Cap. Saturn, Uranus, Neptune Generation

VirGem89

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<i>Very interesting. I do see what you're saying. Well, I am moving here in a few days. Seems like an opportune time to make some kind of adjustment to the homelife. I have to say in some ways, this seems like a limiting aspect to life...hard to see what could really come from such a small tweek. But, I suppose that would be life...acting and seeing what those energies manifest. Right now, it's hard to imagine what could possibly come from it. Thank you for the suggestions <img src="http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg" /> Im definitely gonna apply them. </i></p></p>
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<p><p>Please report back. So far everything you say backs astrology. </p></p>
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<p><p>You have beautifully described what a T Square feels like, how it manifests. The missing leg just doesn't seem that important, it seems like a &quot;limiting aspect of life.&quot;</p></p>
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<p><p>Other ways to symbolize Pisces 4th House. Hang photos or art that show water, fish, sea animals, blues and aquas. Use ocean colors and motifs. Clouds and sky are great too. Soften borders and boundaries in your room, house, or garden. Use music and sound and aroma to create atmospheres. Research into an interesting ancestor, with inner and outer means. Rocks, crystals, drift wood, music, poetry, playing an instrument...
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<p><p>I definitely will let you know what happens. It's funny you mention water (makes sense, of course with Pisces) because I just had a beach music festival I attended on the gulf and the whole weekend, I kept saying how much more at peace I felt and I kept getting very strong, familiar feelings of the secure times in my life as a kid. I couldn't understand why. This makes me feel like I felt that for a reason then...like there should be something of that element in my home. And the researching into ancestors, too...because I just had my uncle give me his code for an ancestor website because I know so little about my mom's side of the family. Again, maybe I'm getting this urge for a reason.</p></p>
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<p>Oh and forgot to mention the fact I've been having a lot of water dreams, as well. Last night I just had a dream about standing on a bridge overlooking a rushing current of water, and a bunch of fawns were somehow swimming in it. I motioned one to come to me and it somehow managed to jump out of the current and I was petting it, hugging it, as if it were a dog. It was an odd dream for sure. Not sure if it had significance or relevance to anything, but it was odd, regardless haha.</p>
 
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RosieOne

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Reflections on the Age of Aquarius:

The Uranus/Pluto conjunction in Virgo was clearly the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius for me! First time I heard about the Age of Aquarius I was age 12 and this broadway musical happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhbxI5eVnM4

Being an Aquarius myself, with a Taurus Rising (that I didn't know about yet) I had a singing voice that could actually pull off that song too! I suddenly wanted to learn astrology.

Soon enough, I figured out that when the Moon is in the 7th House, happens to us all everyday. And Jupiter "aligning" with Mars, as in Trining or Conjuncting (?), happens often.

Anyone here have your Moon in the 7th House and Jupiter/Mars in happy aspect?

You are the harbinger of the Age of Aquarius. You are, you are!

Which also means the end of the Piscean Age.

So religion is out and whatever floats your boat in IN.

Unfortunately English offers us words that are steeped in negative Pisean energy - like "God". Even words like Light and Truth have been fouled by religious dogma.

The Age of Aquarius prefers the science definition of words.

I assert, but don't care if something else works for you, that non-dualism, or Monism may well be the religion of the Age of Aquarius- The Cosmos and the Creation are One, they are the same thing. Creator/Creaton/All One.

Astrology is ruled by Aquarius, and the first thing any decent Aquarius awakened astrologer will tell you, is that astrology makes a really bad religion. It is elitest and authoritarian. The client is too passive and the astrologer is too opinionated - bad religion.

But it works great as therapy and life coaching. I don't experience astrology working well for fortune telling, either.

And atheism works fine in the Age of Aquairus too - as long as you can stand humble in the face of something bigger than your puny little ego structure.

Warning: Anyone who enacts the negative Leo archetype at the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius may well be in trouble - right? Egotism and greed look pretty stupid and boring and Aquarius energy bores easily and the same old story, over and over....

Radical equality, non- authoritarian, humanitarian - all Aquarius keywords. High integrity, commitment to Truth. Not afraid to turn on the LIGHTS. Pro- Uranus, happy Uranus type energy. Denial busters. Artists, scientists, techies, team facilitators, and shamans.

Telepathy anyone?

Aquarius teaches that folks should stop using sex energy to harm beings because sex is good. Enthusiastic consent between people is as good and healthy as the people involved and nobodiy's business. Safe sex, and birth control and sex education that actually really talks about sex - Aquarius is radical.

But also conservative about the bio-sphere.

In the Age of Aquairus, psychic gifts are no big deal. They don't make you a good or bad person, anymore than my grand singing voice has made me "good" or "bad." Mis-use of psychic powers, mis-use of charisma, mis-use of groupies, larceny, mis-use of POWER and powers - expect to be EXPOSED.

Humble up quickly. I mean you-all have Saturn on your Pluto and Pluto on your Saturns, with Jupiter returning conjunct Chiron and that Uranus/Neptune conjunction... sooo getting manic or grandious is a quick ticket to getting humbled with these transits.

As for your desire to party or indulge - at least ask for protection. And take the time to explore the concept of fully LUCID. Not numb, rather awake and heart awakened (even if it hurts at first).

Because the bad guys have no hearts or have severely damaged hearts, thus they can not have all their chakras wake up.

Obviously the Dawn of the Age of Aquarius is really getting going now - astrological speaking, the First Square in Cardinal signs - Capricorn and Aries!!!

What are your insights into the Age of Aquarius?
 
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oriel

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Anyone here have your Moon in the 7th House and Jupiter/Mars in happy aspect?

yes moon in 7th, mars and jupiter are in sextile,but both my moon and mars are in 7th house but are not aspecting each other is it good or bad?
What are your insights into the Age of Aquarius?

I've been reading about it for years and for me it's about change,like breaking down of old systems that no longer works anymore and yes,enlightenment.Since aquarius holds a pitcher of water,for me it's like the water pouring, is like knowledge or wisdom,that will bring light.I dunno but maybe that's just me.:whistling: and since it's an air sign, a thinking sign,expect more of advance technology and innovation and of course knowledge pouring in..Ah..but that's just my perception :biggrin:
 

RosieOne

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You think everyone is tired of 2000 years of Pisces? Well, we are.

But 2000 years of Aquarius is bound to be very very annoying. Especially towards the end when all the negative Aquarian traits abound. Fixed Air. Oh blech.

Capricorn will seem so sensible around the year 4000.

Meanwhile, back here, at the Dawn of the Age of Aquarius, we can expect an increase in the positive Aquarian/Uranian breakthroughs. Paradigm shifting, and consciousness raising are how Aquarius/Uranus energy transform things. Aquarius proves the power of truth. Takes endless lies to keep the truth down. What if the truth got out? What if the truth got out?

Power to the people, and all other earth beings. We are all Aquariums, somewhere in our charts. We all have Uranianian portals in our scopes.

Now again, for me, the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius literally first happened at the time of the Uranus/Pluto in Virgo conjunction, because that was the very frist time I ever heard of the concept of the Age of Aquairus, via the song. Not just me, but the whole culture woke up to the idea of the Age of Aquarius, and suddenly astrology had a huge rebirth. There were no books about astrology available to me as a child. No internet yet.

I'm asserting that the Age of Aquarius began when the idea of the Age of Aquarius dawned on mass culture at the Uranus/Pluto conjunction, because that is how Aquarius works - right? New dawn via new ideas.

The WWW - which looks like the symbol for Aquarius - is considered one of the first big shifts from the Pisean Age into Aquarius. Getting personal computers and the internet to the people, as distinct from having it be controlled by Mr. Manly Military Corporation, was a group project of many annonymous techies, Aquarium heros.

Aquarius is also the sign of the whistle blower. Truth has power. Truth can change things quickly.

It makes sense that the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius is a Pluto/Uranus thang - and an outer planet in the last signs of the zodiac thang (until recently when Uranus entered Aries).

Basically, for astrologers, the Moon in the 7th House with positive Jupiter/Mars connections, has nothing to do with the big changes of this planet. But for me they mark someone with special Age of Aquairus talents, Moon Magic, because this aspect showed up at the same moment in the same song as the Age of Aquarius first showed up, culturally speaking.

Specifcally, people with Moon in the 7th are super in-tune with others, empaths. And they have charisma and sex appeal - happy Jupiter/Mars.
 
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RosieOne

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The dualistic/mundane way of looking at the Uranus/Pluto Square in the sky, is that youthful electric brave warrior energy ala Uranus in Aries is revolting against Old (Capricorn) Mafia Dons (Pluto), and their secret government(s). And that is a good interpretation because we live in a dualistic reality.

But Union with the Infinity One, not two, is also possible at any moment of NOW. The Truth is non-dualistic. It keeps popping up no matter how liars try to keep it buried. Truth zaps like lightening! Uranus zippy zip zip.

Yet actually Pluto is a good guy too, and the Man has lots of Uranus tricks up his sleeve. New inventions of war and such.

But this whole huge Uranus/Pluto dance started as a conjunction, a unified expression in the Sixties.

Uranus and Pluto are both uncontrollable forces for humans. They are big and we are small.

Both Pluto and Uranus are needed to blow our minds and bring in the Age of Aquarius AND we need Neptune in Pisces too. The outer planets are astrological names for the God-head. Creator/Sustainer/Destroyer - Uranus/Neptune/Pluto.
 
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RosieOne

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Hi VirGen89,

How synchronistic! Your moving and all that. And water dreams...

Hi Quixotic,

Love the feel of your scope. One cosmic Square, one beautiful Trine, a Sextile, and one Saturn in Aquarius opposition with a super public Chiron in Leo in the late 10th loose conjunct your 11th.

Capricorn Sun, Sage Moon here to live a Libra Rising Tribe sort of life, dedicated to harmony, justice, community and beauty.

With North Node, Sun, Uranus and Neptune conjunct your IC in Capricorn, you have South Node Conjunct your Midheaven in Cancer. So you were a famous Cancerian leader in a past life. You might have been the Queen, or a great Knight, depending on your gender.

This life you bring in those skills and talents and again being a known leader is easily going to manifest.

BUT to pull off your Soul's Desires you must wake up the whole AXIS, be both fully positive Cancer and Capricorn, both ma and pa. Your Midheaven is Capricorn's place, but for you Cancer lives there. And the IC is Cancer's realm, but in your scope Capricorn is there. This life you must delve deep into the 4th House/IC.

So read all the following Elizabeth Spring descriptions and do them all, in Neptunian and Uranian ways. Embody both Capricorn and Cancer. Sounds hard but don't worry, it is actually your personality to do this work, your Sun naturally shines in the direction you wish to go.

NN in Cap: http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/2008/02/north-node-capricorn.html

NN in Cancer: http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/2008/01/north-node-cancer.html

NN in 4th: http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/2008/08/south-node-tenth-house-north-node.html
 

oriel

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and you just said age of aquarius is a whistle blower,you just reminded me of wiki leaks and those people like the former butler of pope benedict XVI who leaked files regarding the church's corruption and edward snowden the NSA whistleblower.:biggrin:
 

soratothamax

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The important thing to understand when going through these powerful Pluto transits is that you are not alone one bit. Your whole generation is going through them together.

The key therefore is within the Pluto in Scorpio generation itself. Anytime Pluto shows up in a Fixed sign (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio. or Aquarius) it is a revolutionary generation. This is because Pluto means BOOM, and Fixed means STRUCTURES.

However, the Pluto in Scorpio generation is not going to revolutionize anything in the same way the Pluto in Leo generation did when we were young. The Pluto in Leo generation wore loud wild clothes, and did lots of street theater. The Pluto in Scorpio generation wear hoodies and meet in secret via modern technology. Leo energy is not subtle, Scorpio energy is very secret, subtle and behind the scenes, and then POW. Like an eagle, or a scorpian...

Sounds spot on. Many forces are lying underneath the surface. i'm feeling pluto, maybe because my sun is in taurus with opposition moon. Moon conjuncts pluto in the 12th...
 
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RosieOne

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However, the Pluto in Scorpio generation is not going to revolutionize anything in the same way the Pluto in Leo generation did when we were young. The Pluto in Leo generation wore loud wild clothes, and did lots of street theater. The Pluto in Scorpio generation wear hoodies and meet in secret via modern technology. Leo energy is not subtle, Scorpio energy is very secret, subtle and behind the scenes, and then POW. Like an eagle, or a scorpian...

There is a Square between the Pluto in Leo Generation and the Pluto in Scorpio Generation. Very different FIXED ways of expressing generational power and vision. Power struggles and ego clashes - though Scorpio/Leo friendships challenge and appreciate each other too. All the FIXED signs get along great, if you enjoy haggling and don't run from healthy conflict, which Fixed signs do (haggling), and don't (run).

And, of course, the Big Goal is the same for everyone, Pluto in Cancer, Pluto in Leo, Pluto Virgo, Pluto in Libra, Pluto in Scorpio, Pluto in Sage, Pluto in Capricorn "generations" - all alive on the planet right now. We are all here to Dawn the Age of Aquarius.

Thus for career planning, anything Aquarius is a good direction to follow. And because you are Pluto in Scorpio generation folk, anything Taurus in nature is going to empower you.

Find your Taurus and Aquarius Houses and reflect on that.
 

RosieOne

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and you just said age of aquarius is a whistle blower,you just reminded me of wiki leaks and those people like the former butler of pope benedict XVI who leaked files regarding the church's corruption and edward snowden the NSA whistleblower.:biggrin:

What if everyone decided to whistle blow something?

Whistle blowing happens when the appropriate channel to report something unethical or illegal to, IS the source of the problem.

Aquairus is the denial buster of the zodiac and Uranus is the great Awakener.
 
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Quixotic

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Hi VirGen89,

How synchronistic! Your moving and all that. And water dreams...

Hi Quixotic,

Love the feel of your scope. One cosmic Square, one beautiful Trine, a Sextile, and one Saturn in Aquarius opposition with a super public Chiron in Leo in the late 10th loose conjunct your 11th.

Capricorn Sun, Sage Moon here to live a Libra Rising Tribe sort of life, dedicated to harmony, justice, community and beauty.

With North Node, Sun, Uranus and Neptune conjunct your IC in Capricorn, you have South Node Conjunct your Midheaven in Cancer. So you were a famous Cancerian leader in a past life. You might have been the Queen, or a great Knight, depending on your gender.

This life you bring in those skills and talents and again being a known leader is easily going to manifest.

BUT to pull off your Soul's Desires you must wake up the whole AXIS, be both fully positive Cancer and Capricorn, both ma and pa. Your Midheaven is Capricorn's place, but for you Cancer lives there. And the IC is Cancer's realm, but in your scope Capricorn is there. This life you must delve deep into the 4th House/IC.

So read all the following Elizabeth Spring descriptions and do them all, in Neptunian and Uranian ways. Embody both Capricorn and Cancer. Sounds hard but don't worry, it is actually your personality to do this work, your Sun naturally shines in the direction you wish to go.

NN in Cap: http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/2008/02/north-node-capricorn.html

NN in Cancer: http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/2008/01/north-node-cancer.html

NN in 4th: http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/2008/08/south-node-tenth-house-north-node.html

Interesting that you pointed out my chiron... I feel like its a huge part of my chart. I'd be curious to know what your interpretation of its position would be.

I connect so much more with sagittarius parts, that its so hard to connect with my unique Capricorn Sun. Guess thats why I feel like I don't connect with the typical interps of cap. And cosmic square? I'm curious about this as well.

Thank you for all your information! I love picking other astrologers brains on my own chart, seeing that I find it confusing as hell.
 

RosieOne

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Ankhesenamun,

Can you repost your scope so we don't have to search back through this thread for it?

Your father should be in jail. You were born in a torture chamber.

But you have escaped, which is really really good. Pluto going over your Capricorn stellium has liberated you alrerady so much and Pluto is headed for your Midheaven. This will be a good thing, transformational, you watch.

You may need to escape again. Or your husband may prove himself a better man and win you.

One big difference between your Dad and your hubby, is that you call the cops on your hubby.

You ARE more empowered in your marriage than you ever have been before. Living backwards. It is getting easier. Still hard but getting better and better.

Your child really really wanted to incarnate. Yes, I imagine it is the same soul, despite the different fathers and pregnancies. And having this child is the very best thing that ever happened to you.

Because you have this double Fixed T Square - the missing leg is 5h House Leo! Having a child -though it may feel foreign, and a side track from your life and dreams, a lost of youth and romance etc. because missing legs of T Squares feel like that - having this child is hugely liberating for you.

Mama Lion!!!!! Activate Mama Leo and the whole FIXED/stubborn potential of your scope activates. This includes your Aquarium Sun! No one will ever hit that child.

Now basically, you are really mad and really sad. I am really mad and sad about your childhood too (and my own). What is there NOT to be sad and mad about? Not just us either - way too many readers here are rightfully deeply sad and mad. Many more are sad and mad for our sakes too.

But your child, or children, will not be abused.

We are talking FIXED T squares. Soon as you pour love and heart (LEO) into your 5th House (inner and outer child and fun and self expression), you access the FIXED super power. Nobody messes with Mama Leo. No one.

If you are religious/spiritual, drop the Father God, and start calling on the Divine Mama for guidance and healing. Cry everyday and get way physical once a day. Arobics, run with the baby stroller, dance like a maniac for 1/2 hour or more, let your rage physically express everyday, whether you need to or not. Aries Rising!

Cry sooner. Cry with your child.

Play with your child, - color crayons, all colors, stories, pretend - and meet other women with children and make friends. Do NOT allow your husband to limit your friendships anymore than you allow him to hit your child or you.

As you Mother your child, you reMom yourself. This pops open that T Square and empowers you so so so so much.

The best revenge (the ONLY righteous revenge) is success on your own terms. You not only can do it, but you WILL. You already have come so far and it gets easier and easier, more you wake up.
 
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RosieOne

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Hi Quixotic,

The three most spiritual/celestial God(dess)-like signs are the three last signs - Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces. Many esoteric astrologers say that Capricorn is the highest spiritual archetype, because positive Capricorn energy leaves the planet concretely improved.

Aquarius is futuristic and Pisces is Union/communion. Your Cap. NN/Uranus/Neptune Sun etc conjunction on your IC is HUGE. Capricorn is the archetype of the incorruptible humble leader/boss. Capricorn is super TRUTHY. Bad Cappies are REALLY bad - bitter and mean and heartless like scrooge.

Your Sage Moon energy is way too happy and full of humor for you to ever be a bad Capricorn.

Beyond that your outer personality this life, Sun Capricorn is also Uranian/Aquarium and Neptune/Pie-in-the-sky-ease, Pisces! On the IC, with Cancer in there too.

And the mark of Chrion in Leo 11th opposite a Saturn Aquairus? Great astrologer mojo! Pardigm shifter, public person (11th House Leo). You SHINE because you help others shine out there on the public stage.

Your scope is soothing for me. healing energies running deep. Only one little Square and a lovely one. Jupiter connecting from the 12th to the 3rd. You can tap the universal unsconscious and communicate it through your heart/mind. O well.

That said, you know deep suffering. Pluto doesn't conjunct everyone's IC in life. I will never have this transit. But I experienced it going over my DES - BOOM! And I will live to experience Pluto conjunct Midheaven, or so I imagine. Maybe I will die then? Pop!

Got to say, that I once had a client with T. Pluto over her IC and she was head over heals in love with a 19 year old, and she was 45. She wanted to marry him. She was paying me to coach her on how to keep him forever.

So I gave her a free reading. :cool:

Can you look at Ankhesenamun's scope?
 
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RosieOne

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Capricorn= can be defined by structure, ambition, hard-working, perseverance, and it rules our bones.

Pluto= regeneration, break it down to rebuild it better, not something pleasant to get through.

Pluto on Capricorn. Some of us have Saturn there. Are our bodies getting some TLC too?

Bravo. You are speaking Astrolo-ease now. Astrology is a symbol language and you are speaking full sentences. Many people learn astrology using keywords. I didn't, but I find it a fun way to get things flowing.

Mind you, I have a friend who speaks Astrolo-ease beautifully! But being a good astrologer is about then translating Astrolo-ease back into your native language. My friend has no longing to be a good astrologer, she just loves to speak Astrolo-ease with me.

"O how Venus in Gemini is that?" she will say, looking at a pair of pants in a store.

"Square Pluto!" I will reply, noting the use of leather and chains.

Not surprised to hear that the Pluto in Scorpio generation are training up your bodies.

Capricorn is everything structural (the bones as you say) and creating good healthy routines ala small do-able goals, in order to be "fit" in body, emotions, mind and spirit is Capricorn for sure - part of the Earth (body) signs. Even Taurus energy, which can be a bit lazy getting started, is happiest when walking the back forty acres, checking those fences.

Using Keywords to look at Pluto being in Capricorn for the planet as a whole, choose a keyword from the Pluto List and apply it to things in the Capricorn keyword list.

Pluto = Regeneration, transformation, coercion, cooperation, rebirth, death, desire, obsession, cleansing, healing, elimination, generational changes

REGARDING

Capricorn = Grief, living in the past, past cultural laws, heavily conditioned by society, killjoy - curmudgeon, familial laws, judgment of self & others, using self-will to control emotions, depression, lonely, stoic, schemers, bouts of imploding emotions, domination, power-tripper, and making everything hard work - punishment, authoritarian, controlling, exploitive, calculating, materialistic and overly ambitious. Sexual repression due to conditioning... or control of emotion, rigid, feeling orphaned, defensive, isolation, being a hermit, easily shamed, self defeat – I am bad - futility – therefore I suffer. Walls or unyielding boundaries,overly structured, fear of chaos.

AND

Authority (self authority), fathering, responsibility, comfortable with social position, patient, not adverse to hard work, the elder, the sage,f air judge, comfortable with solitude, ambitious, mature, integrity – an integrated person, no pretense, in touch with our inner adult, healthy discipline, ancestral interest, tradition, nationalism, patriotism, politics, self-respect, goal oriented.
 

RosieOne

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The Pluto in Libra and Pluto in Scorpio Generations, particularly,are producing Pluto in Capricorn kids right now. These Pluto in Capricorn kids - your nieces and nephews, and/or your own kids, or friend's kids - have their Pluto conjunct your Uranus/Neptune conjunctions (with Saturn in there too for many here, opposite your Chiron in Cancer).

Their Chirons are in Pisces, Trining your Chirons. Neptune is now in Pisces (Yay!). Pluto in Scorpio is sextiled Pluto in Capricorn.

So much outer planet connection and action between you-all and these Pluto in Capricorn kids. Pretty cosmic, in a functional and REAL, way.
 
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