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Unread 07-23-2020, 11:09 PM
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Are you saying that the white officer provoked him? One could vice versa say that the criminal record of the black man provoked the white officer.
Who are you talking about?

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Unread 07-23-2020, 11:11 PM
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I was responding to App's post, which mysteriously disappeared, asking "how can hate be a crime?"
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Who are you talking about?
Just suggesting double standards about responsibility and public uproar that people are terrified of.

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Hate is unhealthy and can be contagious. We're having a hate epidemic along with the Covid-19 epidemic.
This was in answer to "how can hate be considered a crime?"
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Just suggesting double standards that people are terrified of.
The general consensus is that the cop thought he could get away with blatantly killing Floyd because Floyd was a member of a racialized minority which isn't having it's Civil Rights respected by too many law enforcement officials, especially among the police.
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The general consensus is that the cop thought he could get away with blatantly killing Floyd because Floyd was a member of a racialized minority which isn't having it's Civil Rights respected by too many law enforcement officials, especially among the police.
I agree with this. But I also agree with Dirius that the media provides a skewed and unreliable picture of racism coming only from white people. This is clearly done to influence certain politics.

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I agree with this. But I also agree with Dirius that the media provides a skewed and unreliable picture of racism coming only from white people.
The media IS skewed and unreliable on a number of topics.
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"Hate crime" is about targeting a victim as a member of a group, rather than as an individual. It's usually applied to crimes committed against racialized and sexualized minorities.
I see, so making a violent stance over a white baby while his tiny arms are tied against his back, while tagging the picture with a racial message ("blm") is not a hate crime.

No racial outrage? Not offended at all? Not racist? Interesting.
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I see, so making a violent stance over a white baby while his tiny arms are tied against his back, while tagging the picture with a racial message ("blm") is not a hate crime.

No racial outrage? Not offended at all? Not racist? Interesting.
I wasnt outraged when Floyd died. Ive learned to not care about anything that isnt directly tied to me.

People die everyday; some worse than others. Its unproductive to get upset about every evil thing, otherwise, Id be endlessly sad.
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I wasn’t outraged when Floyd died. I’ve learned to not care about anything that isn’t directly tied to me.

People die everyday; some worse than others. It’s unproductive to get upset about every evil thing, otherwise, I’d be endlessly sad.
I'm clearly not referring to you Leo. You are not part of the group virtue signaling biased morals on racial issues.
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I'm clearly not referring to you Leo. You are not part of the group virtue signaling biased morals on racial issues.
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"Virtue signaling" is good, Dirius. It beats the alternatives, like ignorance-signaling, aggression-signalling, and illogic-signaling.

Anyone have a problem with virtue?

Arguably we need more of it.
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Lol like the left is virtuous
They signal vice and are proud of it
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The state of this post:

BLM activist putting his knee over a white baby and taking a picture: no outrage.

Wan claims she is not attracted to black people: everybody lost their minds.

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Lol like the left is virtuous
They signal vice and are proud of it
LOL. There's plenty of vice on both sides of the political aisle, AppLeo.

As I said, I think we need more virtue. For sure, in politics.
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Dirius, of course that shouldn't have happened. But most of us don't feel the need to belabor that it shouldn't have happened. When we say we're against violence, we mean it. We don't see the need to itemize it.

I think it's funny that you use all those emoticons.
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I see, so making a violent stance over a white baby while his tiny arms are tied against his back, while tagging the picture with a racial message ("blm") is not a hate crime.

No racial outrage? Not offended at all? Not racist? Interesting.
It was a disgusting social media stunt by a guy begging for attention. Unless the child was physically injured, he'll probably just have to go back to prison on a parole violation for whatever he was incarcerated for in the first place.
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LOL. There's plenty of vice on both sides of the political aisle, AppLeo.

As I said, I think we need more virtue. For sure, in politics.
Of course we need more virtue pathbread, but virtue seems to be a subjective term
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Of course we need more virtue pathbread, but virtue seems to be a subjective term
What's virtue got to do with politics, Applesauce?
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What's virtue got to do with politics, Applesauce?
Morality underlies politics

If you think stealing is moral and acceptable for example, then obviously youll be a socialist or a left winger in general.
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Morality underlies politics

If you think stealing is moral and acceptable for example, then obviously youll be a socialist or a left winger in general.
There's no "morality" in politics. It's just about getting elected in order to enrich yourself, your cronies, and whoever makes the most donations. That goes for the Right-wingers as well.
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It was a disgusting social media stunt by a guy begging for attention. Unless the child was physically injured, he'll probably just have to go back to prison on a parole violation for whatever he was incarcerated for in the first place.

Yeah, has nothing to do with the peddling political climate in the U.S.? right?
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Yeah, has nothing to do with the peddling political climate in the U.S.? right?
Worst political climate I've ever witnessed.
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Dirius, of course that shouldn't have happened. But most of us don't feel the need to belabor that it shouldn't have happened. When we say we're against violence, we mean it. We don't see the need to itemize it.

I think it's funny that you use all those emoticons.
Yes so you don't talk about what is inconvinient for your stance correct?

I asked if what the man did was racist, still no answer.

Black man takes picture with his knee on a white baby. Tags a slogan for a race-based political movement. But lets not talk about that, cause its inconvinient for the leftist cause lol.
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There's no "morality" in politics. It's just about getting elected in order to enrich yourself, your cronies, and whoever makes the most donations. That goes for the Right-wingers as well.

So you are saying the solution is to have a minimal form of government? or no government at all?
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