How do you interpret applying and separating aspects regarding future events?

MoonlightSonata

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I cast a chart and the answer looks like a possible yes via a sextile, but I don't know for sure.

The main significators for my question have formed a separating sextile. The moon has formed a separating conjunction with the quesited, and the main significator has formed a separating opposition with another planet that the quesited has formed an applying trine with.
 

ElenaJ

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Separations are events or contacts already completed. They represent the past.
Applying aspects show what will develop.
 

MoonlightSonata

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Separations are events or contacts already completed. They represent the past.
Applying aspects show what will develop.

OK, so since separations represent the past, does a separating sextile mean there was an opportunity (sextile) for an event to happen in the future, but that opportunity is gone now, so it won't happen? Or do separating sextiles and trines mean an event might happen, but time is running out - there's some sort of deadline? That's what's confusing me.
 

JUPITERASC

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I cast a chart and the answer looks like a possible yes via a sextile, but I don't know for sure.
The main significators for my question have formed a separating sextile. The moon has formed a separating conjunction with the quesited, and the main significator has formed a separating opposition with another planet that the quesited has formed an applying trine with.
Separations are events or contacts already completed. They represent the past.
Applying aspects show what will develop.
OK, so since separations represent the past, does a separating sextile mean there was an opportunity (sextile) for an event to happen in the future, but that opportunity is gone now, so it won't happen? Or do separating sextiles and trines mean an event might happen, but time is running out - there's some sort of deadline? That's what's confusing me.
an applying aspect indicates a current situation
that is already going on now
or soon will be :smile:
things are building up
new things are happening

An aspect that reaches perfection aka zero orb - is now occurring
and
has reached the conclusion
or peak of the situation
aka
a culmination
or moment of truth.


A separating aspect indicates the event is over
but felt
or things are ending
or the matter has settled
and this is the energy left over.


These aspects must be within orb of influence to be most relevant.
Unfortunately, trying to predict if/when something happens
based on a zero degree orb doesn't always work .
strength of a situation is not by aspect orb.
i.e.
It is by the influences of the planets involved.


For example

the superiors aka Mars, Jupiter and Saturn
exhibit a stronger influence
than the inferiors in regards to an aspect

and

also a planet's strength
deals with the essential and accidental dignity involved
as well as the type of aspect.

We wouldn't say a sextile has a stronger influence at zero degree orb
than a conjunction at 8 degrees, for example.

Also, dexter aspects tend to be stronger
more direct than sinister ones
however, a lighter planet that casts a dexter aspect to a malefic
is dominated by the malefic
and it is considered much more difficult.

Reception also adds strength to an aspect.
Without it, some aspects are not strong enough to amount to much
or sometimes anything at all.
Separating versus applying can also perhaps show differences in strength.
A full moon is stronger when applying versus separating.
But any other planet will depend :smile:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects.html#ado





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ElenaJ

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Past is past. Time has run out.
If two planets are separating, whatever type of aspect, whatever type of energy exchange was going between them, is past. It may have materialised or not, depending on other factors. But it will no longer manifest.
You might say it was missed opportunity or situations that have concluded.
Example. Venus and mars approach a trine and they are the main significators.
This would indicate a contact that is going to take place.
Now, the example of Venus and mars separating. This means that if no contact already took place, it will not take place in the future. It is concluded.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
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BobZemcos useful Summary of Horary

for beginners as well as those more experienced :smile:



The theory behind Horary is very simple:

1) there is a Question that weighs very heavily on your mind.


2) when you have a clear understanding of what it is that you really want to know, you cast a chart or an astrologer casts one for you

3) That freezes the Planets as they transit the heavens at that moment (hence: Horary)

4) the Rising Sign and Planet that rules the Rising Sign represents you


5) the House, or often more correctly, the Sign that represents the Matter you're asking about and the Planet that rules that Sign represents the Matter. The Matter can be a person or a thing or an idea (like a rumor or a dream).

6) the relationship between those two rulers tells you what has happened, and what is yet to come. That relationship is in the form of aspects. If there are no aspects, then there is nothing to come.


7) the Moon plays a special dual-role signifying the State of Mind of the Querent and also how things play out, how they happen, and when they happen. When there are no aspects formed by the Moon (ie it is Void of Course) then nothing will happen. Note that there are a handful of certain special select Horary Questions where a Void of Course Moon is not relevant. Those are often war, conflict or legal questions, or Questions related to Career.

8) in addition to forming aspects, those Planets must also have Perfect Reception, as opposed to simple Reception. Reception is about "allowing." For example if Mars is applying in aspect to Jupiter, and Jupiter receives Mars then Jupiter is allowing Mars to act. Jupiter is effectively saying, "Go ahead and do that thing that you do." If Jupiter does not receive Mars, then Jupiter is effectively saying, "Go away and leave me alone. Go. Get out of here." If it is a Sign of Enmity, like Mars in Capricorn (the Fall of Jupiter) then Jupiter is effectively saying, "Cease and Desist. I will stop you from doing anything. If necessary, I may even get violent to stop you." And that just might be the case if Jupiter were also in a Violent Sign, otherwise Jupiter would just keep slamming doors in your face.

9) How things actually play out depends a lot on the "strength" of the Planets involved. The strength of the Planets indicates their ability to do act and do things and carry out plans and make things happen. A Planet that is not just in its own Sign, but also in its Triplicity or Term, and is Direct in Motion, Fast in Speed, Angular or Succedent, in Hayz, in a trine aspect with Venus/Jupiter/Sun is very powerful. That's a person with a purpose in life who has both the will and ability to act and make things happen.

A Planet that is Slow in Speed, Retrograde, in Fall/Detriment, Cadent, and not in Sect or worse is Out-of Sect isn't going to be able to do anything, even when there is Perfect Reception in the chart, this person is going to botch every thing up and turn a dream about ponies and gum-drops into a nightmare, because they don't have the strength or will to make things happen.


10) when charts have early/late Ascendants, Void of Course Moons, Moon via Combusta, Saturn in the 1st or 7th House (when not a significator) you can look at the chart for reasons why you are getting those warnings.

Often a non-significator Planet is making an aspect to one of the primary significators. Sextiles and trines usually indicate on-going events which first must be completed before anything can happen. Conjunctions, squares and opposition usually indicate obstacles that are preventing things from happening, and with the "hard" aspects sometimes things can still happen if those obstacles can be overcome.

The condition and placement of the Moon/Ascendant Ruler will tell you the State of Mind and what kind of person the Querent is; good-hearted, or ambivalent, or in sheer terror, in a total panic, has the "stink of desperation" or is immature and selfish, looking do to harm, or is someone you wouldn't let your dog go near. The Planet that is the Quesited/Matter will tell you about them, but not with the same clarity as the Querent. A poorly placed 10th House Ruler might be a job you really don't want, because it ain't all that or isn't what you think it is. A poorly placed 7th House Ruler is someone you might not really want to be with, or something you don't really want to buy and so on.

For a Planet (like the Ascendant Ruler) in Detriment, it is important that it make an aspect to the 1st House (ie it is not inconjunct in the 2nd, 6th, 8th or 12th Houses), and for other significators that it aspect the House it rules. A Planet that is inconjunct to the House it rules can't witness or give testimony to the affairs of that House. That means it cannot control those events, and being weak in Detriment has even less control and less ability to effect outcomes.
 
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