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Unread 06-27-2018, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Januarystorm View Post
Would you say it is more an internal rage - like a silent rage that only is noticable to you yourself as you are able to control it and use to your advantage when you want to (most of the time)
Right on the target. 😀
Internal Rage cos of bully,faliure in life and neglected by others.
Some how I have learnt it to control a little bit now(but not totally).
But sometimes it goes out of control.
And talk about those soft aspetcs.
I think I have a charm.
It may be social charm ?
Cos I have no Romantic relationship yet.
Sadly I have to learn a lot to use those soft aspetcs to make good things for me.

Than you very much!

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Unread 06-28-2018, 12:57 AM
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Re: Whats your most difficult aspect/s you've had to deal with in your chart ?

Mars square Neptune. 😱
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Re: Whats your most difficult aspect/s you've had to deal with in your chart ?

asteroid 747 in the 6th house. I get anxious if I don't spend time in airports.
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Unread 06-28-2018, 06:12 AM
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Re: Whats your most difficult aspect/s you've had to deal with in your chart ?

What ?
My 747 in Scorpio 6th.
****, never fly in a plane. 😴
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Re: Whats your most difficult aspect/s you've had to deal with in your chart ?

sun square neptune.
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Unread 07-28-2018, 07:22 PM
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Re: Whats your most difficult aspect/s you've had to deal with in your chart ?

My Moon conjunct Saturn is pretty fierce. I grew up too fast and have a lot of difficulty with interpersonal emotional expression.
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Re: Whats your most difficult aspect/s you've had to deal with in your chart ?

Originally Posted by Sagcap88 View Post
Mars square Neptune. ��
Is there any chance you can explain why this is ?

Im seeing a guy with this aspect, so curious as to why your finding it difficult.
Y@ur 3ner9y intr@duc3s 7ou B3fore y@u even sp3@k
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Unread 09-14-2018, 05:34 AM
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I have 7 squares and a serious opposition in my chart. All have brought their challenges.

But the one aspect that has most clearly affected my life's path is an (applying) partile quincunx Moon-Uranus, abetted by a partile sesquicuadrate Moon-Jupiter. Moon is ruler of the horoscope.

Both of these aspects matured within a few weeks after birth by secondary progression (motion of the Moon), so they are very deeply rooted.

Do not under-estimate the power of the minor aspects

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Unread 10-06-2018, 12:30 AM
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Re: Whats your most difficult aspect/s you've had to deal with in your chart ?

I have found my sun conjunct mercury conjunct mars and all are squaring pluto which is on the midheaven the most difficult. My family life has been very difficult because they were very manipulative especially with emotional stuff and always trying to get a response out of me or trying to hurt me. This behaviour stopped after i started ignoring them and being cold emotionally and then they just gave up. I feel that it is very important to be in equal relationships and not ones where the person tries to play power games or manipulation. I am very cautious now about entering relationships just to be sure the person is genuine in being my friend rather than just looking for some one to play games with.
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Just my Sun-Moon-Asc combo alone is difficult for me in general because I’m a Scorpio sun, Aquarius moon, Capricorn ascendant. Sun conjunct my venus and I’ve always wanted to express myself artistically in an intense and passionate way, but Capricorn Rising kinda blocks that I have to keep cool, calm and collected mature facade and a detached attitude to my own emotions and vulnerabilty is influenced by Moon. Aquarius is also ruled by saturn traditionally. I literally come off across as eccentric, aloof, restricted, conservative, put-together, and overall repressed. People also tell me that they literally don’t know what to expect of me sometimes because I seem to keep it all hidden behind this rough exterior which is pretty much very Scorpio sometimes. Not even my family sees the passion and fire I have within me, and sees my sometimes bubbly behavior as immature, superficial and “not me” as they would assume, when in fact I really have an energetic and imaginative inner child within me. They seem to don’t know how to accept with me because they always me as someone who should be mature and behaved all the time.

But I find that all of that really comes down to the Saturn’s influence in my chart. It IS my chart ruler, it’s in Fall (Aries) and in an anaretic degree in 4th house. These are all “negative” or rather “uncomfortable” positions of Saturn.

Sun is opposite Saturn. 10th house-4th house axis. Sun-Saturn aspects always does repress one’s expression or personality. I want to be the director of my own life. I want to lead my own path and not be tied down by any other opinion, idea that does not resonate who I really am in my core, but I have responsibilities in regards to home matters and family, as I am the eldest child and is expected to be the next breadwinner and take over the finances (Saturn 4th). With Cap rising and Saturn 4th, it really makes sense why my parents places all those responsibilities and expectations on me. In opposition aspect, I still struggle to balance those responsibilties and expectations with what i really want to do and what i aim for in life (Sun 10th), career wise/life purpose. I don’t know if those responsibilities are actually tying me down or holding me back, or I’m still having to learn how to take responsibiltiy either of my family or my own life.

Saturn is also in very tight square to Neptune, which is in capricorn in 1st house. To me this really states that I struggle to get grounded with reality soemtimes. Ideas and inspirations never see the light of day because they’re always hidden and never manifested tangibly. I also see this as someone who has trouble taking responsibilities because of high escapism tendencies. Fortunately, I don’t take resort to drugs or alcohol for that. But I find that its a good outlet for my artistic tendencies. Sometimes, spiritual matters or tendencies can be a way for me to escape reality, and I’ve learned the hard way that I should be more careful with this.

But its actually funny that with all these Saturnian lessons, 4th house lessons, 10th house lessons, My Sun sabian symbol (5 Scorpio) represents a “massive rocky shore resists the pounding of the sea”. Seems like Saturn is building me up with real strength and willpower. It all connects together, y’know. It’s fascinating.
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Unread 11-03-2018, 06:41 PM
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Re: Whats your most difficult aspect/s you've had to deal with in your chart ?

For me, it's gotta be my Saturn conjuncting my descendant extremely closely (less than half a degree). It has manifested very strongly, in my opinion. I have never had a romantic relationship ever, and I am 39. Any brush with anything even remotely resembling a relationship all ended in pain and heart-break. Luckily for me that now I no longer feel that having a man by my side will complete my life. I am content to be alone now.

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Growing up: 3rd Moon sq 6th Mercury, combust Mercury....felt deeply inferior to my high-achieving, objective, mathematically gifted dad + brothers + peers. Saturn sq Asc, Moon sq Pluto gave me a sad and lonely adolescence.

Now: Probably the 6th stellium, making lots of squares to the Moon, MC, chiron. Really struggling with avoidance and shyness in my daily life and a barrage of (probably psychosomatic) illnesses. Lots to push through, but astrology is really helping me understand what to tackle and how. And I trust my Sun conj Pluto to help me transform.

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Unread 11-14-2018, 07:30 PM
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Sun Square Saturn-Parents divorced when I was 7, grew up without a father or father figure. Dad was a Taurus with Mercury in Aries, really brash and insensitive towards me, used corporal punishment against me one time when he was going through messy emotions related to his marriage with my mom and his unfulfilled work / career aspirations. It makes me feel a seething hatred, even to this day, for dominant male figures who always want to be the proverbial "man of the house", I feel a sense of repulsion towards many socially accepted ideals of what a man, a father should be and very much identify with things that are more feminine and motherly. I know that if I have children I'll be, in many ways, like a second mother to them rather than a typical father. Since my Saturn's in my 4th house, I've also fought a long battle with the emotionally abusive maternal side of my family and only now am I starting to see a glimmer of hope for the better. After becoming a teenager I got to spend some time with my dad, things went alright at first but then I was really turned off by his desire to lead, dominate, and shape me into an "ideal male" that he wishes he could have raised me to become. I broke off all ties, he has started another family anyway so I honestly don't bother with him nor do I want to.

Perhaps another way that this square impacts my life is how Saturn represents rigidity and even ultra-conservatism. I can be a very rigid, unwavering person when it comes to my core beliefs and morals, and I am more often than not extremely unwilling to do / try new things and to deviate from my established patterns of thinking. Some have said that I need to be more open, accepting, ambitious and adventurous in order to reach my true potential, and maybe that's true, but I'm unwilling to make compromises on the ideas I hold dear. I feel that I certainly haven't kept up with the times in many ways, and there's something strong in me that prevents me from making possible "progress". I have a very deep fear of change when it comes to location, the world in general, the way others are, lifestyle / routine, my own personality, my values and ideas. "You've changed" is one of the things I'm most afraid of hearing, even when these changes are positive to others. I'd rather just be the same old me throughout my whole life, for better or worse. This deep-seated fear of change, and how tightly I cling to my deepest values that are often old-fashioned, come as a shock because even many older people in Western societies were much more free-spirited during their twenties, so they can't comprehend how a 22-year old Millennial in 2018 can be so serious and held back when it comes to some things that they think everyone must at least TRY once in their lives.

The whole idea of "youth", and my relationship to it, is a bit complicated. Part of me tries to deny the youth in me, because I feel repulsed by the carefree, energetic, and passionate qualities often associated with youth. I know that's not who I fundamentally am, nor what I want to be, as an individual. However, sometimes I also have a bit of a longing for "what could have been", and I have a bit of admiration for other guys and girls, whether from my own culture (East Asian) or other cultures who don't necessarily think the way I do, who allow themselves to be carefree, to be passionate, and to enjoy life without so much restraint, even do some silly things like get drunk and have lots of sex. To me, there are times when I feel a sense of loss because I've never experienced that feeling. How can I do something, how can I choose to be with someone without any consideration for what may happen in the future, to just enjoy the HERE AND NOW? Apart from being an introvert by nature, in some ways I never had the chance to be young and wild. Dealing with my parents' divorce, and having to put up with an emotionally immature mom and abusive relatives on her side, I had to "be the adult" and take on emotional **** that I'd never wish on any young person. My life, up until fairly recently, was characterized by the need the preservation of my very sanity, while also protecting and defending my values against a world I can't keep up with and in many ways, I'd very much avoid. I sometimes imagine whether I would have become a freer, happier, and more open-minded person had circumstances been kinder to me, but it is what it is and all I can say is I hope life doesn't throw too much at me from here on. Whether that will be the case, I'll find out.

I have a deep longing for peace, for simplicity, and security more than anything else. Since Saturn deals with reticence while the Sun's about self-expression, I have a fear and suspicion of self-expression, and I sort of look up to people who can do this more easily. Even positive and acceptable expressions of ego and self-esteem, I tend to view them as fake and undesirable. I value modesty and self-denial to a fault. I don't know how to handle a compliment though deep down I like being complimented. I can be judgmental of people who hold more "progressive" and "modern" views of the things I value, though I'll rarely let them know. It's hard for me to comprehend why someone would live a life that's exciting, energetic, perhaps even unpredictable over a life that's quiet and content, though again I sometimes wish I had more of a "spark" in me.

If I become a dad, I see myself as a dad who's deeply loving and devoted to my children, who wants them to explore and experience things I've never had the opportunity to, but another side of me will want to influence, even impose some of my values on them. In many ways I'd relate to them more like a mother than a typical father. I can be unsure of myself and what's right for my children.

Mercury Square Saturn-While I'm an introvert by nature, this aspect certainly hasn't helped me when it comes to expressing my thoughts and feelings better. I had a close relationship with my mom as a kid and as I grew older it became a bit rocky, but when it came to dealing with the relatives on her side I couldn't show my true self to them because it was really a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of relationship dynamic, if you know what I mean. I also HATE making plans and having to make conclusive decisions unless it's 1) Something I REALLY, and I mean REALLY care about 2) I'm forced to by circumstances or pushed by someone else, if it's the latter I need to be pushed quite a bit. As Mercury governs thought and intellect, it could augment what I've described about how Sun Square Saturn influences my values and patterns of thinking.

I'd say these two, especially Sun Square Saturn, have impacted my life most negatively. It's funny how the two most feminine planets, Moon and Venus, are Trine in my chart, while the two most "fatherly" / masculine planets, Sun and Saturn, are Square each other. I've made more female than male friends throughout the course of my life so far, and sometimes I feel as if I have an easier time talking and relating to women than men.

If I really had to come up with a third aspect, I'd say perhaps Venus Sextile Saturn. Now you're wondering, why would I think such an aspect could be a struggle? I'll start off by saying that in most ways I'm glad to have this aspect, especially with a Gemini Venus, because it brings an element of commitment and stability in love that Gemini Venus would otherwise not suggest. I have an almost paranoid fear of three things when it comes to my romantic life: 1) Divorce 2) Infidelity, whether myself or my spouse, whether it's purely driven by desire or circumstances+desire working together 3) Finding the right spouse late or never finding her. I'm an idealistic traditionalist who wants to get married by 25-26, 29-30 is late for me. Why? Because I am charmed by the idea that I've found my love relatively early in life and I'll be with her until I die. I also believe that when we're younger, things are easier because being older we can have too many mental obstacles that tie us up, and being single for long periods of time, I fear, will lead to being accustomed to it. I don't know. Maybe I can't even fully explain why I hold such an ideal that seems to run totally contrary to the modern world, but it's not something I'm willing to let go of. I also fear that as the years go by I'll change into a completely different person, which I view as a betrayal of myself if not anyone else.

I'm not a typically romantic guy who gives flowers and plans fancy and / or exciting dates. I show my love through doing little things, through my friendship and companionship during both times of joy and times of sadness. I have no idea how to seduce, how to be romantic and I tend to view many fancier expressions of love as a little unnecessary. As it's traditionally been said in China, a loving and lasting marriage transforms love into kinship. I find myself attracted to people who are older in age, or at least in soul. I don't think I've ever connected with someone who's younger in mind / soul than me, because I feel that they don't fulfill my need to be protected and looked after. Sometimes I wish I could be romantic, and people have said that it can be learned, but I'm not convinced. If I had to come up with a definition of being romantic, it would be getting takeaway for my other half at 6PM on a winter evening when it's already cold and pitch black and she's hungry but too tired to go outside. Maybe this is also related to Venus in the 6th?

I have trouble relating to most girls, or should I say, most people of my age or slightly younger. It's like they just don't share the same priorities as I do, and they find my deeply held, somewhat reticent values quite repulsive.

Apologize for the super long post, to some of you it's as if I've already told you half of my whole life story. While I can't say I'm not happy with the way I am and I don't wish I could swap bodies and minds with someone else, every once in a while I do feel a little down when I compare myself to some peers who are more youthful and less worried about..... certain things. Once again, it is what it is. I'm sure the world won't change if I didn't exist, people would still do whatever they've always done. Who knows? Maybe people like me are halting progress, but I tend to have a negative view when it comes to much of what society views as "progress." One is economic development and others are more sensitive issues that are best left for another day and setting.

Last thing I want to say is, I'm an INFP on the Myers-Briggs. INFPs make up 2-3% of the population, that's a tragically low percentage.

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Unread 11-15-2018, 04:10 PM
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Sun conj venus T-square Moon and Pluto hands down.
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Unread 11-19-2018, 05:35 PM
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It's isn't exactly difficult now, but for a long time i thought i was weak and lacked that mars energy in myself. I have mars in 8H leo now. Conjunct vertex and chiron. Maybe this an indication as to why i wasn't so aware of it before.
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