was he with another woman?

we have been dating for about 2 months now and he calls me at least 3 to 4 times a day, that is his pattern. He sends me mixed messages and that is why I want to know was he with another woman. the mixed messages he sends is, one minute he is saying he wants a relationship, then weeks later he say's he is not looking to be in a relationship, yet he treats what we have as thought it is a relationship. All of a sudden, after 2 months of calling me 3 to 4 times a day, he ups and not calls me at all on this day and it was a Friday, I even called him and he did not at all return my call until 841pm the next day. What I want to know is, if he was with another woman that day and is that the reason why I didn't at all hear from him?



Astrologer4U

Ruler of the 7th is Saturn. Saturn Represents him and he is down in the 5th house conjunct Venus. I think that is a clear indicator that yes, he was with another woman and having a darn good time with her because Saturn and Venus is not only in the 5th house of pleasure, it is also in Scorpio so I gather some physical contact went on between he and she. Does anyone agree with me? Or does anyone see something different? Can anyone see anything in this chart concerning me and he? By the way I am the querent.



Astrologer4U

IleneK said:

The chart you posted is named "Will I find the letter before weds" and the significator for you, the querent, is Saturn. His significator in the attached chart is Sun.

Perhaps you posted an incorrect chart?

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yes I did, that problem has been solved, the right chart is up now and thanks for letting me know.


Astrologer4U

okay Venus is in its detriment when placed in Scorpio so I am going to say that Yes, he was with another woman but not in a way that suggest he was trying to get physical with her but in a sense of communication, socializing and so forth.


Hello, anyone out there, please help me out with this chart.


Astrologer4U

Astrologer4U said:

we have been dating for about 2 months now and he calls me at least 3 to 4 times a day, that is his pattern. He sends me mixed messages and that is why I want to know was he with another woman. the mixed messages he sends is, one minute he is saying he wants a relationship, then weeks later he say's he is not looking to be in a relationship, yet he treats what we have as thought it is a relationship. All of a sudden, after 2 months of calling me 3 to 4 times a day, he ups and not calls me at all on this day and it was a Friday, I even called him and he did not at all return my call until 841pm the next day. What I want to know is, if he was with another woman that day and is that the reason why I didn't at all hear from him?

Astrologer4U

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He is signified by Saturn.
The other woman is signified by Moon.

She is strong in her dignity. She is in negative reception with him, since Saturn is in the sign of her fall, Scorpio. He is in negative reception with her, since she is in the sign of his detriment.

Moon and Saturn do not form an applying aspect.

If there was another woman, I don't think they were together, and certainly don't see any chemistry.

He is signified by Saturn. There is strong mutual reception between Saturn and Mars. Mars is also on the cusp of the 7th. I'd say he was involved with whom or what ever is signified by Mars. Mars being ruler of the 5th house, which is also the turned 11th house, it might represent a close friend of his. One weakness with this interpretation is that the Saturn/Mars sextile is not the immediately previous aspect of either Mars or Saturn. Even trying to find Venus or Moon translating light between the two is not wholly satisfying as the other (of Moon and Venus) interferes.

How can the other woman be the Moon since cancer rises in the chart? Isn't the Moon given to the querent?

I would say that he was having fun with another woman and possibly other friends (socialising as you said astrologer4u). He might,nevertheless, be attracted to her as Venus rules his 5th.

The strong mutual reception between Saturn and Mars and Mars being on the cusp of the 7th make me consider Mars as his co-significator, not another person.

Venus and the Moon made a trine 6 units of time before this horary. Is it possible that you know this woman?

For what it's worth, Venus flows away from Saturn...

The other woman is Venus
It just formed a conjunction with Saturn... now it separative

I see he HAD another woman, and perhaps he is having her now but the relationship is cooling down until they definitely separate from each other.

IleneK said:

He is signified by Saturn.
The other woman is signified by Moon.

She is strong in her dignity. She is in negative reception with him, since Saturn is in the sign of her fall, Scorpio. He is in negative reception with her, since she is in the sign of his detriment.

Moon and Saturn do not form an applying aspect.

If there was another woman, I don't think they were together, and certainly don't see any chemistry.

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I think in this case I am the querent, is represented by the moon. It makes sense that I would be strong in my dignity and in negative reception to him.


Astrologer4U

thegrey said:

He is signified by Saturn. There is strong mutual reception between Saturn and Mars. Mars is also on the cusp of the 7th. I'd say he was involved with whom or what ever is signified by Mars. Mars being ruler of the 5th house, which is also the turned 11th house, it might represent a close friend of his. One weakness with this interpretation is that the Saturn/Mars sextile is not the immediately previous aspect of either Mars or Saturn. Even trying to find Venus or Moon translating light between the two is not wholly satisfying as the other (of Moon and Venus) interferes.

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Moon me, Venus the other woman... what you say makes sense, in that he can't make up his mind between me or the other woman so he tries to have both in whatever way he can have them. Does that tie into what you are saying?


Astrologer4U

libraqua said:

How can the other woman be the Moon since cancer rises in the chart? Isn't the Moon given to the querent?

I would say that he was having fun with another woman and possibly other friends (socialising as you said astrologer4u). He might,nevertheless, be attracted to her as Venus rules his 5th.

The strong mutual reception between Saturn and Mars and Mars being on the cusp of the 7th make me consider Mars as his co-significator, not another person.

Venus and the Moon made a trine 6 units of time before this horary. Is it possible that you know this woman?

For what it's worth, Venus flows away from Saturn...

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I agree, it is certainly fitting that I would be Cancer rising with Moon in the 1st. it makes sense that Mars would be his co sig due to the fact that he is for sure mars influenced.

I don't think I would know the woman.

Venus flowing away from Saturn, does that mean that the other woman is not really interested in him outside of maybe friends?


Astrologer4U

Astrologer4U said:

Moon me, Venus the other woman... what you say makes sense, in that he can't make up his mind between me or the other woman so he tries to have both in whatever way he can have them. Does that tie into what you are saying?


Astrologer4U

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Not sure. Problem is I don't see Saturn being in any dignity of Venus or Moon (though the Sun is). So I assume that if he was involved with something or someone, that must primarily be signified by Mars. Now maybe this is not the right track and the truth is more in the Saturn/Venus conjunction (which has already been interpreted).

anyone else care to share some thoughts on this chart? I would love to get a solid interpretation. Dr. Farr, where are you?



Astrologer4U

Well,I used to give readings professionally but I am feeling tired and not in the mood to write anything long.

But I will say this, you Moon and him Saturn yours is an emotional connections but the reason he may dislike you is your too emotional of a woman for him- your emotional,sensitive, kind, nice, with feelings, dreamy-and he dislikes and-or doesnt understand those character traits- so if you wish him to like you more refrain from showing your sensitive side that often and-or learn how to be sensitive but at the same time sounding rational and calmer,stable. Not that you are not that, but just he prefers women who are less sensitive and womanly as you. He likes the more colder, earthly, practical types.

The other woman is Venus in Scorpio, and yes, it does look like he was with her and it does look like she was the sex kitten that night. However, both of them are in the sign of Scorpio ( neither are in the sings of the other,so there is no love and or desire between them,because Scorpio isnt directed towards either Saturn or Venus, but Mars ) which makes me think 2 of the following things

a ) Your guy is actually deeply and jealously so in love with a female friend of his ( Mars rules his 11th ) and was with another girl, Venus in scorpio, who is very jealous because your boyfriend loves the girl represented by Mars. So whomever Venus was she was jealous and very possesive and vindictive and jealous of Mars ( Venus in Mars'ses sign, detriment, feeling ill feelings because of Mars )

OR


B ) Your boyfriend had a one night stand or fling with a woman ( Venus ) who has a boyfriend ( Mars ) and she wanted to make him jealous so hence she slept or is sleeping with your boyfriend. Venus has no interest in Saturn, but Mars, and sleeping on the side whilst being in a relationship is something that would fit this Venus very well.

P.S. Oddly, you don't seem in love with him,just emotional about this issue for the sake of your own self.

you are moon he is mars and the other woman is saturn.
saturn meet mars in his first house and then there is a seperating sextile between them, that means they have met each other but this will not continue. saturn is in via combusta and peregrine so she is a woman with a very difficult situation, who doesnt know what to do and who behaves impulsively but then regrets...mars and saturn are in a mutual reception by sign that means a very strong connection between them, maybe is an ex or someone from the past. mars receives saturn by sign triplicity and face so he wants her very much.
you and him have a mutual reception by triplicity, which means that there is interesting between you, but no so strong as above. also moon is in a seperating opposition with mars that means that this relationship won't last.
so my answer is yes, he was.