Will Trump become the first US Dictator?

Dirius

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He wanted to take an unscheduled walk to an historic Church, to pose for a photo op holding up a bible. He used violent force against peaceful protesters to clear the way for him, like any dictator would.

Hahaha. Seriously? It is adorable that you think that is an example of a dictatorship.

It just really serve to show how priviliged and peaceful your life is.
 

david starling

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Hahaha. Seriously? It is adorable that you think that is an example of a dictatorship.

It just really serve to show how priviliged and peaceful your life is.

You're used to that sort of thing???

No one says it's a dictatorship yet. But Trump has the personality of a dictator, as this incident proves. Whether or not he can turn the U.S. into a dictatorship is another matter.

What about Elena's horary question?
 

david starling

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David provided the example. One example. Just one example amongst many.

Further, https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-campaign-election-t-shirt-nazi-1514950

that is his inspiration. People like Erdogan, Putin and Kim Jong Un are the sort of leaders he looks up to.

Thing is I am not looking to convince anybody here. I am just very surprised at certain people on this forum I held in high stead thru their astrology posts, but their thought process and their impressions of trump are very telling of what they are about as human beings.

You left out his buddy Duarte, who engages in "extra-judicial" executions. Trump said he thought that was a good idea, along with Xi Jinping's decision to become "President for Life".
 

david starling

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Duterte is a self-admitted dictator. His latest edict is that he's ordered the police and military to shoot and kill anyone who violates the Corona Virus lockdown.
 

david starling

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Self-admitted dictator Duterte cares more about his country's citizens dying from Covid-19 than Trump, who really doesn't care at all about saving people's lives. Trump does care quite a bit about about saving Confederate statues though.
 

aquarius7000

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You're used to that sort of thing???

No one says it's a dictatorship yet. But Trump has the personality of a dictator, as this incident proves. Whether or not he can turn the U.S. into a dictatorship is another matter.

Well, it is sort of understandable now, isn't it? The common man, like you and I, does openly say he is acts like a dictator. People know jolly well how trump operates - as a dictator. Open your mouth to speak the truth - most often it is unpleasant - and he will use his pet 'F' word: Fired !!:biggrin: If it is not someone he can Fire, he will fire away calling it the other 'F' word: Fake !!:biggrin:

See that is how dictators operate. In the US, it is a little more difficult to get such a person simple wiped off from the face of this earth, but if he were the Sultan of one of the conservative arab countries, he might have resorted to that even.
 

Dirius

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Self-admitted dictator Duterte cares more about his country's citizens dying from Covid-19 than Trump, who really doesn't care at all about saving people's lives. Trump does care quite a bit about about saving Confederate statues though.

First of all - the states which have suffered the most from Covid19 have been democrat blue states, mostly because of poor decisionmaking from the governors of those states.

In NY Cuomo sent covid infected patients into nursing homes. How is that Trump's fault?

Second of all, you can't have an eternal quarantine. At some point people need to be able to go out and work and produce so they can feed their families.
 

aquarius7000

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Self-admitted dictator Duterte cares more about his country's citizens dying from Covid-19 than Trump, who really doesn't care at all about saving people's lives. Trump does care quite a bit about about saving Confederate statues though.
True...

And, of course, this here might be very educational for some:

Government leadership https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK143067/
While all sectors of society are involved in pandemic preparedness and response, the national government is the natural leader for overall coordination and communication efforts. In its leadership role, the central government should:

identify, appoint, and lead the coordinating body for pandemic preparedness and response; enact or modify legislation and policies required to sustain and optimize pandemic preparedness, capacity development, and response efforts across all sectors;
prioritize and guide the allocation and targeting of resources to achieve the goals as outlined in a country's Pandemic Influenza Preparedness Plan;
provide additional resources for national pandemic preparedness, capacity development, and response measures; and
consider providing resources and technical assistance to countries experiencing outbreaks of influenza with pandemic potential.
 

david starling

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First of all - the states which have suffered the most from Covid19 have been democrat blue states, mostly because of poor decisionmaking from the governors of those states.

In NY Cuomo sent covid infected patients into nursing homes. How is that Trump's fault?

Second of all, you can't have an eternal quarantine. At some point people need to be able to go out and work and produce so they can feed their families.

Those are the most populated States. The more rural areas tend to be safer.
 

david starling

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You mean Duterte, the self-described socialist? Member of the socialist party?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Rodrigo_Duterte

His attitude towards abortion is like Sanger's. He's willing to stand up to the Catholic Church (which has a lot of influence in the Philippines) by encouraging family planning using contraceptives, and is against abortion unless the mother's life is in danger.
The current abortion laws are so strict that there are absolutely NO abortions allowed under ANY circumstances, with prison terms for everyone involved. These anti-abortion laws were put in place during U.S. occupation in the colonial period.
 
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david starling

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One important reason to replace Trump is so that he can't "pack" the Supreme Court with his own supporters. That's what gives Duterte his dictatorship abilities.
 

david starling

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Some anti-abortion zealots might be willing to accept a Trump dictatorship in the belief he would then be able to unilaterally end legal abortion for the entire country.

But, as "President for Life", he'd no longer need the votes he gets for pretending to be anti-abortion. He really doesn't care.
 
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eekndyn

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Some anti-abortion zealots might be willing to accept a Trump dictatorship in the belief he would then be able to unilaterally end legal abortion for the entire country.

But, as "President for Life", he'd no longer need the votes he gets for pretending to be anti-abortion. He really doesn't care.

Meh. You know David, if you don't stand for something you will fall for anything. Even Peter denied Jesus 3 times. You are on a continuous loop of nonsense. If you support murdering children, child molestation, child trafficking, child sacrificing then I know where you stand and you can stay in your lane. I will only judge a tree by its fruit. I will still continue to pray for you.

POTUS declared the drug hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin were an effective treatment and he was smeared to only come out in scientific study the effectiveness. A fart can pass through two layers of clothing and still be smelled. Face mask are thee biggest joke. Every box is labeled with the warning this will not prevent coronovirus or any virus or containment, except n95 respirator, which should only be used by medical staff who deals sick patients.

This lab made virus is the smartest virus in our time. It first imploded prior to lockdown in blue states. With POTUS leaving full control to the governors. Now it seems to only effect the red states where rallys are planned. For every 1 positive case 16 cases are added automatically to the list for people whom may have been in contact. A Dr. sent 7 unused test to the lab with faux names, the results all test postive.

Now a second wave because jobs are booming. I mean answer honestly, was the economy better before January 19, 2017 or after? We went from blow jobs, to no jobs to booming record setting jobs. 6,000,000 people have independently removed themselves from government assistance and made something of themselves without depending on others. "Orange man bad. Orange man racist." He was only termed those names until he ran for presidency and they didnt agree with his policy.
 

david starling

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Meh. You know David, if you don't stand for something you will fall for anything. Even Peter denied Jesus 3 times. You are on a continuous loop of nonsense. If you support murdering children, child molestation, child trafficking, child sacrificing then I know where you stand and you can stay in your lane. I will only judge a tree by its fruit. I will still continue to pray for you.

POTUS declared the drug hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin were an effective treatment and he was smeared to only come out in scientific study the effectiveness. A fart can pass through two layers of clothing and still be smelled. Face mask are thee biggest joke. Every box is labeled with the warning this will not prevent coronovirus or any virus or containment, except n95 respirator, which should only be used by medical staff who deals sick patients.

This lab made virus is the smartest virus in our time. It first imploded prior to lockdown in blue states. With POTUS leaving full control to the governors. Now it seems to only effect the red states where rallys are planned. For every 1 positive case 16 cases are added automatically to the list for people whom may have been in contact. A Dr. sent 7 unused test to the lab with faux names, the results all test postive.

Now a second wave because jobs are booming. I mean answer honestly, was the economy better before January 19, 2017 or after? We went from blow jobs, to no jobs to booming record setting jobs. 6,000,000 people have independently removed themselves from government assistance and made something of themselves without depending on others. "Orange man bad. Orange man racist." He was only termed those names until he ran for presidency and they didnt agree with his policy.

ANY President would have presided over a great economy. It was on the rebound before Trump was elected, and that massive tax cut for the wealthiest and the mega-corporations spurred it on afterwards with bipartisan support in Congress. Obama was already bringing jobs into the U.S. from Canada. The real credit goes to the American people for their willingness to work hard and do good work, and to attempt to better their financial situation. It's built into the American psyche, and it doesn't need a President to inspire it. It would have happened on its own. Trump's only "contribution" was to brag about it and take credit where credit isn't due.

Trump locked up migrant children, taking them away from their parents, something Obama did not do, although he did threaten it to frighten potential illegal immigrants. Some of these children were abused, and some have "disappeared" to God knows where, even possibly falling prey to human traffickers. Trump's response was to send his wife to view a detention facility, wearing a jacket saying she "really didn't care"!

Trump had no problem with Planned Parenthood, abortion and all, before he crafted his campaign to appeal to anti-abortionists in the swing-States. He stands for nothing but narcissistic egotism and a lust for power and authority.
 
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eekndyn

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If you are referring to the locked up children in cages, you do realize that took place between 2011-2014. With a particular photo with children in cages used to as Trump's doing, was actually dated 2014. Sooooo, who was in office then
 

aquarius7000

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ANY President would have presided over a great economy. It was on the rebound before Trump was elected, and that massive tax cut for the wealthiest and the mega-corporations spurred it on, with full bipartisan support. Obama was already bringing jobs into the U.S. from Canada. The real credit goes to the American people for their willingness to work hard and do good work, and to attempt to better their financial situation. It's built into the American psyche, and it doesn't need a President to inspire it. It would have happened on its own. Trump's only "contribution" was to brag about it and take credit where credit isn't due.
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The employment boom in 2017 had nothing to do with the current man in the WH. It had been happening at a steady rate during his predecessor's time, in fact.

"In 2017, the U.S. economy completed its eighth year of expansion following the Great Recession, and most labor market measures continued to improve as well.1 By the end of the year, the unemployment rate had hit a 17-year low."
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2018/a...employment-rate-declined-to-a-17-year-low.htm

It is extremely interesting how those completely besotted and infatuated by him seem to think that everything good during the nearly 4 yrs is due to Trump, but everything not so good is due to Obama or China or some sh!thole country. To me that is the effect of a dictator on weak-minded masses that are either completely oblivious of the reality around them (so one or any no. of examples won't help), or can just identify better with a dictator - which then shows there is a deeper issue at hand with the society (which I really fear is more the case).
 
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