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JUPITERASC

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leomoon

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Trump's taxes were just outted by the New York Times (information about them, not the actual tax form)......enough to understand he would not be President had the country known about him in 2016. He wouldn't have passed the vetting for Top Secret information because he is over 300 Million in debt coming due (loans) soon, and runs a type of Ponzi scheme (robs peter to pay paul).....type of racket.


Bottom line, he lied to everyone who thought they were voting for a sophisticated rich and successful businessman! They didn't realize he is a loser and scoundrel.



President Trump paid no federal income taxes in 10 of the past 15 years, according to a report Sunday in the New York Times.
Trump, who has fiercely guarded his tax filings and is the only president in modern times not to make them public, paid $750 in taxes to the federal government the year he was elected, 2016, and $750 again his first year in office.
The disclosure, which the New York Times said comes from tax return data it obtained extending over two decades, comes at a pivotal moment ahead of the first presidential debate Tuesday, and weeks before a divisive election.


New York Times Expose:


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

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aquarius7000

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Speaking of "Dodgy"...

As the president wages a re-election campaign that polls say he is in danger of losing, his finances are under stress, beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed. Also hanging over him is a decade-long audit battle with the Internal Revenue Service over the legitimacy of a $72.9 million tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.
The tax returns that Mr. Trump has long fought to keep private tell a story fundamentally different from the one he has sold to the American public. His reports to the I.R.S. portray a businessman who takes in hundreds of millions of dollars a year yet racks up chronic losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes. Now, with his financial challenges mounting, the records show that he depends more and more on making money from businesses that put him in potential and often direct conflict of interest with his job as president..."

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

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Hunter Biden’s DODGY deals with Ukraine & China :smile:

created "counterintelligence & extortion concerns"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ta6xjZUdRw.
 

david starling

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Although Barrett's most vociferous supporters are gunning for the overturn of Roe v Wade, Biden is wisely avoiding that hot topic, and focusing on preserving the Affordable Care Act from right-wing destruction. Seems it's become somewhat popular in the Swing-States, and there's no real Republican plan that could replace it. Trump already had to backpedal on removing the restrictions on health care companies that prevent them from refusing to issue policies, or from jacking up the cost of health insurance premiums, based on the "pre-existing conditions" clause.
 
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blackbery

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More fake news from the NY Toilet Times, they do NOT have access to his tax records, this 'info' is from an 'anonymous source' who claims he has seen Trump's taxes. ALL LIES!!!

They said the same lies last time & even I believed them....but people aren't fooled anymore by the fake news. The Dems are desperate, throwing out dirt & hoping some of it will stick. They are trying to deflect from the REAL news, the FBI FISA scandal which just came out last week. There will be criminal charges coming for the Democrats, already one lawyer has pleaded guilty.

They don't want to put any attention on Hunter Biden with the revelations that he received 3.5 million from the Moscow Mayor's wife. So much corruption & scandal coming out. Here's a little taste from the Ukraine report......

On April 16, 2014, Vice President Biden met with his son’s business partner, Devon
Archer, at the White House. Five days later, Vice President Biden visited Ukraine, and he soon
after was described in the press as the “public face of the administration’s handling of Ukraine.”
The day after his visit, on April 22, Archer joined the board of Burisma. Six days later, on April
28, British officials seized $23 million from the London bank accounts of Burisma’s owner,
Mykola Zlochevsky. Fourteen days later, on May 12, Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma,
and over the course of the next several years, Hunter Biden and Devon Archer were paid
millions of dollars from a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch for their participation on the board.





 In early 2015 the former Acting Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv,
Ukraine, George Kent, raised concerns to officials in Vice President Joe Biden’s office
about the perception of a conflict of interest with respect to Hunter Biden’s role on
Burisma’s board. Kent’s concerns went unaddressed, and in September 2016, he
emphasized in an email to his colleagues, “Furthermore, the presence of Hunter Biden
on the Burisma board was very awkward for all U.S. officials pushing an
anticorruption agenda in Ukraine.”






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Trump's taxes were just outted by the New York Times (information about them, not the actual tax form)......enough to understand he would not be President had the country known about him in 2016. He wouldn't have passed the vetting for Top Secret information because he is over 300 Million in debt coming due (loans) soon, and runs a type of Ponzi scheme (robs peter to pay paul).....type of racket.


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blackbery

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Do you mean the polls that stated that Clinton had a 90% chance of winning in 2016!!!:wink::biggrin::happy:

Trump's taxes would NEVER be released from the IRS without his consent for that is a very serious offence.

Federal appeals court shields Trump’s tax returns, likely until after 2020 election


The unhinged Desperate Dems & Media are trying to turn attention away from the REAL scandal, the FBI scandal, Mueller's team wiping 22 phones which is a criminal act. And Hunter Biden of course with both Ukraine & China. He's been a busy scammer & criminal.

Day of reckoning is coming, stay tuned: Graham on Russia probe origins



Hannity: We now have irrefutable evidence of massive FISA court fraud


https://youtu.be/eqqlNmrewd4

Jim Jordan urges FBI to investigate Hunter Biden


FBI email chain may provide most damning evidence of FISA abuses yet




It WAS a coup attempt
September 25, 2020 Robert Zimmerman Essays And Commentaries
In the past few days a number of news stories have confirmed, unequivocally, that the effort in the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department to spy on the Trump campaign before the election and then pin the false accusation of Russian collusion on Trump after his election were all an effort to dictate the results of the election, and then overturn it when Trump won.

It was an out-and-out coup attempt by these government officials, apparently aided and abetted by Obama when he was still president.






Speaking of "Dodgy"...

As the president wages a re-election campaign that polls say he is in danger of losing, his finances are under stress, beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed. Also hanging over him is a decade-long audit battle with the Internal Revenue Service over the legitimacy of a $72.9 million tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.
The tax returns that Mr. Trump has long fought to keep private tell a story fundamentally different from the one he has sold to the American public. His reports to the I.R.S. portray a businessman who takes in hundreds of millions of dollars a year yet racks up chronic losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes. Now, with his financial challenges mounting, the records show that he depends more and more on making money from businesses that put him in potential and often direct conflict of interest with his job as president..."

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html
 
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blackbery

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david starling

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Yet another astrologer predicts Trump WINNING re-election in Nov.

WINNING.
:happy:



He Prophesied Trump's Election in 2011 - "Trump will Have a Second Term"


https://youtu.be/QkjkMdZv-B8

Indian astrologer predicts Donald Trump re-election too.

Think of all the astrologers who correctly predicted a Popular Vote victory for HRC! Predicting both Popular and Electoral would be advisable.

Um, someone should tell this guy that Trump wasn't even running for President in 2011!
 
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blackbery

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The popular vote is irrelevant. Just ask Al Gore & H Clinton!:wink:

However, I did predict this time around, President Trump will win both the popular vote & the electoral college. :happy::w00t::biggrin::biggrin:


Think of all the astrologers who correctly predicted a Popular Vote victory for HRC! Predicting both Popular and Electoral would be advisable.
 

david starling

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The popular vote is irrelevant. Just ask Al Gore & H Clinton!:wink:

However, I did predict this time around, President Trump will win both the popular vote & the electoral college. :happy::w00t::biggrin::biggrin:

You certainly did, several times.

Al Gore actually WON BOTH, once the recount in Florida was finally completed. So Bush Jr., WHO LOST BOTH the national Popular-vote AND the Electoral College vote, was APPOINTED by a Republican majority on the Supreme Court.
 

JUPITERASC

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Do you mean the polls that stated that Clinton had a 90% chance of winning in 2016!!!:wink::biggrin::happy:

Trump's taxes would NEVER be released from the IRS without his consent for that is a very serious offence.

Federal appeals court shields Trump’s tax returns, likely until after 2020 election


The unhinged Desperate Dems & Media are trying to turn attention away from the REAL scandal, the FBI scandal, Mueller's team wiping 22 phones which is a criminal act. And Hunter Biden of course with both Ukraine & China. He's been a busy scammer & criminal.

Day of reckoning is coming, stay tuned: Graham on Russia probe origins



Hannity: We now have irrefutable evidence of massive FISA court fraud


https://youtu.be/eqqlNmrewd4

Jim Jordan urges FBI to investigate Hunter Biden


FBI email chain may provide most damning evidence of FISA abuses yet




It WAS a coup attempt
September 25, 2020 Robert Zimmerman Essays And Commentaries
In the past few days a number of news stories have confirmed, unequivocally, that the effort in the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department to spy on the Trump campaign before the election and then pin the false accusation of Russian collusion on Trump after his election were all an effort to dictate the results of the election, and then overturn it when Trump won.

It was an out-and-out coup attempt by these government officials, apparently aided and abetted by Obama when he was still president.
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JUPITERASC

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'....Judge Amy Coney Barretts record shows
that she will not only respect
but apply the U.S. Constitution
as written and intended by our Founding Fathers.
And it would be a wonderful milestone
that Judge Barrett would be
the first conservative woman member on the Supreme Court....' :smile:

JUDICIAL WATCH PRESIDENT - Tom Fitton


Although Barrett's most vociferous supporters are gunning for the overturn of Roe v Wade, Biden is wisely avoiding that hot topic, and focusing on preserving the Affordable Care Act from right-wing destruction. Seems it's become somewhat popular in the Swing-States, and there's no real Republican plan that could replace it. Trump already had to backpedal on removing the restrictions on health care companies that prevent them from refusing to issue policies, or from jacking up the cost of health insurance premiums, based on the "pre-existing conditions" clause.
 

leomoon

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You certainly did, several times.

Al Gore actually WON BOTH, once the recount in Florida was finally completed. So Bush Jr., WHO LOST BOTH the national Popular-vote AND the Electoral College vote, was APPOINTED by a Republican majority on the Supreme Court.




And the "prize" gifted to the American people was a war based on fraud (no WMDs in Iraq) - predicted to be the case by British & German Intel.


How many trillions did that cost just in monetary value alone? (not counting hundreds of thousands of dead and displaced Iraqi citizens?)


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-real-cost-of-the-iraq-war-2-trillion-and-counting-2020-02-04



He (Bush) then grinned in that stupid way he does, saying "well, I'm not worried about the bill, the next President will have to deal with it!"
 
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leomoon

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Author Tim O'Brien won a lawsuit against trump back in 2006 when O'Brien and his lawyers sought and examined trump's taxes for some years prior.


He believes trump is in more debt then the reported (by the Times) $421 Million that the Times examined. O'Brien said its likely to be closer to what Forbes is reporting i.e. well over a Billion dollars!





Commenting last night on the recent Times news article,he said :
“If Trump is unable to meet his debt payments, he’s either going to have to sell assets or get bailed out by a friend with funds,” wrote O’Brien, author of “TrumpNation.” “Trump has never liked to sell anything, even when it’s hemorrhaging money. So if he’s tempted to save himself by getting a handout, that makes him a mark.”
That wouldn’t be a big deal if he were “still just a reality TV oddity,” according to O’Brien, but his presence in the White House makes him incredibly dangerous to national security.




“The trade-offs someone like him would be willing to make to save his face and his wallet taint every public policy decision he makes – including issues around national security,” O’Brien wrote. “If Vladimir Putin, for example, can backchannel a loan or a handout to the president, how hard is Trump going to be on Russia?



Dan Alexander, a senior editor at Forbes, estimates the president owes about $1.1 billion, which O’Brien believes is likely accurate, and the coronavirus pandemic has decimated the real estate, travel and leisure industries where Trump Organization operates.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html
 

leomoon

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TRUMP "income" TAX SCAMS:

18 Revelations:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/27/us/trump-taxes-takeaways.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes




In 2011, the I.R.S. began an audit reviewing the legitimacy of the refund. Almost a decade later, the case remains unresolved, for unknown reasons, and could ultimately end up in federal court, where it could become a matter of public record.


other recent presidents. Barack Obama and George W. Bush each regularly paid more than $100,000 a year — and sometimes much more — in federal income taxes while in office.Mr. Trump, by contrast, is running a federal government to which he has contributed almost no income tax revenue in many years.
A large refund has been crucial to his tax avoidance.

Mr. Trump did face large tax bills after the initial success of “The Apprentice” television show, but he erased most of these tax payments through a refund. Combined, Mr. Trump initially paid almost $95 million in federal income taxes over the 18 years. He later managed to recoup most of that money, with interest, by applying for and receiving a $72.9 million tax refund, starting in 2010.


What the auditors are examining:
(lncome Tax) Law holds that investors can claim a total loss on an investment, as Mr. Trump did, only if they receive nothing in return. Mr. Trump did appear to receive something in return: 5 percent of the new casino company that formed when he renounced his stake.
In 2011, the I.R.S. began an audit reviewing the legitimacy of the refund. Almost a decade later, the case remains unresolved, for unknown reasons, and could ultimately end up in federal court, where it could become a matter of public record.


*****Remember, his good pal Steven Mnuchin is in charge of the I.R.S. ultimately.... (for the past 4 years) and stopped Congress from obtaining trump's tax returns



https://apnews.com/article/03fedd44bf654fe19cfcf41506e3699e
 

leomoon

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Here’s a fun fact. Abraham Lincoln paid more income tax in 1864 ($1,279.13) than “billionaire” Donald Trump did in 2016 ($750). https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln2/525

In 2016, Trump paid $129,250 more to Stormy Daniels than to the USA government.


I don't doubt that most if not all of the deductions taken enabled trump to "not pay a Federal "Income" tax" for 10 out of 15 years, because there is something unique to real estate businesses and his resorts which may allow a high priced CPA firm as he employs to use the "carry forward" tax option, which meant IF put in for a $72,000.00 tax deduction, but paid no taxes or little to none prior to that year, then he can "carry forward" so much of the 72,000 per year as his taxes allow for in the coming years.





So most of that (still in question) $72,000. deduction took place from his Apprentice TV show in which he claimed it cost that much to do his hair and required for business.



Even IF they end up through the audit allowing that $72,000 deduction



https://www.politicalflare.com/2020...-the-apprentice-and-americans-have-questions/


Depending on how much he actually is "carrying forward" as deductible losses over the years, he may indeed be able to write off millions in income considering "paper losses" such as are legally allowable (interest paid to banks and others for one) ......plus depreciation (which can be huge amounts of deductions on buildings, resorts, even golf clubs & motorized carts and baskets to ride around in! They are all considered "depreciate assets" as are vehicles used for the resorts, everything in the resorts themselves, (bedding, kitchens and dining rooms appliances, on and on and on. Its only limited to the imagination by the cpa would say.



It is dependent on how HUGE his losses are claimed to be.



The I.R.S. law (as I understood it to be when we were audited once upon a time), is you must make a profit in some year or other eventually to "qualify" for a business or else they can say it's a hobby only.


So don't be surprised if he is THAT bad of a businessman as the papers suggest, even considering the "carry forward losses" over the years. They are saying he was a better actor playing a "successful businessman on the Apprentice" then he was in the business world.


Where the State of New York may be able to prove fraud in his dealings with the I.R.S. could come about by the way he chose to "help out his son Eric" while enriching the Trump organization at the same time.




https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...charity-money-into-his-business/#5db47e636b4a
 
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JUPITERASC

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More fake news from the NY Toilet Times, they do NOT have access to his tax records, this 'info' is from an 'anonymous source' who claims he has seen Trump's taxes. ALL LIES!!!

They said the same lies last time & even I believed them....but people aren't fooled anymore by the fake news. The Dems are desperate, throwing out dirt & hoping some of it will stick. They are trying to deflect from the REAL news, the FBI FISA scandal which just came out last week. There will be criminal charges coming for the Democrats, already one lawyer has pleaded guilty.

They don't want to put any attention on Hunter Biden with the revelations that he received 3.5 million from the Moscow Mayor's wife. So much corruption & scandal coming out. Here's a little taste from the Ukraine report......

On April 16, 2014, Vice President Biden met with his son’s business partner, Devon
Archer, at the White House. Five days later, Vice President Biden visited Ukraine, and he soon
after was described in the press as the “public face of the administration’s handling of Ukraine.”
The day after his visit, on April 22, Archer joined the board of Burisma. Six days later, on April
28, British officials seized $23 million from the London bank accounts of Burisma’s owner,
Mykola Zlochevsky. Fourteen days later, on May 12, Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma,
and over the course of the next several years, Hunter Biden and Devon Archer were paid
millions of dollars from a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch for their participation on the board.





 In early 2015 the former Acting Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv,
Ukraine, George Kent, raised concerns to officials in Vice President Joe Biden’s office
about the perception of a conflict of interest with respect to Hunter Biden’s role on
Burisma’s board. Kent’s concerns went unaddressed, and in September 2016, he
emphasized in an email to his colleagues, “Furthermore, the presence of Hunter Biden
on the Burisma board was very awkward for all U.S. officials pushing an
anticorruption agenda in Ukraine.”






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