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If you go to the extended charts on astro.com, Sections > Pullen/Astrolog > Chart Type: Aspect/Midpoint Grid, you can see your midpoints without having to do the hand calculations.

I don't know much about Marilyn Monroe, other than she has Neptune in the 1H like me. What about her fascinates you?
I related to Marilyn instinctively from a young age because she’s a lost child basically. No nastiness or meanness, just lost underwater in her problems, with no roots.

Neptune in 1st house would really give a beautiful nature for everybody I imagine. Neptune is wonderful, but also not to be underestimated just because it’s not strident or bombastic like the other outers, and comes with its difficulties too obviously.

But it doesn’t lack combativeness either, Neptune can hide in plain sight and can really connect to the unseen, using the power of others against them.

Neptune is where fairies and mermaids and every mystical creature unites to dance away the night in the sea of lost,beautiful souls!
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"....there's no success like failure, and failure's no success at all."-{Bob Dylan}
The willingness to fail is absolutely integral to one's continuing success. My professor used to tell the class, 'give yourself the license to fail'. I take that to mean, take risks. Don't be so averse to high stakes that you play it safe all the time. Playing it safe, at least to me, entails (but is not limited to) going with the popular opinion, thinking inside the box, etc.

To me, thinking inside the box is when you're interested in one field or one idea, and you limit yourself to receiving only information aligned with your field/idea/beliefs. For instance, Marc Yu, that musical prodigy, could see music in every aspect of life and I think that greatly contributed to his success. It might have downfalls, like, you're a hammer and everything's a nail, but it can also have high rewards. He thought outside the box and didn't limit himself to preconceived constraints and opinions of what 'music' is.
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''In order to get over the ethical difficulties presented by the naive naturalism of many parts of those Scriptures, in the divine authority of which he firmly believed, Philo borrowed from the Stoics (who had been in like straits in respect of Greek mythology), that great Excalibur which they had forged with infinite pains and skill—the method of allegorical interpretation. This mighty 'two-handed engine at the door' of the theologian is warranted to make a speedy end of any and every moral or intellectual difficulty, by showing that, taken allegorically or, as it is otherwise said, 'poetically' or, 'in a spiritual sense,' the plainest words mean whatever a pious interpreter desires they should mean.'' - Thomas Henry Huxley, The Evolution Of Theology: An Anthropological Study

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Occurs to me we're a Domination species. Bummer!

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Another example of thinking inside the box, imo, is when authors of say, fantasy, read exclusively fantasy novels. It's hard to make a meaningful and 'original' (whatever that means) plot and set of dynamic characters. I really feel like pushing the envelope of what it means to write in a certain genre is very cool.

I think authors who write meaningful pieces, go out into the world and fail and are rejected and really experience life, developing their own unique perspective along the way. A lot of research and experience should go into writing. When I was writing fantasy novels consistently, I would read a lot of nonfiction for inspiration: history, anthropology, grammar, music (I enjoyed reading movie scores especially), current events, pop physics, biology, etc. In hindsight, I think I drew inspiration from too limited a pool. I never wrote anything I'm particularly proud of, but I reserve the right to try again in the future. lol


Anyway, I think anyone who has a high level of success sees the world through the pattern of their interest, but I probably should investigate this thought more.

I'm really on a ramble today. Feel free to stop me any time! haha
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I related to Marilyn instinctively from a young age because she’s a lost child basically. No nastiness or meanness, just lost underwater in her problems, with no roots.

Neptune in 1st house would really give a beautiful nature for everybody I imagine. Neptune is wonderful, but also not to be underestimated just because it’s not strident or bombastic like the other outers, and comes with its difficulties too obviously.

But it doesn’t lack combativeness either, Neptune can hide in plain sight and can really connect to the unseen, using the power of others against them.

Neptune is where fairies and mermaids and every mystical creature unites to dance away the night in the sea of lost,beautiful souls!
I do wonder if Neptune on my AC in 1H has anything to do with my unusual dissociative issues and ongoing identity confusion. lol

Edit: I was thinking of the lost child concept you gave at the beginning of this quote.

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Another example of thinking inside the box, imo, is when authors of say, fantasy, read exclusively fantasy novels. It's hard to make a meaningful and 'original' (whatever that means) plot and set of dynamic characters. I really feel like pushing the envelope of what it means to write in a certain genre is very cool.

I think authors who write meaningful pieces, go out into the world and fail and are rejected and really experience life, developing their own unique perspective along the way. A lot of research and experience should go into writing. When I was writing fantasy novels consistently, I would read a lot of nonfiction for inspiration: history, anthropology, grammar, music (I enjoyed reading movie scores especially), current events, pop physics, biology, etc. In hindsight, I think I drew inspiration from too limited a pool. I never wrote anything I'm particularly proud of, but I reserve the right to try again in the future. lol


Anyway, I think anyone who has a high level of success sees the world through the pattern of their interest, but I probably should investigate this thought more.

I'm really on a ramble today. Feel free to stop me any time! haha
You're a published author?
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The Harry Potter phenomenon affected an entire generation. It's not great fantasy [IMO], but the timing was impeccable.
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Omg no! Sorry I gave you that impression. I wrote only for myself.
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The Harry Potter phenomenon affected an entire generation. It's not great fantasy [IMO], but the timing was impeccable.
Have you ever read the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan? Fabulous. It's on that next level epic fantasy like Tolkien. It's actually fairly Tolkien-esque, but it goes so much deeper and the interweaving plots and dynamic characterization is inspirational to me. It's far better than Game of Thrones, imo.
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Omg no! Sorry I gave you that impression. I wrote only for myself.
I set out to write a novel/novella a year in high school. Varying levels of success and lost forever on crashed computers. lol I was really into nanowrimo. Did it every year. lol
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Have you ever read the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan? Fabulous. It's on that next level epic fantasy like Tolkien. It's actually fairly Tolkien-esque, but it goes so much deeper and the interweaving plots and dynamic characterization is inspirational to me. It's far better than Game of Thrones, imo.
Does it have its own languages and everything?
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I do wonder if Neptune on my AC in 1H has anything to do with my unusual dissociative issues and ongoing identity confusion. lol

Edit: I was thinking of the lost child concept you gave at the beginning of this quote.
probably does, just like whoam1
I still don't think he's even discovered his sun sign in any system
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Does it have its own languages and everything?
Yeah, but the linguistic aspect of the series' concept is not quite as pronounced as Tolkien or GOT.
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probably does, just like whoam1
I still don't think he's even discovered his sun sign in any system
Who is whoam1?? whoam1 has Neptune-Uranus on AC??? We can be buds.

And what do you mean he hasn't discovered his sun sign? lol
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The willingness to fail is absolutely integral to one's continuing success. My professor used to tell the class, 'give yourself the license to fail'. I take that to mean, take risks. Don't be so averse to high stakes that you play it safe all the time. Playing it safe, at least to me, entails (but is not limited to) going with the popular opinion, thinking inside the box, etc.

To me, thinking inside the box is when you're interested in one field or one idea, and you limit yourself to receiving only information aligned with your field/idea/beliefs. For instance, Marc Yu, that musical prodigy, could see music in every aspect of life and I think that greatly contributed to his success. It might have downfalls, like, you're a hammer and everything's a nail, but it can also have high rewards. He thought outside the box and didn't limit himself to preconceived constraints and opinions of what 'music' is.
I think these are a few things I have going for me. I'm not really afraid to fail. I just get up and learn and take meaning from it. And I'm not afraid to go all in with my personal views and ideas whether they line up with what everyone else thinks or not. I'll hope I might be successful one day as I know I'm not the kinda person who could live an 'ordinary life'. It's really do or die for me. I either make my little idiosyncratic plans work, or nothing. Altho I'm stubborn enough to say that even if I fail a million times eventually I'll make it work
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Who is whoam1?? whoam1 has Neptune-Uranus on AC??? We can be buds.

And what do you mean he hasn't discovered his sun sign? lol
I'm not sure about his Uranus since he's younger than you and I and doesn't have the conjunction, but he has Neptune on his AC

and lol, what I mean is that he's made a myriad posts rejecting his birth placements clinging to either Scorpio(since we all know how glorified Scorpio is), or I think Sagittarius at one point. And each time, he would seem to take on the persona of whatever sign he was attached to. At one point he switched to Pisces and took on this guru persona

Very intelligent kid tho


Waybread has her Neptune on the ASC. My sister has Uranus and Neptune on her ASC too. She was born the same year as you
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David remember i asked you a little while back what my PR moon crossing my PR venus may bring ?

Well its happened, and im still alive lol. You did say it wouldn't be anything bad.

So this is what its brought. About 3 weeks ago it started (Pr moon was mins separating from Pr venus) i suddenly decided i wanted to start eating healthier and taking vitamins...and i don't do things by halves, so im not on about taking a daily multivitamin, i researched a whole host of vitamins, and have started so far to take vit A, Vit E, Codliver oil, apple cider vinegar, Ginkgo Biloba (to help with memory), Vit B.

And yes my Pr moon rules my Pr 6th house.
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I'm not sure about his Uranus since he's younger than you and I and doesn't have the conjunction, but he has Neptune on his AC

and lol, what I mean is that he's made a myriad posts rejecting his birth placements clinging to either Scorpio(since we all know how glorified Scorpio is), or I think Sagittarius at one point. And each time, he would seem to take on the persona of whatever sign he was attached to. At one point he switched to Pisces and took on this guru persona

Very intelligent kid tho


Waybread has her Neptune on the ASC. My sister has Uranus and Neptune on her ASC too. She was born the same year as you
Ohhhh I see. I have several different personas that I use, depending on the social situation. There's kid kat, executive kat, former chill druggie kat, investigator kat. Idk it depends. People are complex.

Someone told me they like astrology, because it's so unique and individual to a person, really paints a picture as opposed to forcing a concrete generalized structure around someone like with mbti and stuff. I really like that perspective.
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Ohhhh I see. I have several different personas that I use, depending on the social situation. There's kid kat, executive kat, former chill druggie kat, investigator kat. Idk it depends. People are complex.

Someone told me they like astrology, because it's so unique and individual to a person, really paints a picture as opposed to forcing a concrete structure around someone like with mbti and stuff. I really like that perspective.
I feel like I have something similar going on for me except it's more emotionally based and I have zero control over it. It feels more like various spirits possess me and depending on which inhabits me, my writing style changes, my personality changes, my music preferences change, my clothing style may change slightly or drastically, how I interact with others changes


I think it's just because I'm so emotional, possibly


actually, I endeavoured for fun to write about each of my personalities, an idea I got from someone else. I haven't done it yet, but I want ot do it to where they're all in dialogue with each other at some point
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I feel like I have something similar going on for me except it's more emotionally based and I have zero control over it. It feels more like various spirits possess me and depending on which inhabits me, my writing style changes, my personality changes, my music preferences change, my clothing style may change slightly, how I interact with others changes


I think it's just because I'm so emotional, possibly


actually, I endeavoured for fun to write about each of my personalities, an idea I got from someone else. I haven't done it yet, but I want ot do it to where they're all in dialogue with each other at some point
One of my therapists suggested parts therapy, which is similar if not the same as your writing idea. You have the different facets of yourself talk to each other. At the time, I was concerned about dissociative identity disorder, so I didn't do it myself. lol I was worried it would go in the opposite direction of integration, but I don't think that's necessarily the case.

I don't know if people have a lot of control over how they feel. I'm still undecided on that. I don't think people are as consistent as they wish they were. People connect with others via labels and words and concepts that facilitate mutual understanding. It's kind of in our nature to try to fit into boxes. I think that's functional for most people. Anyway, I recognize I'm inconsistent in some ways and I don't think that's particularly unusual if people are paying attention to the inner workings of their mind and behaviors.

I mean, people are hypocrites because it's near-impossible to adhere to one modus operandi, at least imo. I reserve the right to change my mind though. lol
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One of my therapists suggested parts therapy, which is similar if not the same as your writing idea. You have the different facets of yourself talk to each other. At the time, I was concerned about dissociative identity disorder, so I didn't do it myself. lol I was worried it would go in the opposite direction of integration, but I don't think that's necessarily the case.

I don't know if people have a lot of control over how they feel. I'm still undecided on that. I don't think people are as consistent as they wish they were. People connect with others via labels and words and concepts that facilitate mutual understanding. It's kind of in our nature to try to fit into boxes. I think that's functional for most people. Anyway, I recognize I'm inconsistent in some ways and I don't think that's particularly unusual if people are paying attention to the inner workings of their mind and behaviors.

I mean, people are hypocrites because it's near-impossible to adhere to one modus operandi, at least imo. I reserve the right to change my mind though. lol
oh I've never feared my own self possibly having that disorder despite admitting to having over 13 different personalities that I've noted so far. It doesn't go that far. I still retain my core self, but my core self happens to be extremely emotional and not only that, the kinda self that is shamelessly itself. Given to surrender in a way. If I feel something, I will not deny it even if what I feel would seem to directly contradict what I felt yesterday and the day before and the day before that. We are ever evolving creatures anyway. I go with the process even tho it's a strange one and I just let myself be myself

I thought that exercise would be intriguing to understand myself better and to perhaps even name my various personalities, even play with giving them various backstories and the such. just for fun

I've had dissociative episodes I think I've told you, but it was lower on the spectrum. More like extreme detachment from reality associated with depression. Then again I had it associated with a paranoid psychotic episode in which I simultaneously started doubting what was real and what wasn't and if anything but me even was real. I've also had recurring dreams(they've stopped) of having blackouts and doing things I couldn't remember, but I think that was just fear because I didn't understand all that was happening with me and where it would all end

You're right, I don't think inconsistency is absurd. Most people think it is, but it shouldn't be. I look at myself as weird because there seems to be a collective concept that people are one thing and one thing only, but can't be many. And they can't change their minds, they can't have different moods, they can't have thoughts that aren't quite set in stone yet and are therefor malleable

I don't think I'm unlike most people save for the fact that I shamelessly indulge in whatever mood I'm in as I see it as my current truth and what must be explored for the time being. I've at times had trouble with wanting to be in a different personality than the one I'm currently in, but I have to learn to appreciate the mutable nature of it all

and of course. That's one of the most absurd things to me. People will act like you've committed high treason if you change your mind. Maybe you found new info, maybe things cemented more in your mind, maybe you thought more about them...
--we're inherently changeable creatures and it's funny that that fact strikes so many as odd or suspect
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Yeah, but the linguistic aspect of the series' concept is not quite as pronounced as Tolkien or GOT.
I've always been interested in creating my own language. But lately I've become more fascinating with my native tongue(English) spoken backwards and possibly even incorporating that into things I write


that would be in poetry and possible soundscape I create as that's something I've been interested in doing for a while for my own sake. Since they're gonna be soundscapes to kinda soak in my mood and even aid in indulging myself in lower levels of consciousness, language is gonna become looser and looser


in any case, I love fantasy, if you say it's more engaging in other aspects, that would be enough to grab me
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