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[SunConjunctUranus]

Waa gwaan, mi general?

[Ukpoohbear]

Originally Posted by david starling

Anyone enjoying Sun in Scorp yet?

No! I mean, it’s intense.

[david starling]

Originally Posted by SunConjunctUranus

Waa gwaan, mi general?

Wuzzup?

[david starling]

Originally Posted by Ukpoohbear

No! I mean, it’s intense.

Yeah, takes some getting used to.

[david starling]

Regarding table manners, there was a saying, "Don't eat with your mouth open--a fly might get in." to admonish children. So, here's a fun saying playing off of that:
"Don't think with an open mind--a new idea might get in." Food for thought!

[david starling]

Originally Posted by conspiracy theorist

So I spoke with Jeremy Neal regarding the two articles I posted on here a while back. For the one about Pluto's dignities, he created a system based on the ideas of Alexander Volguine, who he first encountered in the 1980s. He culled from the journal Volguine wrote called Cahiers Astrologique, where Volguine derived a system of dignity based on the Hindu Shadbalas. Since then he's tweaked, refined and made it his own factoring in things such as reception and ferality. He finds his personally constructed system very useful for the insights its garnered him.

As to the one on the levels of human consciousness, his gotten a lot of inspiration from the ideas of David Hawkins, and he summed up by saying that the scale was derived at using kinesiology. The indication is that this isn't the whole picture, but he assured me that it was essentially true.

I conjecture that based on what he said about the planetary scale, that he might have culled from things such as the study of pressure points and the chakra systems in the body. That's just my hunch anyway. In any event, there is something pleasing to me about the fact that this scale has an element of embodiment or significance to the body. In a way it seems to hit upon what passiflora was alluding to when she spoke about the psychodynamics of an astrological system.

I also asked him about the ages. Essentially it says while he enjoys unravelling occult mysteries, he much rather focus on the areas of astrology that will aid in further self-actualisation and functioning in societies with its complex social expectations. I could PM you his exact words on the matter, David.

You could hit him up at chirotic.school@gmail. He's pretty cordial, although he won't go into too much details as to how he has come to his conclusions astrology, partly because a lot of it is embodied and intuitive knowledge accumulated over a lifetime of doing astrology.

As a professional, he's understandably not teaching his proprietary methods. Is "self-actualisation" his own description? Sounds kind of "New Agey".
What still amazes me is how hooked nearly al! of the tropical, Modernistic astrologers are on the sidereal Age of Pisces concept. Even though it doesn't register on the tropical scale of measurement. It's like a religious viewpoint immune to logic.
Yes, I would like to know his exact words on the matter, thanks.

[passiflora]

Also, conspiracy theorist, if no one else has done it well enough, perhaps an embodied esoteric physiology / astrology could be written by you, pseudonymously, side project, etc.

[Gemini888]

Originally Posted by passiflora

One of the things I like about using nodes for spiritual evolutionary pointers is that everyone has them and one isn’t necessarily better than the other. Maybe that’s my Pisces SN talking, whatever

Does your SN conj your Saturn?

[david starling]

Mercury goes Retrograde on Nov. 1st, and will station Direct on Nov. 21st. In 12/12, which is a pattern based on Direct-motion, Mercury is a Benefactor in Scorpio. Good chance to see how its Retrograde-state affects that.

[david starling]

NOT liking Mars in Libra square Saturn in Capricorn.
It's exact tomorrow, in 24 hours.

[ynnest]

Originally Posted by david starling

NOT liking Mars in Libra square Saturn in Capricorn.
It's exact tomorrow, in 24 hours.

I Love those dry extended, stone hard and stone cold Saturn squares because it ***** those little rats dry of all their energies they have in their cheek pouches.

Y

[Ukpoohbear]

Originally Posted by david starling

NOT liking Mars in Libra square Saturn in Capricorn.
It's exact tomorrow, in 24 hours.

I think that’s the energy I’ve not been liking.

[david starling]

Originally Posted by passiflora

Stone hard and stone cold, huh.

I am starting electrical rewiring during Merc retro. It’s in my 2nd, a very retro project, unexpected expense. Now need to figure out if the latest electric-company-caused wildfires and blackouts mean adding a generator, another costly unplanned expense.

It's in my 9th. I'm hoping for some unexpected revelations.

[SunConjunctUranus]

Originally Posted by david starling

Wuzzup?

LeBum should retire and run for President instead!

[conspiracy theorist]

Originally Posted by david starling

As a professional, he's understandably not teaching his proprietary methods. Is "self-actualisation" his own description? Sounds kind of "New Agey".
What still amazes me is how hooked nearly al! of the tropical, Modernistic astrologers are on the sidereal Age of Pisces concept. Even though it doesn't register on the tropical scale of measurement. It's like a religious viewpoint immune to logic.
Yes, I would like to know his exact words on the matter, thanks.

Yes, self-actualisation is his words. Would you consider Maslow to be new age?

Reading between the lines of what he said, he didn't do an in-depth look into the Age of Aquarius phenomenon, and I think his opinion is understandable if you go by the most vocal and mainstream proponents of it. What you are doing with ages is unique, and you've focused on them extensively over the years. I don't think it's religiousity but more like the inertia of an idea that is accepted as a result of the sheer volume of its repetition.

[conspiracy theorist]

Originally Posted by passiflora

Thanks for doing that!
What are shadbalas?

I wanted to like David Hawkins - isn’t he MD / PhD? - and got one of his books 10-15 years ago but found it ... uh ... to have a number of unexamined or carelessly-absorbed-from-the-limited-environment kind of ideas. A lot of the levels of consciousness work done by various communities has this same kind of eurocentric or “I just HAVE to be better than you” underlying energy. Weirdly competitive. One of the things I like about using nodes for spiritual evolutionary pointers is that everyone has them and one isn’t necessarily better than the other. Maybe that’s my Pisces SN talking, whatever

It's been enough time since this post that you've probably went out and looked them up, but I'm going to post a link just because I can.
https://www.dirah.org/shadbala.htm

I'm unfamiliar with the shadbalas, as well as the two authors so I don't have much thoughts on the matter.

That observation regarding the competitiveness of western philosophies reminds me of this video essay I encountered a while back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGiajG2g-Nc

[conspiracy theorist]

Originally Posted by passiflora

Also, conspiracy theorist, if no one else has done it well enough, perhaps an embodied esoteric physiology / astrology could be written by you, pseudonymously, side project, etc.

It's an intriguing possibility, but I'd want to take such a project seriously, which would mean going deeply into esoteric practices that focus on the body and the energetics of the body, as well as a survey of all the ideas from antiquity till now, or at least the major ones. Stuff like mesmerism, yoga, Chinese martial arts etc. It's sounds like a wonderful project. Maybe I'll engage these projects when my progressed Mercury hits Aquarius, where it will be in conjunction with progressed Uranus.

Lately my faculties have been externalised, so that I'm not doing so much reading as I am doing a lot more listening and watching. I'm going with the flow of this new focus.

[conspiracy theorist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7h0M-imFb8

[david starling]

Mars in Libra square Saturn in Cap correlates to all these fires and blackouts in California. Our street's power went out 2 hours ago, whereas houses and street lights nearby are still on.
The info from PG&E stated explicitly that our area wouldn't be affected. Somebody blundered. No word yet on when our electricity will be restored.
Won't be able to charge the tablet, which is getting low.

[conspiracy theorist]

@passiflora

It's an interview with Jonna Mendes, former chief of disguise at the CIA. It touches on a lot of topics, from her how she got into the agency, her time there, the relationship with her husband who was also an agent, some of the tradecraft that they used (declassified of course), her book and the write ups of other agents and so forth. Great interview, wicked sharp woman and I've noted a couple of the book titles which I'll find later.

@David

Apparently Leader of ISIS Abu Bakr was taken out, and Trump is supposed to be giving a briefing on that tomorrow morning a 9am (didn't check the time zone). Good timing with the two malefics squaring off?

[david starling]

Originally Posted by conspiracy theorist

@passiflora

It's an interview with Jonna Mendes, former chief of disguise at the CIA. It touches on a lot of topics, from her how she got into the agency, her time there, the relationship with her husband who was also an agent, some of the tradecraft that they used (declassified of course), her book and the write ups of other agents and so forth. Great interview, wicked sharp woman and I've noted a couple of the book titles which I'll find later.

@David

Apparently Leader of ISIS Abu Bakr was taken out, and Trump is supposed to be giving a briefing on that tomorrow morning a 9am (didn't check the time zone). Good timing with the two malefics squaring off?

Advantage, Saturn.

[david starling]

Moon's in Scorp. [Tropical]

[Cold Fusion]

It's an asteroid! No, it's the new smallest dwarf planet in our solar system

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/world...eKxNgCf_D2dfyY

[david starling]

Originally Posted by Cold Fusion

It's an asteroid! No, it's the new smallest dwarf planet in our solar system

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/world...eKxNgCf_D2dfyY

Hygeia, goddess of hygiene. Must be a secondary Domicle-ruler of Virgo.

[Ukpoohbear]

Waiting for a bus for years and two come along at once