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Then whats the problem with defunding planned parenthood?
You really want to take away all of Planned Parenthood's high tech weaponry and privacy-invading surveillance equipment???

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[QUOTE=david starling;1051928]You really want to take away all of Planned Parenthood's high tech weaponry and privacy-invading surveillance equipment???
Planned parenthood kills more members of the black community each day to what police kill in a decade. Also, your comment about maga being racist. I have a solid for you, ask any maga supporter if they would rather have a conversation with a black conservative than a white liberal and I think you will be very surprised at the result.
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You really want to take away all of Planned Parenthood's high tech weaponry and privacy-invading surveillance equipment???
Planned parenthood kills more members of the black community each day to what police kill in a decade. Also, your comment about maga being racist. I have a solid for you, ask any maga supporter if they would rather have a conversation with a black conservative than a white liberal and I think you will be very surprised at the result.
"Great Again" means back in the days of Slavery, before Abolition. At first, I thought it was just about before the Civil Rights Movement and the end of the Jim Crow laws.

When does a human zygote officially become a "member of the black community"? And, when should a woman be forced to carry an unintended pregnancy to term?
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Re: A Discussion Thread About Racism in America

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Planned parenthood kills more members of the black community each day to what police kill in a decade.
Can you provide an explanation for this statement?
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"Great Again" means back in the days of Slavery, before Abolition. At first, I thought it was just about before the Civil Rights Movement and the end of the Jim Crow laws.

When does a human zygote officially become a "member of the black community"? And, when should a woman be forced to carry an unintended pregnancy to term?
Well think twice act once. If you are grown enough spread em, then maybe you should protect yourself. Maybe your mom should of thought of you as a zygote.
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Can you provide an explanation for this statement?
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.

This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
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I have a solid for you, ask any maga supporter if they would rather have a conversation with a black conservative than a white liberal and I think you will be very surprised at the result.
I am confused by the racial implications of this statement. Democracy, and governance that permits multiple views, is currently credited to white people in history books?
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I am confused by the racial implications of this statement. Democracy, and governance that permits multiple views, is currently credited to white people in history books?
He made the statement of staying making America great again is in fact racist. That was his opinion. I followed up with asking him to please ask maga supporters if they would rather have a conversation with a black conservative or a white liberal. Which his findings would be the opposite to his statement.
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Well think twice act once. If you are grown enough spread em, then maybe you should protect yourself. Maybe your mom should of thought of you as a zygote.
Gross!

What about rape and incest? No exceptions?
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Gross!

What about rape and incest? No exceptions?
Might want to check the facts sir. That makes up less than 1%
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On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.

This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
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It's the woman's choice. Have you forgotten that? Who are you to force women to give birth?
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Gross!

What about rape and incest? No exceptions?
Why does the fetus have to die for someone else's crime?

And children of incest have no right to life?
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Why does the fetus have to die for someone else's crime?

And children of incest have no right to life?
Are you for a zygote's "right to life"?
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It's the woman's choice. Have you forgotten that? Who are you to force women to give birth?
With all due respect David, would you like to see the difference between you and I. Ready. You're right. See that didn't hurt. I can humble myself to say such. Just like it is my choice to keep funding police.
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Might want to check the facts sir. That makes up less than 1%
So, you're okay with abortion for that <1% category?
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Are you for a zygote's "right to life"?
A "zygote" only exists for a few days, eventually becoming an Embryo. Abortions aren't practiced during the zygote stage, and zygotes are not always viable (they don't always succesfully implant in the uterine wall).

I'm in favour of the right to life for implanted embryos.
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With all due respect David, would you like to see the difference between you and I. Ready. You're right. See that didn't hurt. I can humble myself to say such. Just like it is my choice to keep funding police.
It's the excessive funding that's being criticized, not the funding necessary for them to be well-paid and sufficiently-equipped without turning our police forces into instruments of a Police State.
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So, you're okay with abortion for that <1% category?
No, its not the babies fault and my belief, which is far different than yours, God doesn't make mistakes. If I could and I would pay all medical cost to bring life to fruition and adopt each and every one. My heart is that big.
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It's the excessive funding that's being criticized, not the funding necessary for them to be well-paid and sufficiently-equipped without turning our police forces into instruments of a Police State.
They do not get paid enough.
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A "zygote" only exists for a few days, eventually becoming an Embryo. Abortions aren't practiced during the zygote stage, and zygotes are not always viable (they don't always succesfully implant in the uterine wall).

I'm in favour of the right to life for implanted embryos.
So, you're okay with contraceptives that prevent implantation?
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They do not get paid enough.
Well, they should be.
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Implantation takes place before or around the same time as her menstrual cycle is to start. If a woman is raped than she is free to go and take the morning after pill. Abortions are not preformed until there is a heartbeat.
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So, you're okay with contraceptives that prevent implantation?
yes that is being responsible. Or even a rubber, but not same as drunken fun time, or being so in the moment. But I won't judge, not my place.
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No, its not the babies fault and my belief, which is far different than yours, God doesn't make mistakes. If I could and I would pay all medical cost to bring life to fruition and adopt each and every one. My heart is that big.
You're definitely entitled to your religious beliefs. And, if all anti-abortionists were as caring and generous as you, the abortion rate would drop precipitously.
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So, you're okay with contraceptives that prevent implantation?
Contraceptive - by definition, prevents conception (fertilization).

If conception has already occured, it is not a "contraceptive".
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