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When ASCENDANT PLANETARY RULER is in AVERSION aka DYSJUNCT aka DISJUNCT





DYSJUNCT is a traditional term = not in aspect
for example
ADJACENT SIGNS are in AVERSION
as are SIGNS that are 150 distant from one another

one possible example relative to ascendant sign is:



If Venus is Ascendant ruler and in AVERSION aka DYSJUNCT aks DISJUNCT

then
the native MAY neglect their personal appearance


HOWEVER
generalisation is fun
but unreliable

and so
keep in mind also
that traditionally
VENUS rules TAURUS and LIBRA
and
BOTH Taurus AND Libra
are Exaltation hosts

i.e.
TAURUS is the Exaltation of MOON
and
LIBRA is the Exaltation of SATURN
and so
IF
Venus were DYSJUNCT a Libra or a Taurus ASCENDANT
then
Exaltation rulers influence on appearance
is greater than it would be
than if Venus WERE in aspect to the ascendant
thus the native would not necessarily neglect their appearance
i.e.

the entire chart requires delineation


EXAMPLE OF RULER OF THE ASCENDANT IN ASPECT WITH ASCENDANT





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Re: When ASCENDANT PLANETARY RULER is in AVERSION aka DYSJUNCT aka DISJUNCT

Hmm, was wondering about this since it is not really true.
I have ac ruler disjunct ac and poor fellow is also the exaltation ruler (Mercury), but i am very much into how i present myself (and how i look, everything has to be perfect).
The fact that there is no control over ac issues, as the ruler cannot assist makes me think more among the lines that i am more prone to unforseen events (like illnesses or accidents).
If you have more info on this, please share.
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Re: When ASCENDANT PLANETARY RULER is in AVERSION aka DYSJUNCT aka DISJUNCT

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Hmm, was wondering about this since it is not really true.
I have ac ruler disjunct ac and poor fellow is also the exaltation ruler (Mercury),
but i am very much into how i present myself
(and how i look, everything has to be perfect).
Thank you for sharing that Heidy
if you use ASTROSEEK free traditional chart calculator
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology
for calculating your chart
and then if you add your chart to your comment
we can continue to discuss - this is very interesting
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The fact that there is no control over ac issues,
as the ruler cannot assist
makes me think more among the lines that i am more prone to unforseen events
(like illnesses or accidents).
If you have more info on this, please share.
viewing a traditional chart to check influences from bound rulers
could throw more light on these issues
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Term ruler is Venus and Venus sextiles Ac (within minutes).
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Re: When ASCENDANT PLANETARY RULER is in AVERSION aka DYSJUNCT aka DISJUNCT

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Term ruler is Venus and Venus sextiles Ac (within minutes).
would be useful to view chart
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