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Red face Mystery Chart: What is her profession/employment?

This thread is on the focus of a mystery chart's profession/employment, quality of, popularity/eminence/notoriety, and other things that come with those topics.

It would be nice if you could interpret this chart, to see what this person does/did, and to see which chart configurations indicate this. No googling this person please, as that defeats the point of this exercise and the learning that comes with it. Rodden Rating of AA.

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Re: Mystery Chart: What is her profession/employment?

When doing a quick assessment of a natal chart, I look to the most exact aspects , and see them as portraying the ‘theme’ of the native’s life.

The most exact aspects are in two main configurations.

The tightest orb is the sextile between Neptune, in the 9th and Pluto in the 8th. When the outermost planets are in the tightest aspect, it often means that the native is a generational representative. In other words, they may exhibit the energies of their generation in a very definitive way.

That Neptune/Pluto hooks up to the Sun/Jupiter in Cap in the 1st house.
The midpoint of that Sun/Jupiter conjunction is 15 degrees Cap, so it is also a very exact aspect.

Sun/Jupiter conjunction in 1st denotes creative power, ambition, and the capability to perform record achievements. Nothing is impossible.

That ambitious goal oriented energy squares and quincunxes the Neptune/Pluto sextile. Those energies don’t mix very easily. That can be an internal struggle, that plays out externally as well.

The Sun/Pluto in Cap in the 1st wants recognition, and social acceptance, and could be very competitive and ambitious towards attaining that goal.

That personal goal is heightened by and threatened by the Square to Neptune in Libra in the 9th. And also by the Pluto in Leo in the 8th.

She may be easily influenced by others, and by her own ‘demons’ at times. Pluto in Leo in the 8th may have strong desires for drugs/alcohol/ and other temptations.

So we see a woman who has a very strong drive for success, even craves that power and recognition, but has to overcome her own shortcomings, which may threaten her progress .


The 2nd configuration is built upon her Venus in the 12th opposing Uranus in Gemini. Venus rules her MC, which is exactly trine and sextile this opposition.

So the Venus/Uranus polarity plays out very publicly? Her career and reputation and vocation are built upon her feminity and her unique view of the world.

She may have been a feminist and worked to break through social more’s about gender and sexuality? Wanting a break through with equality, equal pay?

With the Gemini/Sag polarity , she may have been a writer and an artist that portrayed women in a new way, for the new generation she represents?

She has no Water in her chart. None. Mostly Earth and Air. I don't know what that means in this case. But sometimes it means that the native does not get too concerned with how others feel about them. They can detach somewhat and do and say what they want.

So she may have been a rebel, with all of her Aquarius opposing that Pluto. Who cares what others think?

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Katydid,

I'm replying to thank you for your delineation. You've hit the right marks several times. Some of your statements are accurate, and some of them are especially accurate. Given with what you're given to work with, a mystery chart and a blind reading, it's shocking how many details you've picked up.

I also came to this thread to quickly quote your post to preserve it, as I value this delineation.

I wish I could give you more than 1 thank you!

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When doing a quick assessment of a natal chart, I look to the most exact aspects , and see them as portraying the ‘theme’ of the native’s life.
The most exact aspects are in two main configurations.
The tightest orb is the sextile between Neptune, in the 9th and Pluto in the 8th. When the outermost planets are in the tightest aspect, it often means that the native is a generational representative. In other words, they may exhibit the energies of their generation in a very definitive way.
That Neptune/Pluto hooks up to the Sun/Jupiter in Cap in the 1st house.
The midpoint of that Sun/Jupiter conjunction is 15 degrees Cap, so it is also a very exact aspect.
Sun/Jupiter conjunction in 1st denotes creative power, ambition, and the capability to perform record achievements. Nothing is impossible.
That ambitious goal oriented energy squares and quincunxes the Neptune/Pluto sextile. Those energies don’t mix very easily. That can be an internal struggle, that plays out externally as well.
The Sun/Pluto in Cap in the 1st wants recognition, and social acceptance, and could be very competitive and ambitious towards attaining that goal.
That personal goal is heightened by and threatened by the Square to Neptune in Libra in the 9th. And also by the Pluto in Leo in the 8th.
She may be easily influenced by others, and by her own ‘demons’ at times. Pluto in Leo in the 8th may have strong desires for drugs/alcohol/ and other temptations.
So we see a woman who has a very strong drive for success, even craves that power and recognition, but has to overcome her own shortcomings, which may threaten her progress .
The 2nd configuration is built upon her Venus in the 12th opposing Uranus in Gemini. Venus rules her MC, which is exactly trine and sextile this opposition.
So the Venus/Uranus polarity plays out very publicly? Her career and reputation and vocation are built upon her feminity and her unique view of the world.
She may have been a feminist and worked to break through social more’s about gender and sexuality? Wanting a break through with equality, equal pay?
With the Gemini/Sag polarity , she may have been a writer and an artist that portrayed women in a new way, for the new generation she represents?
She has no Water in her chart. None. Mostly Earth and Air. I don't know what that means in this case. But sometimes it means that the native does not get too concerned with how others feel about them. They can detach somewhat and do and say what they want.
So she may have been a rebel, with all of her Aquarius opposing that Pluto. Who cares what others think?
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This thread is on the focus of a mystery chart's profession/employment, quality of, popularity/eminence/notoriety, and other things that come with those topics.

It would be nice if you could interpret this chart, to see what this person does/did, and to see which chart configurations indicate this. No googling this person please, as that defeats the point of this exercise and the learning that comes with it. Rodden Rating of AA.

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Stuff like this scares me, but I'll give it a shot.

MC ruler is Venus in the 12th, in a Masculine sign, but in a night chart. Saturn is overcoming her with a Square from Virgo. That's pretty rough. Definitely challenges concerning action for them. Likely a string of multiple rejections by those in authority, which may lead to a career that falls outside of the norms of what's considered normal or respectable. Since it's Venus, it might have to do with forms of sexuality that are socially unacceptable. Venus-Saturn backs that up, suggesting that their praxis is tied to women or sexuality in a way that isn't socially accepted. This could be anything from prostitution to social advocacy for disaffected women. Since Jupiter is Venus' domicile lord, I'm inclined to think that it's directed more in the direction of advocacy for disenfranchised women or those with alternative sexual preferences. Since Jupiter is in Fall in Capricorn and can't see Venus, I'm skeptical as to how successful they are in accomplishing this. Definitely a ton of resistance to whatever it is this person is trying to accomplish in regards to Venus-Saturn.

Can't wait to see how off the mark I am.
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Stuff like this scares me, but I'll give it a shot.

MC ruler is Venus in the 12th, in a Masculine sign, but in a night chart. Saturn is overcoming her with a Square from Virgo. That's pretty rough. Definitely challenges concerning action for them. Likely a string of multiple rejections by those in authority, which may lead to a career that falls outside of the norms of what's considered normal or respectable.


Since it's Venus, it might have to do with forms of sexuality that are socially unacceptable. Venus-Saturn backs that up, suggesting that their praxis is tied to women or sexuality in a way that isn't socially accepted.


This could be anything from prostitution to social advocacy for disaffected women. Since Jupiter is Venus' domicile lord, I'm inclined to think that it's directed more in the direction of advocacy for disenfranchised women or those with alternative sexual preferences.

Since Jupiter is in Fall in Capricorn and can't see Venus, I'm skeptical as to how successful they are in accomplishing this. Definitely a ton of resistance to whatever it is this person is trying to accomplish in regards to Venus-Saturn.

Can't wait to see how off the mark I am.
You're not off, but accurate actually. I wanted to say your application and interpretation of traditional concepts lead to accurate results.

I just wanted to say that was a fine reading, and you should be proud that you interpreted it with accuracy and precision.

Your interp of Saturn in the dominating square definitely had issues with authority and falls regarding to that matter, which you tied into the Venusian aspects and it affecting her career. 100%
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Re: Mystery Chart: What is her profession/employment?

Placidus chart :


Asc lord sat over virgo 8th, critical thinking, good for audit-quality control-investigative roles,
chronic health issues urological-intestinal-hips-piles etc,
talented but not rich to begin with; long lived;

sun-jup debilated over asc, big ambitions, moon lord of elevation for jup elevated,
big dreams, gradual improvements, event manager; advisory roles;

Moon-rahu NNode elevated taurus 4th, love of foreign food and comforts, foreign lands,
acting skills, popular, rise-fall in life;

Scorpio-mars inimical for cap asc, stress-delays in career-recognition-income-gains-friendships;

ketu separative SNode scorpio 10th, keen research-occult-forensic aptitudes,
urological-knees issues, pain-injury-surgery; career-job changes;

inimical mars-mer over acq first, reformist, innovative, managerial aptitudes, industrial engg etc, music,
brain-legs stressed, neurological-sciatica issues;

venus lord 9th over sag 12th, seeking comfort in foreign lands, possessive spouse, foreign travels;
artistic aptitudes - martial arts etc;

gemini 6th, preference for analytical roles;


hope gives an idea of the talent profile and range of skills and life trends of the person!


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Please update us and tell us more, when you can.
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Re: Mystery Chart: What is her profession/employment?

Chart is not really mysterious given your recent thread on the traditional board on which you originally made this thread.
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Chart is not really mysterious given your recent thread on the traditional board on which you originally made this thread.
I don't think Bunraku made a new thread---I think the mods moved it over here....
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Re: Mystery Chart: What is her profession/employment?

kshantaram thank you for posting that delineation!

Petosiris, where's your delineation?

Katy,

You all will see the answer by the end of the week. I'll post it on Sunday (just two days from now).
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Now that Sunday has passed, and all people who wished to contribute have contributed, I shall reveal the name!
Linda Lovelace
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lovelace,_Linda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Lovelace

She was a **** actress with a notorious reputation. Nothing was off limits for her. There are many allegations of her husband forcing her into these sex acts, but many witnesses also state that she was a fully consenting party who enjoyed doing these things. She has been accused as a pathological liar.

She is also an author, writing several autobiographies that paint sex-work in a positive light. After he pornography career ended, sometime later in her life, she advocated against pornography.

Her most famous adult film Deep Throat grossed $600 million (3.7 billion today), and the film became ingrained in American mainstream/pop culture. Its impact is lasting, and profound.

After the release of the film, it caused a massive firestorm:

With its numerous graphic sex scenes, Deep Throat stirred up a national debate on obscenity. Several diverse groups, including the Nixon administration, Christian leaders, and feminist activists, protested against the film and the **** industry itself. There were police raids of movie theaters across the country often with the film’s print being seized by the authorities. ... A Supreme Court ruling that same year led to a crackdown on hardcore pornography, but all of the outcry about Deep Throat only generated more interest in the film and spurred ticket sales.



One of her most notorious participations (edited around the stage name) ....
...Lovelace starred in a 1969 bestiality film titled Dogarama (also known as Dog ****er).[9] She later denied having appeared in the film until several of the original loops proved otherwise.In 2013, Larry Revene, the cameraman who actually shot the film, spoke about it for the first time, during which he asserted that Lovelace was a willing participant and that no coercion took place. **** star Eric Edwards, who was present for the shoot, has similarly claimed there was no obvious coercion going on and that Lovelace appeared to be a cooperative performer.

Here she alleged that her husband held her at gunpoint to participate in the film, but the crew denied this ever happened.
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Re: Mystery Chart: What is her profession/employment?

Kitchy's disappearance from this forum left a big void of knowledge, and I miss her dearly.
She has experience working in the industry and would be able to provide more knowledgable insight. She was one of my inspirations
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wow. I thought she was going to be a pioneer in the feminist movement..,.lol

I had envisioned a Gloria Steinem type :

is an American feminist, journalist, and social political activist who became nationally recognized as a leader and a spokeswoman for the American feminist movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s.[1][7][2]

Steinem was a columnist for New York magazine, and a co-founder of Ms. magazine.[2] In 1969, Steinem published an article, "After Black Power, Women's Liberation",[8] which brought her to national fame as a feminist leader.[9]


Steinem speaking with supporters at the Women Together Arizona Summit at Carpenters Local Union in Phoenix, Arizona, September 2016.
In 2005, Steinem, Jane Fonda, and Robin Morgan co-founded the Women's Media Center, an organization that "works to make women visible and powerful in the media".[10]

As of May 2018, Steinem traveled internationally as an organizer and lecturer, and was a media spokeswoman on issues of equality.[6]


But in some ways she was kind of all of the above...?
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