult house to interprete. It is one of the 3 psychic houses (4, 8, 12)and all relate to the water element (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces).
Some keywords for mundane interpretation are: Tax payments, inheritance (it is the money of others opposed to the 2nd house which shows our own money and income) banking, investments. It shows the financial situation of the partner, either in business or in marriage, because it is the 2nd of the 7th house. It shows surgery, butchers, detectives, researchers,psychiatrists, everything related to the occult , life and death.
Some keywords for psychological interpretation:
In the 8th house we find the fights we have with our inner demons, how we deal with our complexes, fears and everything we hide from ourselves, our deeply hidden talents. Needless to say that this can lead to crisis in our lives.
It is the house which shows if we are able to let go of what is not good for us or what has become useless. Here we can turn every stone till we find the truth, either within ourselves or from others.
You start by looking at the ruler of your 8th house. GeminiSagRising, you mentioned that Leo is in your 8th house. Yes, but Leo does not rule the 8th house as main ruler. Leo is intercepted in this house. Your 8th house is ruled by the Moon in your 1st house trine Jupiter, ruler of your 1st house. Now you said that you always thought that you would die because of suicide. In your case, ruler 8 (death) in the 1st, by yourself(1) and trine the ruler of yourself (Jupiter) could show maybe that this would probably be easy for you to do.
Personally I would say that there could be periods in your life, say when that Moon is receiving a difficult aspect from Saturn or Uranus, which make you think "I would like to die now", but thinking it and doing it are two different things altogether and Jupiter usually keeps optimism a chance, so I dont think you would really ever do it. If ever you should try to do it, than it is purely to ask for attention, not because you really want to die. This is most often the case in suicides.
Now the Sun co-rules your 8th house so you also have to look at his placement and aspects in your 6th house. This placement often shows someone who escapes his or her own complexes and neuroses by working, in fact, fleeing into work in order not to have to think about all that stuff inside you, no matter how much it bothers you.
Can you see now how superficial it would sound when you say: maybe I die in the workplace, or from overwork?
Planets in the 8th house do put an emphasis on 8th house matters. Always see which other house these planets rule in your chart. Ruler of the 3rd is in the 8th? OK, your mind is very occupied with 8th house matters, or you would like to express yourself, either by speaking or writing, through 8th house matters. Maybe writing about sex, maybe giving a lecture about science or psychology. Your thought are kept busy with "what is happening behind the exterior of things or below the surface (of yourself), in other words you could think a lot about your own problems and would like to go deeper into understanding them. How easy this is for you depends then on the aspects that planet makes.
People usually dont just all of a sudden want to know the "why" until something happens to them. The 8th house, when transited by personal planets but also by heavy slow moving ones, often bring occurences into our lives which force us to look at ourselves, our motives, our actions etc.
You see this with progressed Moon especially and more so when Moon is ruling this house.
Each planet in that 8th house comes from another house ruled by that planet, which needs somehow clarification or looking deeper into.
Must go now, will be back later.
First of all we have to take in account two ways of interpreting any house in our chart. Mundane and psychologically.
Personally I look at the psychological side most because the mundane interpretation, like dying ,is something you really cannot foretel by the 8th house alone. My quote above, which says ruler of 8 in 12 means you could die in a hospital is extremely general and really cannot possibly apply to everybody. I read it somewhere, but am not really happy with that. It might happen (most of us die in hospital I think in the end) but it can also happen at home. To only look at it that way is very unprofessional astrology and "the easy way out" as it were.
The 8th house is a complex house. Actually, it is the most difficult house to interprete. It is one of the 3 psychic houses (4, 8, 12)and all relate to the water element (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces).
Some keywords for mundane interpretation are: Tax payments, inheritance (it is the money of others opposed to the 2nd house which shows our own money and income) banking, investments. It shows the financial situation of the partner, either in business or in marriage, because it is the 2nd of the 7th house. It shows surgery, butchers, detectives, researchers,psychiatrists, everything related to the occult , life and death.
Some keywords for psychological interpretation:
In the 8th house we find the fights we have with our inner demons, how we deal with our complexes, fears and everything we hide from ourselves, our deeply hidden talents. Needless to say that this can lead to crisis in our lives.
It is the house which shows if we are able to let go of what is not good for us or what has become useless. Here we can turn every stone till we find the truth, either within ourselves or from others.
You start by looking at the ruler of your 8th house. GeminiSagRising, you mentioned that Leo is in your 8th house. Yes, but Leo does not rule the 8th house as main ruler. Leo is intercepted in this house. Your 8th house is ruled by the Moon in your 1st house trine Jupiter, ruler of your 1st house. Now you said that you always thought that you would die because of suicide. In your case, ruler 8 (death) in the 1st, by yourself(1) and trine the ruler of yourself (Jupiter) could show maybe that this would probably be easy for you to do.
Personally I would say that there could be periods in your life, say when that Moon is receiving a difficult aspect from Saturn or Uranus, which make you think "I would like to die now", but thinking it and doing it are two different things altogether and Jupiter usually keeps optimism a chance, so I dont think you would really ever do it. If ever you should try to do it, than it is purely to ask for attention, not because you really want to die. This is most often the case in suicides.
Now the Sun co-rules your 8th house so you also have to look at his placement and aspects in your 6th house. This placement often shows someone who escapes his or her own complexes and neuroses by working, in fact, fleeing into work in order not to have to think about all that stuff inside you, no matter how much it bothers you.
Can you see now how superficial it would sound when you say: maybe I die in the workplace, or from overwork?
Planets in the 8th house do put an emphasis on 8th house matters. Always see which other house these planets rule in your chart. Ruler of the 3rd is in the 8th? OK, your mind is very occupied with 8th house matters, or you would like to express yourself, either by speaking or writing, through 8th house matters. Maybe writing about sex, maybe giving a lecture about science or psychology. Your thought are kept busy with "what is happening behind the exterior of things or below the surface (of yourself), in other words you could think a lot about your own problems and would like to go deeper into understanding them. How easy this is for you depends then on the aspects that planet makes.
People usually dont just all of a sudden want to know the "why" until something happens to them. The 8th house, when transited by personal planets but also by heavy slow moving ones, often bring occurences into our lives which force us to look at ourselves, our motives, our actions etc.
You see this with progressed Moon especially and more so when Moon is ruling this house.
Each planet in that 8th house comes from another house ruled by that planet, which needs somehow clarification or looking deeper into.
Must go now, will be back later.