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I've read a lot about the individual conjunctions of Neptune to the AC and Uranus to the AC, but what about their combined energy?

I feel like I see how people can easily project onto me what they want to see and I play into that expectation beneficially. I think I come across in a kind of spacey way, like I'm day dreaming and not paying attention. This can be attributed to Neptune, which is the closer conjunction, 3 degrees exact.

The Uranus conjunct AC maybe makes me come across like my mind is working a mile a minute and I may appear upon first impression as unconventional or 'weird'.

The Capricorn influence confuses me. I don't think I come across as serious or public image obsessed. I do care about hard work and I'll probably be married to my job when I graduate, but I wonder if that's more the Jupiter conjunct Midheaven in Scorpio aspect.

Additionally, some people say I have a psychic/intuitive energy and am able to read people very well. The Piscean influence, some consider it a stellium, adds to the spacey day-dreaming quality that I have. I also have an addictive escapist personality, because I like to float off into the universe and create a lot of extreme day dreams and experiences that don't exist in the 'real world'.

Taking into consideration the influence of Capricorn, AC, Neptune, and Uranus together, how would my first impression come across to others? Muddled?

I'm also curious as to how this would affect my chart ruler. I know Saturn is my chart ruler, but with the conjunctions of Neptune and Uranus, does this negate the Saturnian influence or round out the energy? What planet would be strongest/most influential in my chart?
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Re: Neptune and Uranus Conjunct AC: Influence on Saturn Chart Ruler?

I think the Sun is your most important planet, it's the least aspected, 3aspects to Asc,Uranus,Neptune. That's quite important the Sun in the 4H aspecting the 1H. I have the same 1H as you do and i believe that configuration can be quite spiritual-mystical. The key again may be the Sun in 4H conjunct IC (the unconscious- where we come from). The IC is the darkest place in the chart compared to the 12H, the IC is more personal, Overall how do you feel about your Sun here? Despite your Sun being here i believe it's quite free compared to the other planets.
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Hello!

I've read a lot about the individual conjunctions of Neptune to the AC and Uranus to the AC, but what about their combined energy?

I feel like I see how people can easily project onto me what they want to see and I play into that expectation beneficially. I think I come across in a kind of spacey way, like I'm day dreaming and not paying attention. This can be attributed to Neptune, which is the closer conjunction, 3 degrees exact.

The Uranus conjunct AC maybe makes me come across like my mind is working a mile a minute and I may appear upon first impression as unconventional or 'weird'.

The Capricorn influence confuses me. I don't think I come across as serious or public image obsessed. I do care about hard work and I'll probably be married to my job when I graduate, but I wonder if that's more the Jupiter conjunct Midheaven in Scorpio aspect.

Additionally, some people say I have a psychic/intuitive energy and am able to read people very well. The Piscean influence, some consider it a stellium, adds to the spacey day-dreaming quality that I have. I also have an addictive escapist personality, because I like to float off into the universe and create a lot of extreme day dreams and experiences that don't exist in the 'real world'.

Taking into consideration the influence of Capricorn, AC, Neptune, and Uranus together, how would my first impression come across to others? Muddled?

I'm also curious as to how this would affect my chart ruler. I know Saturn is my chart ruler, but with the conjunctions of Neptune and Uranus, does this negate the Saturnian influence or round out the energy? What planet would be strongest/most influential in my chart?
I think it's a beautiful configuration, my Asc sits on 1 ♑ so no tight conjunctions for me, yet i really do feel those energies too as you described, i am alot of things to different people, with me you might get what you are looking for -that's Neptune. Same with the uranian vibe. But i think the important thing for our configuration at this time is the planets transiting the 1H right now - Saturn, Pluto. These planets will ensure the crystallization of a self-identity
that can be elusive with these combination in the previous years. I am already feeling it. Pluto is on 20 now.
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I think the Sun is your most important planet, it's the least aspected, 3aspects to Asc,Uranus,Neptune. That's quite important the Sun in the 4H aspecting the 1H. I have the same 1H as you do and i believe that configuration can be quite spiritual-mystical. The key again may be the Sun in 4H conjunct IC (the unconscious- where we come from). The IC is the darkest place in the chart compared to the 12H, the IC is more personal, Overall how do you feel about your Sun here? Despite your Sun being here i believe it's quite free compared to the other planets.
That's a very interesting perspective! I will mention that my sun is in the 3rd house square AC, Neptune, and Uranus, but my Venus is conjunct the IC in the 4th house.

I'm laughing because I live in self-imposed isolation in terms of romance. I do not **** with **** boys or **** girls and I tend to fear intimacy, so if you're going by the IC being the darkest place in the chart, besides 12H and more personal, I'd say I agree. I do not really deal with romantic love and partnership. I avoid it. My Venus in 4H conjunct IC is also opposite Jupiter and MC, so I'm wondering how this plays out. I'm 24 and never held hands with anyone or kissed or anything like that. I just don't feel the need.

As to my experience with my sun, I feel like people grow into their sun signs and this is certainly the case with me. I'm building self-awareness of my leadership capabilities and my passions. My therapist once told me that Aries are rams and they either jump over obstacles or head butt right into them. That's me to a T.
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I think it's a beautiful configuration, my Asc sits on 1 ♑ so no tight conjunctions for me, yet i really do feel those energies too as you described, i am alot of things to different people, with me you might get what you are looking for -that's Neptune. Same with the uranian vibe. But i think the important thing for our configuration at this time is the planets transiting the 1H right now - Saturn, Pluto. These planets will ensure the crystallization of a self-identity
that can be elusive with these combination in the previous years. I am already feeling it. Pluto is on 20 now.
I dig. Pluto transiting my AC for the past few years and retrograding back over the AC, means that I have Pluto passing over my AC at least three times. It's been a roller coaster ride. I'm in a state of semi-permanent catharsis, it feels.
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Re: Neptune and Uranus Conjunct AC: Influence on Saturn Chart Ruler?

Following the thread on Pluto transiting, i suppose you could expect a very intense personal life as life goes by.. Look at this way, Pluto will transit 2H, 3H, 4H for the majority of your life.. Then you look at your MC (where you are going in life) is Scorpio - Your birth chart is really saying something.. And i think major transformations will be in [ who you are in everyday life - aries ]
[ what you have in your roots to ancestry, family, past life, unconscious -Taurus ] mainly because of the stelliums i see there sha. I know am reaching here but i suppose this life could be of major rebirths as you get much older. Maybe you are preparing for the next life in this one
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Following the thread on Pluto transiting, i suppose you could expect a very intense personal life as life goes by.. Look at this way, Pluto will transit 2H, 3H, 4H for the majority of your life.. Then you look at your MC (where you are going in life) is Scorpio - Your birth chart is really saying something.. And i think major transformations will be in [ who you are in everyday life - aries ]
[ what you have in your roots to ancestry, family, past life, unconscious -Taurus ] mainly because of the stelliums i see there sha. I know am reaching here but i suppose this life could be of major rebirths as you get much older. Maybe you are preparing for the next life in this one
Yeah the Scorpion influence is heavily felt in my personal life. I also love power and come into it very often. I think that's Jupiter conjunct MC by 11 minutes in the 10H. I doubt I'll ever stabilize since I thrive in conflict and crisis. I'll probably make a career out of it.

A psychic once told me that I'd either sleep to the top or bring an organization crashing down through being a whistle-blower or something like that. I do have a strong moral compass and I'm not afraid f*ck sh*t up.

What do you count as a stellium? Do you consider my Pluto, MC, Jupiter, and NN a Scorpio stellium? I consider myself to have a Pisces stellium, but I've never considered Scorpio. Also, if you go by three angles/planets being a stellium, then do I have a Cap stellium too? lol I think I count four or more myself.
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Re: Neptune and Uranus Conjunct AC: Influence on Saturn Chart Ruler?

Do you have a very high IQ? Do you know your IQ?

I believe Jupiter is the ruler of your chart. It conjuncts your MC exactly. It's a powerful force.
The ruler of the ASC is often the ruler if there is no elevated planet. But not in this case. Jupiter is the most elevated you can get. And in Scorpio? wow.

Also Uranus-Neptune on the ASC is very difficult. It's hard to understand your own personality and it's hard to have a clear and distinct appraisal of other people.
Uranus is the planet of eccentricity and Neptune is the planet of deception. Put them together and it is really hard to "know thyself." .....let alone allow others "in" to your world.

If I were you I would study Saturn conj Moon. this probably will tell you a lot.

You probably CAN read people - but the accuracy of it can vary wildly depending upon the other person's ASC planets or other dynamics in the chart. You are also influenced by transits to the planets on your Asc. So from VERY accurate to "totally off" -

Hopefully as you mature you will find good positive uses for this gift (and curse.) It's hard on relationships to have ANY heavy planets on the ASC. And it's hard on relationships to have Saturn conj moon. Trust me on this.
Just one more thing: I've seen this position before. In many guises. There's a dual dynamic possibility Of either "victim or savior" inherent in these positions. I'm pretty sure you may tend toward the "savior" mode. Beware. Just warning you. You can't save anyone from psychic wounds.

Keep the focus on yourself before attempting to work on the issues of others. It can be a trap and also it can become an addiction.


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