translation of light?

[hyphen]

hello there!
I made a chart asking if I'll make a love relationship with a guy I like.
sun is seperating from saturn but mercury is going to conjunct sun after making a trine with saturn. can we consider this as translation of light???
But saturn is retro and going to conjunct uranus... So I think its a no..
I dont know.. Any help?
Here's the chart

[tikana]

i have to incline to say yes

cause merc is faster than sun
with retro merc is slower than the sun

it shouldnt affect a general rule of TOL

[Oddity]

Mercury is moving away from the sun. And they won't meet in Taurus, either, so....not so sure about this. I'd be inclined to say no.

[tikana]

Originally Posted by Oddity

Mercury is moving away from the sun. And they won't meet in Taurus, either, so....not so sure about this. I'd be inclined to say no.

yeah but merc perfects with saturn

[Oddity]

So how would Mercury take Saturn's light to the sun? Worse because both Merc and Saturn are rx.

[tikana]

umm merc receives sun by face
saturn gets merc by aspect
yes true bad reception BUT saturn wins. it is the heaviest and saturn is the most dignified

[IleneK]

Originally Posted by tikana

umm merc receives sun by face
saturn gets merc by aspect
yes true bad reception BUT saturn wins. it is the heaviest and saturn is the most dignified

Just to clarify please:

1. So you are saying that there is a reception component to TOL, as in merc receives sun by face?

2. And that the faster planet does not have to perfect,
but rather only has to apply to one sig while separating from the other?

Thank you, my friend.

[hyphen]

I'm confused here..

[tikana]

Originally Posted by IleneK

Just to clarify please:

1. So you are saying that there is a reception component to TOL, as in merc receives sun by face?

2. And that the faster planet does not have to perfect,
but rather only has to apply to one sig while separating from the other?

Thank you, my friend.

yeah my darlin

okay lets look

we have 2 separating planets .. correct?
3rd one merc is the fastest among 2 .. correct?
it is retro .. ya?
now we need to look at table of dignities to find Mercury
in either sun or saturn, there has to be mercury

we see mercury term in sun

therefore there is TOL.

[IleneK]

Originally Posted by tikana

yeah my darlin

okay lets look

we have 2 separating planets .. correct?
3rd one merc is the fastest among 2 .. correct?
it is retro .. ya?
now we need to look at table of dignities to find Mercury
in either sun or saturn, there has to be mercury

we see mercury term in sun

therefore there is TOL.

This was a really helpful instuctional example.
Thank you.

[breeze]

Mercury has separated from Sun, and it is now applying to Saturn. So, that is techinically ToL.

However, we need to look at the receptions between the planets if ToL will "actually" take place.

Saturn is at the detriment of Mercury. A planet will not receive another planet from its detriment. So, Mercury will not transfer Sun's light to Saturn.

Mercury is at the fall of Saturn which is is to say Saturn wld. not be happy/ regret with the outcome if Mercury EVER transferred the light of Sun to Saturn ( if Saturn was in another sign rather than Sag or Pisces )

So, Sun and Saturn is not like to become together.

Also, Uranus is conjuct MC which is in the nature of separation/ splitting.

Regards

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by tikana

yeah my darlin
okay lets look

we have 2 separating planets .. correct?
3rd one merc is the fastest among 2 .. correct?
it is retro .. ya?
now we need to look at table of dignities to find Mercury
in either sun or saturn, there has to be mercury

we see mercury term in sun

therefore there is TOL.

Sun is in Terms of Venus

however
Sun IS in Face of Mercury = very weak reception
Mercury receives Sun by Face

Mercury is in Exaltation and Triplicity of Sun = strong reception
Sun receives Mercury by Exaltation and Triplicity

Mercury IS in terms of Saturn using Egyptian Terms
Saturn receives Mercury by term

Saturn is in Suns Triplicity
Sun receives Saturn by Triplicity

Originally Posted by breeze

Mercury has separated from Sun, and it is now applying to Saturn. So, that is techinically ToL.

However, we need to look at the receptions between the planets if ToL will "actually" take place.

Saturn is at the detriment of Mercury.
A planet will not receive another planet from its detriment.
So, Mercury will not transfer Sun's light to Saturn.

Except that Saturn receives Mercury by term

Originally Posted by breeze

Mercury is at the fall of Saturn
which is is to say Saturn wld. not be happy/ regret with the outcome
if Mercury EVER transferred the light of Sun to Saturn
( if Saturn was in another sign rather than Sag or Pisces )

So, Sun and Saturn is not like to become together.

Also, Uranus is conjuct MC which is in the nature of separation/ splitting.

Regards

[rafaella]

Originally Posted by hyphen

hello there!
I made a chart asking if I'll make a love relationship with a guy I like.
sun is seperating from saturn but mercury is going to conjunct sun after making a trine with saturn. can we consider this as translation of light???
But saturn is retro and going to conjunct uranus... So I think its a no..
I dont know.. Any help?
Here's the chart

Not seeing a relationship. Sun and Saturn have no aspect. Both Mercury and Saturn are debilitated here, being rx is not a good thing. Mercury and Saturn have a mutual negative reception, Plus a rx planet here cannot translate light or give its own light.

So we focus on Moon and Saturn, there is an aspect. Moon exalts Venus, Moon is mute and peregrine. Saturn rx but in triplicity of Sun. So this shows Saturn has some interest in Sun, but its not that strong.

The aspect is there and some reception, but its not a positive chart. It may mean some dating that fizzles out. He will back away. So ultimately its a no.

edit: what you suggest above that Mercury applies to Saturn then changes sign and applies to Sun, its a no...the translation has to be within the one sign, change of sign changes people, situation outcomes.... I once had an out of sign aspect between the significators and the question was whether I would get the apartment, I did get an apartment but not the one I initially asked about. This is just an example.