Lex Gemini
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I.e the sign didn't rule a cusp.
What happens to that planet and/or that sign?
What happens to that planet and/or that sign?
What happens when Planets have no rulership in the chart?
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JUPITERASC
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In essence JupiterAsc is right. If the planet is intercepted, but in the ascendent, for example, and it squares malefics, it has a lot of weight. If it is intercepted in, for example, the 5th, and trine Venus, it's completely different, is more benefic and less imposing on the chart.
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Sebastien Cheritte
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Wow, it's hot in here!! --I like it. I support you Lex, Astrology often gives no straight answer, please tell me you didn't come here for a straight answer, learn to chew up the meaning, swirl the experience around in your mouth like a fine a wine, that's astrology, for the record, some people in here definitely not worth your energy, but I'll bite, also interested!
here's a chart.
10.10.1994
12:50PM
Carrollton, TX, USA
same situation, delineate that for the boy.
here's a chart.
10.10.1994
12:50PM
Carrollton, TX, USA
same situation, delineate that for the boy.
JUPITERASC
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AngelsDelight
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Elaborate Jupiter Ascending, The question I ask, is why does it depend on the individual chart? It sounds quite a straightforward astrological question to me.
IleneK
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Those planets that do not aspect the cusp of a house may be considered to have less direct influence over the arenas of the native's life compared to planets that rule the cusp of houses.
Those planets may still rule other planets which do rule cusps of houses, and so influence indirectly that way.
Those planets may still rule other planets which do rule cusps of houses, and so influence indirectly that way.
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Frisiangal
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The poster is asking about an astrological interpretation of technique , presumably in a system that can include 'intercepted signs'.
Imho, an explanation of that technique does not depend upon submitting a chart.
Have you been on the web to read the numerous articles on 'intercepted signs', LG?
There are many explanations, most of which consider the characteristics of the intercepted sign (thus, ruling no cusp) to be difficult in reaching their potential within the house it is situated. Interception implies opposing houses influence.
Yet each sign does have a ruler (traditional and/or modern) and the intercepted sign ruler's chart position can be just as strong in aiding
development of the meaning of the house, as the ruler of the cuspal sign.
You could find that the cusp ruler's further 'experience' towards its ruling house is dependent upon the intercepted sign ruler and its house position.
In that respect, providing individual working examples of how the interception technique can be interpretted is better when a chart is submitted.
Actually, I prefer to see the chart.
the intercepted signs can be ruled by planets IN that intercepted sign (within the house).
OR there could be NO planets in that intercepted sign, and the ruler of the sign unaspected.
OR the ruler of the the intercepted sign can be found on an angle.....
all off these can be modifiers of the "meaning" in this particular chart. So an intercepted sign can be powerful or weak...depending upon a number of indications.
LIN
the intercepted signs can be ruled by planets IN that intercepted sign (within the house).
OR there could be NO planets in that intercepted sign, and the ruler of the sign unaspected.
OR the ruler of the the intercepted sign can be found on an angle.....
all off these can be modifiers of the "meaning" in this particular chart. So an intercepted sign can be powerful or weak...depending upon a number of indications.
LIN
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If you approach astrology like a detective, investigative journalist or judge where weighting of different variables is tantamount to making the right call, you'd get closer to how the process of astrology works, rather than looking for it to give you a straightforward answer.
Saying that, some charts are more straightforward than others, no doubt.
There is no consensus on what it means when planets/signs are intercepted and if said planet happens to not have a house to rule as a result of it. Many times interceptions are an artifact of what house systems you use, my chart being an example as I have some house cusps right on the beginning of signs in Placidus. If you do incorporate intercepted signs in your practice, every planet will still have a say in what happens in the chart, as the subsumed sign will still be in a particular house, so it's ruler will have a say in what transpires for that house.
Saying that, some charts are more straightforward than others, no doubt.
There is no consensus on what it means when planets/signs are intercepted and if said planet happens to not have a house to rule as a result of it. Many times interceptions are an artifact of what house systems you use, my chart being an example as I have some house cusps right on the beginning of signs in Placidus. If you do incorporate intercepted signs in your practice, every planet will still have a say in what happens in the chart, as the subsumed sign will still be in a particular house, so it's ruler will have a say in what transpires for that house.
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Lex Gemini
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The poster is asking about an astrological interpretation of technique , presumably in a system that can include 'intercepted signs'.
Imho, an explanation of that technique does not depend upon submitting a chart.
Have you been on the web to read the numerous articles on 'intercepted signs', LG?
There are many explanations, most of which consider the characteristics of the intercepted sign (thus, ruling no cusp) to be difficult in reaching their potential within the house it is situated. Interception implies opposing houses influence.
Yet each sign does have a ruler (traditional and/or modern) and the intercepted sign ruler's chart position can be just as strong in aiding
development of the meaning of the house, as the ruler of the cuspal sign.
You could find that the cusp ruler's further 'experience' towards its ruling house is dependent upon the intercepted sign ruler and its house position.
In that respect, providing individual working examples of how the interception technique can be interpretted is better when a chart is submitted.
Actually I would have appreciated links to information that talk about each sign and each planet therefore involved in interception, but as the usual glib-quota goes, one must first express their animalistic nature, might as well mark their territory, is there a tree in here somewhere I can't see. Lol
Lex Gemini
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How I love to read what you write... Write more. I'm in love with your mind
JUPITERASC
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clearly
agreement is that it depends on the chart
i.e.
it depends on the chart
AngelsDelight
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Whats in your chart Jupiter asc that you spend an entire thread trying to prove your right!! Sounds like an astrological pxss contest not a meeting of minds! Disappointed. Lex Gemini was asking a very valid question which it appeared everyone answered but you. pffft! 
and please dont try proving how right you are again I think everyone fell asleep!
and please dont try proving how right you are again I think everyone fell asleep!It's not about "being right." Each person is unique. So is their chart. Giving specific information (as generalizations are pretty useless) without seeing a chart is like asking a doctor to diagnose an illness without examining the patients.
I hope you can understand that if these answers were "cut and dried" then everyone would be experts in reading charts!
It's a lifelong study....and you know, we don't like not having immediate answers but often it just isn't possible. We need to examine the patient (read the chart.)
LIN
I hope you can understand that if these answers were "cut and dried" then everyone would be experts in reading charts!
It's a lifelong study....and you know, we don't like not having immediate answers but often it just isn't possible. We need to examine the patient (read the chart.)
LIN
You are looking for simple answers to the complexity of a human being. Good luck with that.
Other than Sun and Moon, it is highly unlikely that a planet who rules two signs will see both of them intercepted. Whether intercepted or not, the signs are always ruled by a planet.
Interception is not unimportant. Its presence merely suggests a condition or situation out of the ordinary, requiring special attention. One of the reasons I continue to use the Placidus house system is that it produces intercepted signs, which are highly informative.
Other than Sun and Moon, it is highly unlikely that a planet who rules two signs will see both of them intercepted. Whether intercepted or not, the signs are always ruled by a planet.
Interception is not unimportant. Its presence merely suggests a condition or situation out of the ordinary, requiring special attention. One of the reasons I continue to use the Placidus house system is that it produces intercepted signs, which are highly informative.
I think we tend to forget that the horoscope is erected for the purpose of understanding and helping People. We get lost in the details of horoscopy. It's always about a person, about people.
It is quite rare, especially at the latitudes most people live at, to find a chart with any two pairs of signs intercepted. It would be rare indeed to find a chart with the two signs belonging to a single planet both intercepted. And in most cases, if they occurred at all, that would involve not just one but two planets "without rulership".
Even when a planet finds itself ruling an intercepted sign, it does not disappear from the chart. It's still there, but operates on another plane.
It is quite rare, especially at the latitudes most people live at, to find a chart with any two pairs of signs intercepted. It would be rare indeed to find a chart with the two signs belonging to a single planet both intercepted. And in most cases, if they occurred at all, that would involve not just one but two planets "without rulership".
Even when a planet finds itself ruling an intercepted sign, it does not disappear from the chart. It's still there, but operates on another plane.