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In my view, because emphasis is placed on them and understanding how they function for us and within us. It may be different than how they function for others, but there is that emphasis placed so by extension if one doesnít become a victim of their retrogrades, they become a master of them

And I suppose they may be more internal and introverted, but that gives them a depth and independence that can become a strength
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Re: 7 planets retrograde

I wonder how many become victims of their retrogrades, how many masters?

How does that work?
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Re: 7 planets retrograde

One thing to keep in mind, Staci, is that natal retrograde planets will often go direct by progression. We never lose our natal chart, but it can have mitigating factors over time.

Two of my retrograde planets have since turned direct by progression. One has continued to go retrograde to the extent that it no longer opposes my sun.

Basically with so-called secondary progressions, we look at the ephemeris (time-table of planets) or just ask the computer to do the work for us. We set one year of our life equal to one day in the ephemeris. For example, a 20-year old would count 20 days on the ephemeris from her birth date, and see what the planets are doing now.

The outer planets move very slowly, but the moon moves relatively quickly. Planets that change sign and house by progression normally do signal a change in the person's life.
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Wow yes this is crazy how you all know this

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Thanks, Lykan.


@OP True, you have 7 retrogrades, but 5 are of social and outer ones. So if anything, you can take comfort in knowing several people of your generation are feeling at least 5 retrogrades


I have 5 retrogrades myself, with Merc being the only personal one. Retrogrades require you to work harder to develop the energy of the planets. Retrograde planets are misunderstood at youth, but they get better with age. In short, retrogrades aren't for laziness.


I'm more concerned about your clutter in 12H though, especially with Merc and Venus opposite Pluto. You also have Sun opposite Saturn. Do you have doubt about everyone and everything, including yourself? Merc is in Aries and form aspects to Moon and Neptune. Maybe you are an emotional thinker and you aren't as objective as you would like to. I have a feeling that you are easily hurt and once you are hurt you become very doubtful. Moon in 1H and opposite Neptune, your emotional life is of great importance to you and you are prone of mood swing. Is that the reason why you feel so bad?
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Thanks for the feedback.
What is 12 h clutter?

QUOTE=Gemini888;976181]Thanks, Lykan.


@OP True, you have 7 retrogrades, but 5 are of social and outer ones. So if anything, you can take comfort in knowing several people of your generation are feeling at least 5 retrogrades


I have 5 retrogrades myself, with Merc being the only personal one. Retrogrades require you to work harder to develop the energy of the planets. Retrograde planets are misunderstood at youth, but they get better with age. In short, retrogrades aren't for laziness.


I'm more concerned about your clutter in 12H though, especially with Merc and Venus opposite Pluto. You also have Sun opposite Saturn. Do you have doubt about everyone and everything, including yourself? Merc is in Aries and form aspects to Moon and Neptune. Maybe you are an emotional thinker and you aren't as objective as you would like to. I have a feeling that you are easily hurt and once you are hurt you become very doubtful. Moon in 1H and opposite Neptune, your emotional life is of great importance to you and you are prone of mood swing. Is that the reason why you feel so bad?[/QUOTE]
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Re: 7 planets retrograde

Hi Staci,

Know that you are not alone, you have fellow friends who are going through the same ordeal .. and have asked the same questions. I myself have 6r planets. I posted a thread some time ago where you can read some of our thoughts here:

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...ad.php?t=82480

I do think once you can master this energy, you will become stronger and happier. Doesnt happiness come from inside?
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Re: 7 planets retrograde

Yes but in addition to that I have sun, mercury, and Venus in my 12th house
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Re: 7 planets retrograde

Having 5 retrograde planets myself and a strong Uranian signature, I'm happy to stick out from the herd. Why would I want to be like everyone else?

But Pluto is retrograde during something like 1/3 of a 12-month year. It's hard to distinguish its effect. Saturn is always retrograde when opposite the sun . Here I think the problem is the opposition, not Saturn being retrograde.

I once read that people with natal Mercury retrograde actually do fine when Mercury turns retrograde by transit. It's like we're finally in synch.

With Mercury retrograde natally I'm a great believer in Murphy's law. I normally build a lot of redundancy into travel plans and important communications, things that transiting Mercury retrograde supposedly messes up.
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Does that say there is a chance to cancel our something bad?

[QUOTE=kshantaram;976871]
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hope helps reflections to adapt as relevant, share how true-insightful,
traits-talents-health etc etc :


Moon-rahu NNode gemini asc, dazzling personality, clever, humorous,
instrumental foreign music, acting skills, business analyst, foreign travels,
good at general knowledge, information gathering/processing,
confused at decision making;

moon lord 2nd negating to first, negating family-finances;

moon-rahu rise-fall in life, prayers for ancestors,
observe fast No-moon dark evenings;
observe death anniversaries religiously;
wear brown hessonite over pendant;

asc lord mer retro aries 12th tending to foreign lands,
aptitude for writings, better at written communications;

mer retro towards pisces, emotional and confused;
wear green emerald over pendant touching heart;


sun-venus own taurus 12th, artistic aptitudes, international cuisine,
aptitude for hotel management, banking, dentistry, etc
venus combust, needing zinc supplements,
wear 0.25 carat diamond over platinum pendant touching heart;

sun-sat opp 6/12 houses, impacting health-employment;
veus-sat opp craving for affection, but difficult to manifest,
mutual health issues in relationship/marriage;

sat-mars scorpio 6th, stress-struggle in health-employment,
secretive, suspicious, sentimental, sarcastic, passionate;
research-occult and forensic-metallurgical-mechanical aptitudes;

retrograde mars negating and delaying employment;
mars 6th accident prone and coping with opponents;
intestinal-urological inflammations;

retrograde malefic mars more malefic and intensive;
prayers to Mother Goddess tues evenings,
offer red flowers at the alter at home,
and observe fast;

sag-jup 7th inimical-malefic for gemini asc,
stress in marriage-vocation;
ketu separative SNode inimical sag,
prone to detachment in relationship,
pain-injury-surgery abdominals-thighs etc;

jup lord 7th over 8th debilated cap,
health issues for spouse probably;

retro jup towards own sag 7th,
growth riches through advisory roles,
but under stress-delays;
jup now transit own sag 7th for marriage-vocation
under stress-delays;


wear yellow sapphire over pendant for debilated jup;
moon lord of elevation for jup over gemini asc,
debilation cancelled, gradually improvement in health;
jup elevated aspect cancer 2nd
protective of family-finances-speech/singing etc;

Sat-ketu separative Node 1.5yr transit jup-cap 8th,
chronic pain-injury-surgery liver-knees-urological etc to care;
jup lord 7th for husband-spouse;


prayers to Christ, offer red flowers thurs mornings;


do promptly ack, share salient pointwise feedbacks,


wishing well, kshantaram
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Can you elaborate about the clutter 12h. I did some research after you said that & im like geez I go from worrying about the 7 retrografes to now this. Does that mean I will go to jail? Iím really concerned

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QUOTE=Gemini888;976181]Thanks, Lykan.


@OP True, you have 7 retrogrades, but 5 are of social and outer ones. So if anything, you can take comfort in knowing several people of your generation are feeling at least 5 retrogrades


I have 5 retrogrades myself, with Merc being the only personal one. Retrogrades require you to work harder to develop the energy of the planets. Retrograde planets are misunderstood at youth, but they get better with age. In short, retrogrades aren't for laziness.


I'm more concerned about your clutter in 12H though, especially with Merc and Venus opposite Pluto. You also have Sun opposite Saturn. Do you have doubt about everyone and everything, including yourself? Merc is in Aries and form aspects to Moon and Neptune. Maybe you are an emotional thinker and you aren't as objective as you would like to. I have a feeling that you are easily hurt and once you are hurt you become very doubtful. Moon in 1H and opposite Neptune, your emotional life is of great importance to you and you are prone of mood swing. Is that the reason why you feel so bad?[/QUOTE]
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You're a rare bird. From what I've read, you're synchronizing unfinished past-life business. This sounds rather exciting!

Don't despair! You're very special to have gotten to such a powerful place of rare opportunity!
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Re: 7 planets retrograde

Thanks for pointing that out. This has been such strange time for me. Reflecting and comparing times and events. They are unbelievably right on. I havenít seen my real dad in years. My mom had me illegally adopted by another man when I was 4. You would think he would be happy to see me but when I turned back around he was gone. I work at a bar and maybe he didnít see me, im positive he did.
My mother is an absolutley evil and abusive character.
No one would know though she plays the martyer
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[QUOTE=kshantaram;976871][QUOTE=kshantaram;976206]
hope helps reflections to adapt as relevant, share how true-insightful,
traits-talents-health, Positives-negatives, etc etc :


Moon-rahu NNode gemini asc, dazzling personality, clever, humorous,
instrumental foreign music, acting skills, business analyst, foreign travels,
good at general knowledge, information gathering/processing,

confused at decision making;

moon lord 2nd negating to first, negating family-finances;

moon-rahu rise-fall in life, prayers for ancestors,
observe fast No-moon dark evenings;
observe death anniversaries religiously;
wear brown hessonite over pendant;

asc lord mer retro aries 12th tending to foreign lands,
aptitude for writings, better at written communications;


mer retro towards pisces, emotional and confused;
wear green emerald over pendant touching heart;


sun-venus own taurus 12th, artistic aptitudes, international cuisine,
aptitude for hotel management, banking, dentistry, etc

venus combust, needing zinc supplements,
wear 0.25 carat diamond over platinum pendant touching heart;

sun-sat opp 6/12 houses, impacting health-employment;
veus-sat opp craving for affection, but difficult to manifest,
mutual health issues in relationship/marriage;

sat-mars scorpio 6th, stress-struggle in health-employment,
secretive, suspicious, sentimental, sarcastic, passionate;
research-occult and forensic-metallurgical-mechanical aptitudes;

retrograde mars negating and delaying employment;
mars 6th accident prone and coping with opponents;
intestinal-urological inflammations;

retrograde malefic mars more malefic and intensive;
prayers to Mother Goddess tues evenings,
offer red flowers at the alter at home,
and observe fast;

sag-jup 7th inimical-malefic for gemini asc,
stress in marriage-vocation;
ketu separative SNode inimical sag,
prone to detachment in relationship,
pain-injury-surgery abdominals-thighs etc;

jup lord 7th over 8th debilated cap,
health issues for spouse probably;

retro jup towards own sag 7th,
growth riches through advisory roles,

but under stress-delays;
jup now transit own sag 7th for marriage-vocation
under stress-delays;


wear yellow sapphire over pendant for debilated jup;
moon lord of elevation for jup over gemini asc,
debilation cancelled, gradually improvement in health;
jup elevated aspect cancer 2nd
protective of family-finances-speech/singing etc;


Sat-ketu separative Node 1.5yr transit jup-cap 8th,
chronic pain-injury-surgery liver-knees-urological etc to care;
jup lord 7th for husband-spouse;


prayers to Christ, offer red flowers thurs mornings;


do promptly ack, share salient pointwise feedbacks,


wishing well, kshantaram
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When is that 1.5 year Jupiter transit


[QUOTE=kshantaram;978105][QUOTE=kshantaram;976871]
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hope helps reflections to adapt as relevant, share how true-insightful,
traits-talents-health, Positives-negatives, etc etc :


Moon-rahu NNode gemini asc, dazzling personality, clever, humorous,
instrumental foreign music, acting skills, business analyst, foreign travels,
good at general knowledge, information gathering/processing,

confused at decision making;

moon lord 2nd negating to first, negating family-finances;

moon-rahu rise-fall in life, prayers for ancestors,
observe fast No-moon dark evenings;
observe death anniversaries religiously;
wear brown hessonite over pendant;

asc lord mer retro aries 12th tending to foreign lands,
aptitude for writings, better at written communications;


mer retro towards pisces, emotional and confused;
wear green emerald over pendant touching heart;


sun-venus own taurus 12th, artistic aptitudes, international cuisine,
aptitude for hotel management, banking, dentistry, etc

venus combust, needing zinc supplements,
wear 0.25 carat diamond over platinum pendant touching heart;

sun-sat opp 6/12 houses, impacting health-employment;
veus-sat opp craving for affection, but difficult to manifest,
mutual health issues in relationship/marriage;

sat-mars scorpio 6th, stress-struggle in health-employment,
secretive, suspicious, sentimental, sarcastic, passionate;
research-occult and forensic-metallurgical-mechanical aptitudes;

retrograde mars negating and delaying employment;
mars 6th accident prone and coping with opponents;
intestinal-urological inflammations;

retrograde malefic mars more malefic and intensive;
prayers to Mother Goddess tues evenings,
offer red flowers at the alter at home,
and observe fast;

sag-jup 7th inimical-malefic for gemini asc,
stress in marriage-vocation;
ketu separative SNode inimical sag,
prone to detachment in relationship,
pain-injury-surgery abdominals-thighs etc;

jup lord 7th over 8th debilated cap,
health issues for spouse probably;

retro jup towards own sag 7th,
growth riches through advisory roles,

but under stress-delays;
jup now transit own sag 7th for marriage-vocation
under stress-delays;


wear yellow sapphire over pendant for debilated jup;
moon lord of elevation for jup over gemini asc,
debilation cancelled, gradually improvement in health;
jup elevated aspect cancer 2nd
protective of family-finances-speech/singing etc;


Sat-ketu separative Node 1.5yr transit jup-cap 8th,
chronic pain-injury-surgery liver-knees-urological etc to care;
jup lord 7th for husband-spouse;


prayers to Christ, offer red flowers thurs mornings;


do promptly ack, share salient pointwise feedbacks,


wishing well, kshantaram
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Seems you have not tried to pick anything Positive from the reading,
did not share such feedbacks in terms of talents, traits, aspirations etc.
even after persuasion, ignoring the reading effort, copy paste and ask one query ignoring the rest.

Every chart is generally a mixed bag to cope with,
pain-injury, depression, stress-struggle, success amidst adversity, etc

Retro planets generally review and delay things/results;
benefics become more benefic, malefics become more intensive.
remedies have been suggested too.

wishing you well, share feedbacks,
mere copypaste and brief query does not help discuss anything
not caring to share how true-untrue are the planetary outcomes;

obsessed with the bad, not ready to look and own the good,
Appreciate your pathos!


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ps : thank jac for appreciating this post earlier!
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Re: 7 planets retrograde

In response to your post mentioning mom as martyr, I had one of those. Nasty.
You may want to research online regarding an asteroid/fixed star Black Moon Lilith, then got to astro.com Extended Chart Selection and find her.

You're getting your feet wet!

All these ostensibly problematic elements afford real insight, if you have the tenacity to keep digging. It will fascinate you.

Have fun!
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Yes I see what you guys mean! It can become obsessive/scary reading how true all of these things are and the fact that in order to believe the good you have to believe the bad as well. Iíve been doing a lot of research and it seems that instead of considering certain placements as bad or good itís really all about the decisions we make when faced with the outcome of these placements
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Re: 7 planets retrograde

What is a horoscope, really?

It is based solely on the time and place of birth, nothing more.

So what is a horoscope at bottom?

It's a map of the sky as seen from a particular (and unique) point of view in spacetime.

It's a map of the sky and nothing more. Really, it has nothing to do with you at all, except for the coincidence of being born in that moment of spacetime.

7 planets Rx is rare and a very powerful influence for high subjectivity, a powerful introversion. People, according to Jung (Psychological Types), belong to one of two psychological types: the Extravert and the Introvert. Yours is an extreme of introversion. If you take the Myers-Briggs, you will get a high value for "N".

Externally, rx planets tend to cause all sorts of delays, incompletion, reversals, losses, etc. What is expected (of the planets) is only partially realized, or is lost once gained. These failures cause one to turn inward, seeking answers.


They do not necessarily deny success, but success, if it comes, will be followed by difficulty.

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Also, a horoscope is cast for a tiny new-born baby. It isn't a chart for an adult. Consequently, what a natal chart shows is potential.
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Itís extremely hard for me to find anything positive from that. Iím sorry maybe itís my introversion or whatever.
In addition to 7 planets retrograde, I have 3 planets in my 12th house, one of those being the sun....
So try as I might, success is the one thing that motivates all of us to get up & perform in the morning, so to be reassured that at 35 years old, after having to fight & struggle for the 1st half of my life, that I have to do it again, is not very uplifting.
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Yes I see what you guys mean! It can become obsessive/scary reading how true all of these things are and the fact that in order to believe the good you have to believe the bad as well. I’ve been doing a lot of research and it seems that instead of considering certain placements as bad or good it’s really all about the decisions we make when faced with the outcome of these placements

Appreciate your Words of wisdom!

Having sought a reading here, how has the reading helped in thinking of your decisions ahead,
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Well I appreciate the reading that has solutions on ways to counter the malefic placements. Otherwise, they hit home pretty closely. Pretty much on point. Iíve always known that Iím different & have struggled with addictions to drugs & other things. Iíve always been a different kind of addict if that makes sense. I donít steal lie or cheat. Well Iím a recovering addict. I donít think that defines me though because itís something I just felt I needed to experiment with them for about a year. Otherwise, I was a nurse but I lost my nursing license. Since then Iíve decided to get my paralegal but in the mean time itís been a struggle. I attract the scum of the earth in terms of men. My father left when I was a child and my mother hates me. I have no family, I have 2 kids, one is a blessing and the other I think hates me too. Itís just us out here. Itís pretty lonely.
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I have read that having 6 retrograde planets, a very rare occurrence, is the mark of a general. It is found that a lot of generals have such a chart. And since you have 7, you should probably be sitting on a committee trying to impeach Trump, or something.

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Staci, what kind of post would you find to be helpful?
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I feel like I should be as well. However, i attract some terrible people on top of my decision making skills are not the best. So yea sometimes I look around and Iím like, this isnít right Iím not supposed to be here right now Iím supposed to be on TV with them. Lol.
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