In your opinion, what's your strongest planet?

Julian said:

And how would you rate each one in strength? I'd say it's like a struggle between my Sun and Moon.

Here's their strengths and weaknesses of each one.
My Moon

-I am Cancer rising
-My Moon is in the IC (Opposition MC)
-It has a trine with Uranus
-Sextile and trine with North Node and South node respectively.
-It has a quincunx with Mercury
-It has a mild opposition to Sun and Jupiter (A little bit over 10 degrees)
-I don't consider the square with my ascendant because a lot of people with a planet in the IC have square to ascendant and descendant and opposition to MC.
-I have Mars in the 4th house
-It rules my 1st house

And now what makes it weak

-My Moon is slow
-My moon is peregrine
-It's in void of course
-It's in via combusta
-It's decreasing in light
-I've read before that the Moon in the IC tells you to go from there and become like your Sun in your natal chart.


My Sun
-It has a partile conjunction with Jupiter
-It has a partile trine with Pluto
-It has a sextile with Uranus
-It's the dispositor of my North Node
-It's slightly conjunct to my MC (Slightly over 10 degrees, although I personally consider the effect to be stronger since a Sun conjunction with Jupiter and Pluto makes it really powerful. You've read that Jupiter expands everything it touches and so does Pluto)
-It rules my 2nd and 10th house.
-It's in its own triplicity, exaltation and face.
-It's slightly opposed to the Moon and the IC
-It's in Hayz (masculine house, sign and planet during a day chart)
-It has a quincunx with Mars (along with Jupiter)

And now what makes it weak:

So there you have it. I am 15 years old and yes I have been allowed by my mother to post in the forums. When I was around 4 years old I was extremely Sun-like, and then from 6 to 14 years old I was very Moon-like. Now that I've become more mature and confident I consider myself to be like both of them. Although I've read that around the age of 28 you become a lot like your Sun sign. So you could say I haven't fully become like my Sun yet. That tells me that I am a bit more Solar than anything else.


And now that I've given my opinion, what do you guys have to say? What's your strongest planet in your opinion? Have you felt that way?

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Julian, I have read posts by two or three of our 'older astrologers'
who have now studied astrology for more than fifty years
which state that they began reading on the subject when they were as young as twelve
and so
perhaps you also have discovered a fascinating subject
that may well keep you interested for many decades

There are different opinions amongst astrologers
regarding how to calculate the strongest planet in a natal chart
and
since ours is an astrological learning forum
I'm posting a link to instructions with examples
on how to calculate the 'ALMUTEM FIGURIS'

Omnisphericus said:

I was asked in private message to explain the method of calculating the Almutem Figuris of the chart, so I thought that since this is new forum (traditional astrology) it would be better to open a thread here and explain the method publicly where we can all discuss it.

Almutem Figuris is an old doctrine
where one planet
according to certain calculations applied,
receives the honors to be the Ruler
or
Lord of the Chart.

Robert Zoler had applied the therm AlmuteM instead of AlmuteN in order to differentiate the Lord of the Chart from the Lord of certain house or place in the natal chart such as Almuten Domus (Ruler of a House).

The word Almutes is an Arabian word which means 'Winner'.
Because, the planet is the Winner of all the 'life giving' places. Or the places which are most sensible and important in the natal figure.

The method which we'll use here I call Ezra/Zoller method.
Arabian Astrologer Ibn Ezra (1089 — 1164) was the first (as far as we at this moment are aware) to explicitely wrote about calculating the Almutem Figuris.

In his writings Zoller trace the beginnings of this Almutem Figuris and he found it in the writings of Iambichus (c. 245–c. 325) who was Syrian neo-platonic philosopher who wrote also about Astrology in his writings.
Iambicus in his work "Theurgy or on the mysteries of Egypt" speaks about the thing how one can change his fate. He speaks that he can do that through Theurgy and through personal relationship with the Lord of the Geniture of which he (Iambichus) only says that can be known through Astrology, but he didn't explained the method.
Zoller, tracing back the Ibn Ezra's ancestry, through the Sabaeans and his teachers (Mashallah and other) all the way to the first centuries where this doctrine was thought. Because of that line Zoller thinks that the Lord of the Geniture of which Iambichus speaks in his writings is in fact the Almutem Figuris of the Ibn Ezra.

Iambichus speaks (through the name of Porphyry) about the Peculiar Daimon, that is some kind of an Guardian Angel and it is conected to the personal soul but its not the same
Here's what Iambichus says in his Theurgy:
This [daimon] therefore is present as an exemplar before the souls descend into the realm of generated existence. As soon as the soul chooses him for leader the [daimon] immediately comes into charge of completing of its vital endowments and when it descends into the body it unites with the body and becomes the guardian of it common living principle. He likewise directs the the private life of the soul and
whatever the conclusions we may arrive at by inference and reasoning he himself imparts to us the principles."

Zoller about the Almutem Figuris says that it is equally as powerful as all the other planets taken together."

Benjamin Dykes (great student of Zoller) says about Almutem Figuris:
"Almutem Figuris, a powerful planet in the natal figure whose spirit or angel acts as the native's special link to the Divine. The Almutem Figuris is a spiritual astrological delineation, similar to but not the same as Lilly's the "Lord of the Geniture." But like Lilly (and Plato), the Almutem Figuris was taken to affect the native's thoughts, beliefs and character. Spiritual enlightenment can demand that we open our eyes to this particular planet and use it to access the Divine. Significantly, this is a function that many modern astrologers now attribute to the sun sign." (In his article on Happiness).

The method of calculation

1. Find the Essential Dignities (the 5 dignities, apply 3 points to all 3 triplicity rulers), in the Degree of the:
- Sun
- Moon
- Ascendant
- Part of Fortune
- Syzygy (the prenatal lunation, the one that came last, i.e. after which the birth follows - New or Full Moon).

2. Add 7 points for the Day ruler and 6 points to the Hour ruler.

3. Add accidental dignities scores.

For the planet in 1st house you add 12 points.
10th house = 11 points
7th house = 10
4th house = 9
11th = 8
5th = 7
2nd = 6
9th = 5
8th = 4
3rd = 3
12th = 2
6th = 1

The planet which has most points in the aforesaid places is the Almutem Figuris of the chart!

Don't forget to apply the 5 degrees ruler for the planet near the cusp of the houses. For example, if Saturn is at 15 Scorpio in 4th, but the 5th house cusp is at 19 Scorpio, you will calculate that Saturn already in the 5th, and you will give him 7 points instead of 9 as he would took if he was in 4th house. This can make big difference.

The free traditional astrology software - Morinus (google it), calcualte the Almutem Figuris. You can find this option by typing F3. But I should warn you that in that calculation is included some adding of points according to the planets phases. Zoller did not mention any kind of phases calculation so at this moment I'm not aware why the author of the software did included that.

But the best way and more enjoyable is to calculate it with your own hand. You will be familiar with the chart more deeply if you do this calculations with your own hand as the older astrologers did.
And if you must use the Morinus software than subtract the phases scores and you will get the Almutem Figuris right. All else is the same calculation as the Ezra/Zoller method.

Zoller gives short discriptions for every planet being Almutem Figuris:

Sun:
"If the Almuten figuris is the Sun, the native will want to lead, express his creative power and be recognized."

Moon:
"If the Moon, s/he will want to care for, be cared for, eat and make love, dream"

Mercury:
"If it is Mercury, s/he will be diligent in the sciences, business and communications"

Venus:
"Id it is Venus s/he will be a lover of beauty, of music, of men and women etc."

Mars:
"If it is Mars, s/he will fight in order to dominate"

Jupiter:
"If it is Jupiter, s/he will philosophize and teach"

Saturn:
"If it is Saturn he will retire from society, investigate hidden things and suffer adversity.""

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JUPITERASC said:

Julian, I have read posts by two or three of our 'older astrologers'
who have now studied astrology for more than fifty years
which state that they began reading on the subject when they were as young as twelve
and so
perhaps you also have discovered a fascinating subject
that may well keep you interested for many decades

There are different opinions amongst astrologers
regarding how to calculate the strongest planet in a natal chart
and
since ours is an astrological learning forum
I'm posting a link to instructions with examples
on how to calculate the 'ALMUTEM FIGURIS' http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=381593#post381593

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