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Cool Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

I have already tried to have a normal job, about 15 times, and I can never find a fit. I always felt I needed to have job that made me happy and fulfilled. Something with a purpose. But I'm having trouble finding out what that is.
Could someone please give me some insight into any natural inclinations I might have, career wise, based on my chart? I just want to do what I was meant to do.


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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

Jessie, you look like one very intense Scorpio to me! I don't know that your vocation in life will make you happy-happy, because I think you need a life lived close to the bone. This need for a life lived with intensity and courage is reinforced by your moon in Aries. Yes, you can play it safe, but then you can look forward to a life of "quiet desperation."

If you've got a college degree, have you thought of the Peace Corps or AmeriCorps VISTA? https://www.nationalservice.gov/prog...mericorpsvista

If you don't have a degree, I would encourage you to get one. There are lower-cost options, like doing a lot of courses on-line.
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

p.s. I think the lucky ones wake up one day and realize that they have a burning urge to be a doctor or an architect or something. A lot of us have the "good enough" job, because our life focus lies somewhere else.

You appear to have some artistic talent. Music? Art?
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

Hello waybread.



Thank you so much for reading my post. I believe you may be on to something about me being a true scorpio and need to have a career that is to the bone. lol. I wouldn't be able to compensate for something that seemed to suck the soul out of me. As much as I like the idea of the Peace Corps, it is unfortunately not a long term solution. As for music I do play it. I post some of my stuff on soundcloud. But never have I dedicated myself to the craft. It's been love/hate relationship. Sometimes, I have fantasies of being a surfer. And and at others times, president. But that's about it. lol.
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

Natrive,

A question: can you tell me if one of the challenges you have is that you get bored quite easily in your jobs, like feel like you are not interested in the job you are in due to it being monotonous, same old drag, and that after a short time itself? You Venus (ruler of the MC) is dignified, so you will have a good career life. And, given that Venus, yes, you want to go into creativity somehow. Even if it is linked to tech. Like web designing.

By the way, your Asc. is so borderline. Can you tell me if you are rather narrow structured and perhaps bony? Or, are you big boned possibly and perhaps a broad forehead and/or nose?
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

natrive, the wisdom from my refrigerator magnet says, "Life is not about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." So long as you are waiting for the universe to whisper in your ear what is your calling in life, or hoping an astrologer will read it transparently off your chart, you probably won't find it.

I mean, what if I said your vocation in life is to be a plumber? That would be totally appropriate to your Scorpio sun-Pluto-Mars; and plumbers make really good money. Or a paramedic? (I might have said doctor, but it's a bit late, though not impossible, if you haven't followed the required curriculum as an undergrad.)

I can't tell you what you "should" do with your life because you need to summon up what you have within you. I can tell you what I think you'd be good at.

Have you thought of enlisting in the military?

A lot of what it takes to have a job you'd be good at means sticking to it, even the parts you hate initially, and then setting some short- or medium-term goals for your life.
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

Hello Aquarius,

You would be correct in your conjectures. I do get bored pretty easily and find myself having to entertain myself. Although this may just be due to not working jobs which require much personal interest or passion. Although I can find myself getting lost in the perfectionism of my job.

I am quite bony. Good guess. Is there some sort of significance of have a 29 degree ascendant?
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waybread, you are wise beyond your years. That magnet must have been placed their years ago by a very intelligent person. I suppose you have gotten to the crux of my issue, and very quickly I might add. I'ts not so much with not having a career I can identify with that makes me suffer. It's more along the terms of an existential crisis. I feel like there's something inside me that needs to get out. But I have releases things from my inner self and never has it led me to any more clarity. I'm not sure how far I have to dig to know who I am. I am beginning to wonder if self-awareness is even meant for me or is necessary for me to do what it is I'm supposed to do. Perhaps I was just meant to lead an ordinary life, as disappointing as that sounds. I just may not be very special.


But plumbing?


Have considered the military but I don't believe in killing unless it is to kill something that needs to be killed.

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You're freaking funny.


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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

thanks, natrive. Actually, my years are many, so my wisdom still needs to catch up.

Yeah, that's my one profound refrigerator magnet. The others have to do with cooking with wine, or they are pictures of national parks.

Possibly your quest to find yourself will come from something other than a career, like becoming a long-haul world-traveler, or hiking the Appalachian trail solo.

But what if your "self" were a moving target? Who you are today won't be the "you" of 10 years from now.

I still don't know if you have a college degree, but if you do, or think you should, you might consider that skilled trades are in high demand just now, and a lot of them pay well.

I recall a cousin of mine, university graduate, who became a highly placed corporate executive. I think there was just a bit too much pressure on his sons to follow a similar life path. But one who rebelled, did so spectacularly. He became a skilled auto mechanic. He now works for a major foreign automobile dealership service department, which pays him a really good salary with really good benefits.

So it might be good to think outside the box.

I think that if you enlist in the military, you can choose what kind of path you want. Hey, you might be happy on a submarine, or as a medic who saves lives, not destroys them.

Your sun-Mars-Pluto is in the 11th house of friendship, as well as your hopes and wishes for the future. You might actually prefer to work for a large organization where your co-workers are also your friends.

I thought you would turn up your nose at plumbing. But actually, Scorpio and Pluto like to "plumb" the depths of human existence. They are not afraid of situations that make other signs really squeamish. Mars rules metal objects.

The thing of a career, also, is that you don't have to do it for life. Hopefully this takes some of the pressure off of finding the one true vocation in life. Just do a committed career for some of your life. Just more persistently than you've done so far.
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

Hi,

I am trying to gauge if your Asc. could possible fall in Cap instead of Sag. Would you say you are fairly serious-minded? Any maladies during childhood? Are you quite interested in the overseas, foreign languages, foreign travel?

Would you say that 2016 & 2017 more so were especially tough years for you in some way? I don't mean like you wanting to change jobs due to boredom, but, tough in ways that perhaps you were even mentally depressed for longer periods and felt a sense of gloom and heaviness? Perhaps problems healthwise, although you are wonderfully young.

Luckily, even if your Asc. is different, your MC and IC axis will remain where it is, sign wise. The problem with boredom will remain most likely for many years per your natal chart, so you have to learn to curb it yourself and practise feeling satisfied. Otherwise, you could end up spoiling your career if you, say, job hopped a lot. Right now, it is fine because you are young, so still testing the waters kind of, but just as a word of caution, since you are young, it is easier for you to sort of mentally train your own self to practise sticking to something in order to grow in it. More quality than quantity kind of thing.
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Bread, you're proving your self to be quite the interesting dude/woman. I have a sinking feeling that the person I was 5 years ago is less intelligent than the person I am not. So you are correct about the moving target concept. I believe thinking out of the box is exactly what I need. I have been narrowing my options down as much as is possible when perhaps I should of expanding my perspective. I suppose I lack inspiration and vision. I would only wish to be the man I truely am without compromise. And get paid well enough for it. I don't want a job to steal my soul. Perhaps, I have something I can offer the world.
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

Aquarius, according to all the natal charts I have completed, my ascendant always lies in 29 degrees sag. That being said, I have north node, lilith, uranus, neptun and juno, all in the first house. So I suppose maybe that would affect my physical appearance. As for my personality, I am parodoxical. I am deadly serious sometimes to the detriment of common sense, and at other times I am downright childish. I've been depressed my entire life, I'm afraid.
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Aquarius, according to all the natal charts I have completed, my ascendant always lies in 29 degrees sag. That being said, I have north node, lilith, uranus, neptun and juno, all in the first house. So I suppose maybe that would affect my physical appearance. As for my personality, I am parodoxical. I am deadly serious sometimes to the detriment of common sense, and at other times I am downright childish. I've been depressed my entire life, I'm afraid.
I will go more by the answers you are supplying me with (bony, depressed...) than the 29* in all charts pulled because, obviously, if your birth time is amiss even a bit, your Asc. could be in Cap.

You forgot to answer one question in my previous post - about 2016 and 2017.
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Oh excuse me, I'm not the greatest at answering all questions.


The answer is no 2016 and 2017 were not paticularly more difficult thatn any other years.

Why do you ask?
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The answer is no 2016 and 2017 were not paticularly more difficult thatn any other years.

Why do you ask?
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That's interesting. How can you explain my chart which clearly states a sagitarrius then?
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That's interesting. How can you explain my chart which clearly states a sagitarrius then?
I already explained it in an earlier post. Your Asc is at the 29th degree. This means that if your birth time is off by just 5 mins, it moves into Capricorn.
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

My birth time isn't off. Unless my doctor wrote down the wrong time. Once again, what does my ascendant have to do with this topic?
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

natrive, A7000 will speak for her self, but a truism in astrology is the need to look at the entire chart to get a sense of the entire person. Just for example, someone might have talent so bright you'd need sunglasses just to look at it, but other chart placements suggest that this is a shy person who would hate always being the focus of attention in a public arena, but would be happiest working behind the scenes.

I tend to think your ToB is accurate because 9:09 is down to the minute, not rounded to 9:10 or 9:00, which used to be a common practice on birth certificates.

My son has a late degree of Sagittarius rising, but Sagittarius suits him to a T. No way would I wonder if this were a Capricorn rising: they're very different personalities.

In scrolling through my list of new posts on my thread subscriptions this morning, it hit me that you are asking why you can't seem to live a "normal life." I think the foundational reason is because you are one heck of an intense Scorpio/Plutonian kind of person. You need something far more intense and edgy than a "normal life" would entail, whatever "normal life" would mean. I just can't see you as a happy office worker in a "cube farm," 9-5, with the freeway commute, mortgage and a bland suburban lifestyle.

Unless you put those skills to work at something like insurance fraud investigation or criminal law; and then joined a caving (spelunking) club (11th house) where you went caving (Pluto=underworld) on weekends. With your 4th house moon, maybe you'd do well at a home renovation business, but this usually requires some construction/carpentry skills.

Within reason (and respecting your privacy) when do you feel most alive?? What are you doing then? (I mean, I'm not asking about your sex life, more about some kind of hobby, extra-curricular activity, subject that really held your interest in school, or a particular aspect of one of those 15 jobs.) This would help to see how your chart is playing out in your life, and hopefully offer something to build upon.
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Re: Can't live a normal life. Please, I need career advice.

I'm afraid I really can't point out specific things in your chart career-wise since I'm still a beginner, but I do think your Neptune and Uranus in the 1st house shows some sort of identity crisis. If you're like me (my Neptune and Uranus are also in the 1st house), you probably can be quite the eccentric, with a creative soul that's never really satisfied.

Waybread and A7000 are onto something here. I also do see a strong Plutonian influence on your chart. The military suggestion makes sense to me -- with your Mars in 11th under Scorpio, you may enjoy some sort of law enforcement or detective work with a big group / community. But there also seems to be a strong pattern of creativity (Libra conjunct MC, Mercury in 12th). Though you might also find comfort at home (Moon in 4th), you have a need to broaden your horizons and maybe see the world (Jupiter in the 8th and almost on the 9th cusp), and this might be causing some sort of internal conflict within you. Perhaps, if my reading is correct, it will be easier to decide on a career path once you've resolved this?

That said, if it's difficult to figure out the answer to waybread's last question (I only figured my own answer to that recently, and it's been a long and tedious process getting there thanks to my Neptune in 1st lol), I suggest doing this: keep a journal. Your Mercury in the 12th also denotes some sort of difficulties expressing yourself, perhaps due to some fears during childhood. However, it also denotes a natural ability to be in touch with the collective unconscious. You're probably quite perceptive. With your 6th house in Gemini and MC in Libra, you might be talented in writing.

If you do decide to keep a journal, it might help you figure out when you're at your happiest, or when you feel the most passionate. Since those with a Mercury in 12th usually have a strong sense of intuition, automatic writing or something of the sort might help you be more in touch with your innermost desires. I do hope I can help you some more with this, and I'm sorry if there are any inaccuracies.
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I'm truely beginning to adore this thread as everyone on here gives invaluable advice and really seems to know their stuff. I feel we are all becoming like friends already. I will let you in on a little secret. I had a childhoood dream of becoming a big wave surfer. It was the one past time that appealed to me, but as I have grown I have developed a somewhat strange fantasy, some sort of lust for power. Not just for the sake of my own but for the sake of protecting others. As my sepulcher childhood fades and my innocence dissipates into thin air. I have developed this deep sense of desire to seek power. I have dabbled in the occult and am interested in joining secret societies. I have an urge to be somewhat of a benevolent protector of society. Sounds weird. But sometimes I have this vision of me sitting on a throne of power, behind a veil of secrecy, where I can use my strengths to combat wickedness that plagues our planet.

And on the other hand, I just want to get high and surf waves and get married.


I may just be a delusunional day dreamer. lost. But I like to see myself as someone who can change people's lives, maybe even save lives.
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I may have just watched too many movies.
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That brings me to another important off-topic. Can anyone analyze my life love and tell me what kind of love life my chart is inclinded too. Early happy marriage, or a barrage of love affairs, or maybe, just maybe multiple girlfriends. I have no idea. My love life is a mess.
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I may just be a delusunional day dreamer. lost. But I like to see myself as someone who can change people's lives, maybe even save lives.
I truly believe you can. Your 11th house stellium plus Pluto in 11 house actually shows a side that may be interested in secret/occult societies, and with the 6th house in Gemini, you may be good at keeping secrets or you might find yourself in a position where people trust you with their secrets.

Honestly, I'm not sure what exact career would suit you at this point, but what I do see is that you'd do well in career that allows you to influence people. I admire how you wish to change people's lives, and I don't think you're delusional at all.

If you find that the thought of being a big wave surfer still takes your breath away, that you really want that career in your life, then I'd say go for it. But if you really think an influential/powerful career might suit you more, perhaps you can let surfing function as some sort of metaphor or guide. What is it about surfing that made you feel happy? How can you do/channel that in an influential/powerful career?

I'm honoured to know about this secret of yours, and I really wish you luck on this! It may seem strange, but I relate so much with you (perhaps because I also have a busy 11th house, strong Venusian influences along with Neptune and Uranus in the 1st lol). It's nice to find similar souls over here, especially since I'm new.
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