The same thing happens along the East Coast with their "invasion" of the Southern states (e.g. FL, NC, SC, VA and others). Southerners dislike East Coasters for more intrinsic reasons which creates tension (e.g. losing the Civil War). For example, they hate their liberal stance and the old guard still expressed resentment over integration. Interestingly enough, African Americans felt the same way, but for different reasons than whites. I was bused to predominantly black schools as part of the Brown v. Board legacy because state law dictated that there could no majority race in a school district. So if Southwesterners hate on us for demanding the good life, so be it; it's a minor complaint.
Oh, boy... I can really b!tch about all the horrid Midwesterners destroying LA's kitchy ethnic ways with their weird anti-social mannerisms and the fact that they're so homogenous that they don't know what it's like to be around those who are very mixed that they create a new white haven for themselves over in West LA and are extremely snobby and condescending towards everyone else as if they own the place.They come to LA to "make it" and seek out fame and think that they since they got away from their middle of nowhere sh!tty town and landed in a "big city" like LA that they are somehow elevated. I love the fact that LA kills their dogmas and send a lot of them packing.
When I came back to LA, my friends were still there. It's really ironic, because all my friends in LA are Angelenos and they WANT nothing better than to leave LA behind because they're also tired of seeing how LA got destroyed 1000x over being whitewashed.
I did a road trip from NV to New Orleans a few years ago and felt the creeps when I drove through I-40 in Arizona and New Mexico. The AZ portion was hostile and racist. It doesn't help having a racially ambiguous look, which makes me chameleonic. I resembled some of the Native Americans that I saw along the road and that did me no favors. Things in NM eased up as the population is more accepting.
Yeah, I know AZ is super racist, cuz I'm there now. I can't even f*cking believe that I left my super cheap apartment in LA to come to AZ but it's because I wanted to be closer to my mother. I've been on my own since I was 17 and after roaming around the world for 15 years, the only words I can say is that I longed to crawl into my mother's lap and cry. It sounds weird and sappy, but she may not be around much longer because she has an active disease that can turn just whenever and I don't want to be 400 miles away if she kicks the bucket. If it was any other reason, I'd NEVER give up LA, because LA is like my IC, it's my genesis.
The East Coast takes some getting used to no doubt, but being there was a huge learning experience for me. Had I lived there all my life, I would have had more academic freedom. Let me explain. The educational system there is the best (IMHO) and I would have gone to college to prepare more for a career rather than learning what wasn't taught to me in my preparatory years.
Yeah, I spent quite some time growing up in the East Coast, too. That's where I was sent to boarding school and where I went to college for undergrads and grads. Looking back on it, I suppose my "meanness" is rooted on the East Coast where the weather is a bit extreme (too hot and muggy in the summers and too icy during the winters), the people are extreme themselves- you get hyper aggressive Irish and Italians or you get passive aggressive Brits. My ex-husband's origins lies with passive aggressive Brits
Most Californians are mixed so race is irrelevant. We're Americans and all of us have a mixture, even if we are considered "white", "black" and etc. The same thing happened to me in the Pacific Northwest, and I lived in a major metropolitan area. I was engaged in a cold war of sorts with the people who were prejudice against me. That will dampen any Leo pretensions; but I always demanded respect. However, I found small towners more accommodating. Maybe it's their Christian guilt (east of the Cascades is conservative), who knows?
Actually, no not most Californians. Only in a few areas there's diverse mixing, but it's rather separate- most of the Asians stay with the Asians and specifically their own group, blacks with blacks, Armenians with Armenians, and even amongst the Latino groups, they prefer to stay with their own like Mexicans prefer other Mexicans, etc.
LA actually holds that distinction that I've noticed those who are minorities will hangout with other minorities, but whites will only be around other whites and it's actually an unspoken thing. Even in dating, white guys will say they don't want girl that's not white. It's one thing to have a preference, and be mindful and seek out what you want, but it's another thing to announce out loud to be condescending towards those who don't racially fit your standards. LA use to not be so segregationist but the heavy influx of Midwesterners makes it so.
I always wondered why Leos demand respect all the time. It's one of those vocab words that must be ingrained in the Leo sign. My mom and granny are the same way- they command respect LOL when I think it's really hilarious. Respect to me means nothing unless it's shown through actions and that takes a long time. But Gemini is not known to demand much and we're rather careless and easy going when it comes to dealing with others...
Pisces Moons suffer a great deal because I have observed that they are sometimes abandoned or scapegoated for things that are not their fault. Despite my grandmother's issues she had a Pisces Moon too and know that she toiled and suffered greatly. The challenge is to rise above the impurities of others (Pisces) and rediscover and claim one's inner voice (Gemini). This message becomes more imperative since your Moon sits in the 6th house, servants and illness. Since Gemini sits on your MC, this could become your calling card and means to achieve your potential.
Actually, I consider Pisces Moon the punching bag for all the signs. The reason why Pisces Moon suffer is because they are so innately sensitive and get startled by pretty much everything. Pisces is not a sign known to have any boundaries, if anything, they have complete lack of boundaries so it would be easy for other signs, one of more domineering presence to manipulate Pisces.
Unlike Cancer Moon, who is cardinal and therefore have the ability of emotional control, and Scorpio Moon which is fixed and therefore, can control and hide their emotions; Pisces Moon is mutable and lines are blurred to where recognition of the outside world vs where the internal world starts is nil. Pisces Moon cannot hide its emotions unlike Scorpio, nor can it control and manage its emotions unlike Cancer Moon. Pisces Moon gives off the effect of gushing raging waters busting through a broken dam. Or, at least my Pisces Moon does, since it's in the Mars decan and Mars' term. Heh.
I use to suffer a lot as a youngster and having Saturn oppose my Moon is no cakewalk. But I learned to let the flood gates open and allow the raging waters to come busting though. I find it actually soothes me to allow that, simply because, well, I'd rather deal with it than implode. Of course, a lot of people have complained and felt like my Pisces Moon floods the whole place and I can't really blame them. But I'd rather flood the whole place than feel like I'm alone drowning in an underwater torture chamber.
Well, if you believe in reincarnation then your grandmother passed down her spirit to yours.
No, I don't believe in reincarnation. She's still alive, for one
I was taught by my astrologer teacher that much like genetic material, natal charts are "genetic" too. Parents pass on traits of their charts to their children. My Leo granny with the Aqua Saturn on her AC, all her children have dignified Saturn from the oldest 2 both have Libra Saturn to the youngest 2 who have Cap and Aqua. Only my silly mother who's in the middle and is the black sheep of the family has peregrine Saturn and she was out of all the kids, the one that received the least attention from my granny. The one who received the most attention were the 2 with Libra Saturn, and the youngest one with Aqua Saturn. My granny only has 3 grandkids (including me) and by far, I am the favorite because I am most like her with exalted Saturn on the AC. The other 2 do not have dignified Saturn and she doesn't care for them (even if they're younger than me).
That saved you from guilt, a good thing. In my observation, Air type people tend to be agnostic or atheist. They are very skeptical of organized religion and spirituality as a whole. I tried to be atheist and my personality doesn't allow for it. Somehow, my safety net (Moon-Neptune in 12th) is lost. But I have had deeply spiritual experiences.
I think, as oddly as this sounds, Fire is the element that is least likely to be agonistic/atheist. Fire is fueled by desire and belief that they are not only great, but there's something GREAT in general that lies out there. With the exception of my ex-husband, I've not met any other Fire Sun person who rejects the concept that there's something "greater" out there. My Leo ex absolutely, and faithfully rejects all manners of beliefs that beyonds the physical... but funny enough, he's afraid of aliens
My granny didn't mind that I didn't believe in a "god," even though she herself believes in some form of God. My mother does, too. However, my mom actually showed a lot of concern that I am an atheist and doesn't like that I'm against religion. She's long feared that I've lost my way.
I don't know how to explain that the whole family escaped Catholic guilt and yet, we all went to Catholic schools. I suppose luck had something to do with it.
That was a typo; I had the Uranus in Aries transit confused with a natal planet. Draconic astrology says that I have Sun-Mercury in Aries, but that's another story all together.
HAHAHA Draconic chart shows that I'm Aqua Sun with Scorpio Moon and Cap Mars with Gemini Pluto in the 1st house. I think the chart sounds pretty cool, but I think that looks like the chart of Anti-Christ. I don't really think I'm that evil
I have never tried it, but find sewing, assembling and fixing things zen in a strange kind of way (Cap ASC, Venus in Virgo, Chiron in Taurus in IC, maybe). Deep down, I find working with my hands awesome because I see my creation in real time. I have yet to pursue that line of work; it's a little daunting being the only handy woman. But you never know; once I make up my mind that's it.
I like sewing too and I find that level of intricate construction really helps offset the nerves and instills a sense of patience. I think knitting is sorta a looser concentrated version of sewing. It's really easy and suggest you use wooden knitting needles if you try.
My mother has Virgo Mars, Mercury, Venus in her 1st house with Venus on her Asc (she's quite beautiful, really) and she taught me how to sew manually at 4. She use to make all my clothes for me which sounds cheesy, but then she taught me how to sew on a machine at 6. My granny never cared for that but she taught me to garden and how to take care of cats
It depends because of the people that I have dealth with have been water, air and earth (in that order). When earth and water is negative, they can be very judgmental, stick in the mud and prejudice. My brother and sister-in-law (both Virgos) have hang ups like this and I don't even deal with them. Even my brother discriminates against me... The upside of earth and water is stability (earth) and emotional intelligence (water).
I've noticed that a lot of Fire people dislike Earth. My Leo mom doesn't like her Cap sister nor her Cap sister-in-law. My Leo granny doesn't her Cap daughter or Virgo sister. My Leo ex and his Aries sister didn't like their Taurus and Virgo aunt and uncle. The Aries sister-in-law disliked her Cap mother-in-law (but then again, show me a woman who loves her mother in law LOL). My Aries friend dislikes her Cap mother and threw her out...she also argues with her Cap brother-in-law the most. She swears if it was up to her, she'd axe out Capricorn as a sign
That depends because I have dealt with loads of Air people who did the same exact thing. Remember that air goes wherever it wants. However, I have found Aquarius the most difficult air sign to deal with. The ones that I knew took Leo's shadow traits and ran with it. No one can tell them that they are wrong (no matter how kindly you put it) and they are only too happy to lecture on you on the pearly nuggets of their hard earned wisdom, even if you are peers. And they only want life on their terms. My ex-friend had the same birthday as Paris Hilton (eww...), Aquarius Sun-Mercury, Moon in Leo and Mars in Pisces.
Well, it's true that Air is here, there, and everywhere. We're all over the place and we know all your hiding spots
but it's really mostly Gemini Air that's all over because it's mutable. Fixed Air Aqua is difficult to be cuz that's like a fart in the elevator, a punchy smell that infiltrates unwitting and unlucky victims.
Very interesting you've mentioned Aqua can take on Leo's shadow because I've always thought that Aqua wants to BE like Leo, only they do it in the wrong ways by garnering notoriety by being rebellious and shocking. Deep down inside, Aqua is really as orthodox as the pope. Like Leo, Aqua are just as afraid of be ordinary, but unlike Leo, Aqua lacks the true confidence to seek an audience. Aqua does gain some sort of fame but it's in an underhanded and indirect manner. But still Aqua is Air and despite all their dogmatic flaws, I get along with them so easily...until they explode because they want the world to change to their vision. I'm not keen on demanding people like that. Although why I say that is ironic, I grew up with so many Fire family members, esp. Leos and they are demanding. However, Aqua is just as demanding if not more impossibly so (because of the Airy idealistic component) and that's when I find Aqua disagreeable. But before that, it's fine
My maternal aunt (Libra) and uncle (Aquarius) were terrible. Auntie was proud of her sexual deviances and was only too eager to "recruit" and disparaged my much younger mother (Cancer) for being a prude (Virgo ASC). She also set up my mother many times so that she could be raped and killed. Mom had loyal friends who unconditionally protected her, thank goodness. Uncle was a great kid growing up and when he got of the military, he acted like a felon. What happened? He was sexually devious too. I had twin Libra friends and one of them went through a very sexually wild phase (e.g. having sex in public). I have known some Aquariuses who are very open about the terms of their relationships. This isn't to say that Air people are all like that, but some need to guard against being dissolute by splitting themselves all across the board.
Well, I do understand what you mean. Both Libra and Aqua Sun are mucked up, which is why Aqua is in detriment and Libra is fallen. Expressions of perversions is actually known as an Air-thing. We're rather detached people, and are unhindered by any physical boundaries and so Earth cannot contain us, Fire cannot burn us because Fire needs us to keep burning, and Water cannot wash us out since Water owes part of its existence to Air. So yeah, we're the independent which gives opportunities to be looney and psychology belongs under the direction of Air (because it's a lot of intellectual theories about abstractions of the human condition). When we learn of psychology, we think of psychological issues and disorders. So that already is a tell-tale sign of Air. Also, Air in general seems to be a bit meaner in humor. I admit that I have a knives sort of sense of humor and the only other people who understand my mean sense of humor are other Air signs (esp. Aquas) and those who have a lot of Air in their chart (like a Libra Mercury or something).
I have not dealt with many Fire people. In fact, I was the only fire in my group and not a terribly exciting one at that (Cap ASC, Saturn in Libra, Mars in Cancer). But I have known a few fire types recently and you gotta watch them. The Aries types are very demanding and selfish; they'll hound you until they get their way and once they do, you are yesterday's news.
Yeah, your chart is similar to my ex-husband who is a watered down Leo. I find watered down Fire people to be agreeable, as that tames them a bit. However, Fire doesn't seem to take much to spark some sort of ROAR!!!
Yeah, I know how Aries are since 2 of them NEARLY got me arrested for harboring fugitives (them). My Aries friend who hates Caps likes to hound everyone until she gets her way. I'm the only one who says "no" to her.
They do the same out East. What you described are the ills of suburbia. Reminds me of some Pet Shop Boys' old music with toxic descriptions of smaller city life. The parts of the country that have been urbanized for a long time have a tougher skin as part of their collective identity, but the regions of the country that are now becoming urbanized are still more provincial and Victorian in their outlook. It will take them decades to catch on, if they ever do.
I was like that in my teens and 20's and now that I am 30+ I am becoming more increasingly drawn to rural life as a means to detach myself from the rein of corporations and the government. My politics is changing too. Some days I don't know who or what I am becoming. It's not like I am turning into anybody in my family.
The thought of raising farm animals, growing my own food and building my own home is awesome. Being an Angeleno means that I cannot reconcile living in a rural place with closed attitudes. That's been my challenge.
When I was in my teens and 20s, I was in woodsy/rural places for school and after I finished, I move back to CA because my Leo wanted us to come back to where we were from. By all accounts, New England was not suitable for my ex, as he can't stand the people being overly surly and direct. I don't like surly people, but I don't mind it, however I am at home with direct types. I dislike passive aggressiveness but that's what my ex preferred and I didn't mind making accommodations for him. My ex got tired of living in SF and wanted to chuck it out and run off to the middle of nowhere and be a mechanic and I can run an inn. I liked that idea, but I wanted to do that in LA and he hated LA, even though he married an Angeleno
I couldn't imagine going to truly a middle of nowhere place. In my mind, the middle of nowhere is like somewhere in the San Fernando Valley or worse, the San Gabriel Valley. I didn't think my ex meant it literally.
Basically, I understand what you're going through. Although I think it'll be harder for me than for you, since you didn't grow up in LA and so you escaped some of the diva damage that LA would have inflicted on you had you stayed. I cannot live in a small minded sort of place. I dislike provincial personalities and I need to be around people who have some finesse and fabulousness in their lives, not track homes and diapers. YUCK.
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