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This is a plan to follow for beginning journey into Tantra.

Reading material -
three books of occult philosophy

Meditation routine -
In morning the mantra is OM KLEEM OM for 30 minutes
In evening the mantra is OM NAMA SHIVAYA for one hour meditation.

During meditation I use the Ganesha, Dhyana and Prana mudra's.

I also use guided meditation videos -

https://youtu.be/pbw4Q12_d0I

And learning hatha yoga with different asanas

https://youtu.be/-F6IBUIhvxc

Breathing is important and will come with yoga experience I think but the use of mantra and mudra with yoga will be put together after practice of this yoga.



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"Life is tragic simply because the earth turns and the sun inexorably rises and sets, and one day, for each of us, the sun will go down for the last, last time. Perhaps the whole root of our trouble, the human trouble, is that we will sacrifice all the beauty of our lives, will imprison ourselves in totems, taboos, crosses, blood sacrifices, steeples, mosques, races, armies, flags, nations, in order to deny the fact of death, which is the only fact we have. It seems to me that one ought to rejoice in the fact of death—ought to decide, indeed, to earn one’s death by confronting with passion the conundrum of life. One is responsible to life: It is the small beacon in that terrifying darkness from which we come and to which we shall return."

from James Baldwin's Essay 'from a region of my mind.'
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The woman can have up to 3 types of orgasms:
  • the clitoral,
  • the vaginal orgasm
  • the Valle orgasm
This last type of orgasm is rare in most women because they have to have a bedroom master next to them who is a bonfire, not a match.

The woman is like water, she first needs to warm up and then evaporate in the experience of orgasm. During the Valley orgasm, the woman is left in an orgasmic valley, and through a breathing technique she brings up all that heat and magic to the brain to regenerate it. When sexuality is practiced with awareness, it heals.

The man must be able to make the caress a wonder, the kisses a dilation of pleasures, and the penetration a just thrust to press in the most exotic and pleasant places of the woman.

There are different types of penetrations because the universe of a woman's vagina has different points, not only point G.

There is another point to develop while making love, it is called the Divine point, and it is her ear.

If you can make a woman's ear open and listen to poetry while you make her feel pleasure, then a new way of loving occurs.

So you start doing alchemy, not chemistry, you start making love, no more sex. Then you are a link between what she wants and wants. Then her smile will be more sincere, and her love more universal.

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Tantra alone is about practice and technique, discipline
We live in a culture where quickies, using **** for a masturbation session during lunch break, and generally just using sex for quick and easy release is promoted and normal


I feel like the focus on this thread is more about manifestation or concrete benefits or even spiritual theatrics. Tantric sex is about bringing sex to the spiritual level, drawing out the pleasure, leading to transcendent connection to self or to the partner, and to greater orgasm. It's not about a specific goal either. It's more about the journey


focus on every pleasure point and not going all in for the orgasm, and yet, it all ends up producing the most mindblowing orgasm possible


I don't think it needs to be complicated either. Just go in and don't go in just to achieve an orgasm, go in to get to know your body or the body of your partner

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I agree with your description of tantra being about not a specific goal of orgasm but about being present with yourself and with your partner and this in the end will lead to a deeper orgasm.

However, I do not think this can be achieved unless each partner is on a spiritual journey so that they may work in tandem.

For this reason, I am not too offended by your comments that this thread is about 'spiritual theatrics,' because it was written like 3 years ago when I was in an in-between stage of my spiritual journey. By this I mean, I had already met the shaman who had enlightened me but I had not yet self-realized the magic of his teachings and was only beginning m self-love journey. So the previous posts are nonsense really, unless it is not nonsense because I should not judge myself for being at an in-between stage, nor should I judge others for judging it, which helps me not be offended by anyone else judging me.

So it was three years of a self-love journey, including the past year I have been celibate. I read somewhere recently that it takes a highly-evolved spiritual person not to become deeply frustrated by a long period of celibacy. I can tell you, I have had moments of frustration every few months and even planning to have sex with someone, even though I ended up not.

The decision to be celibate was not even a conscious one but happened naturally through my self-love journey because I clearly, instinctively, and naturally, became removed from the majority of people who find it normal to engage in meaningless and animal-like behaviour. To me, the casual way of having sex, is nothing more than the filling of need on an animal level and the mere thought of it feels strongly suffocating and claustrophobic to me now.

Not that I was ever really involved in that, but I have engaged in casual sex and even in supposed relationships I was a willing conduit for men who would treat my body as nothing more than a crevice and I naively accepted it. This is a normal way to have sex for many people, to see sex as nothing more than the physical act of relieving tension.

A good friend of mine who has recently split from her long-term partner who she has kids with, nodded her head in agreement when I said most relationships do not have sex with love anyway. It is as if the woman submits to the man who has conquered her like a lion would a piece of prey and allows him to use her body as nothing more than a physical release, or using sex as a weapon to keep a man under your spell for fear of him leaving you or becoming distracted by another woman, which is black magic.

Without an open heart and communication from both people in a relationship, the sex life of a couple will be based on co-dependent and selfish desires. Seeing my friend nod her head, gave me a moment of realization, that it is easy to spot the sex life of a couple once you gauge if the stage of their spiritual awareness. Without first completing an individual journey of owning your own power and finding your voice, then neither the man or the woman would be capable of having sex that is pure, enlightened, and with light and not darkness.

I used to think it did not matter if the other person was spiritual or not, hence why I sometimes planned to break my celibacy with someone willing, but now I am not sure. It is not about judging a person but just that so many sous live in shadows, and so their actions, and especially the intimate act of sex, will be done in a debased and negative frame of mind, that I would be poisoning myself to engage with them so intimately. However, I do not think the person needs to be enlightened or have even completed their self-love journey, but at least needs to have an open and pure heart. But the truth is, most people are selfish unless they are genuinely willing to surrender themselves spiritually.

I have some beautiful artwork to share that has inspired my new views on sex. I have never been one to watch p.orn and now I know why because I was always underneath a spiritual person who had not yet been enlightened and p.orn is a debased animalistic thing, and it has never bothered me to try to be interested in p.orn, but to see the beautiful artwork of the act of sex and two people engaged so intimately, is so refreshing and inspiring to me, that I finally do like it. I can post some photos here which has inspired me but I hope the old Draconian ways of safeguarding against 'pornography' does not end up in an admin deleting the artwork.
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This is an example of the beautiful artwork I mean, I feel like calling it 'conscious pornography.'

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GENDER

"This Principle embodies the truth that there is gender manifested in everything - the Masculine and Feminine Principles ever at work. This is true not only of the Physical Plane, but of the Mental and even the Spiritual Planes.

On the Physical Plane, the Principle manifests as 'sex', on the higher planes it takes higher forms, but the Principle is ever the same. No creation, physical, mental or spiritual, is possible without this Principle. An understanding of its laws will throw light on many a subject that has perplexed the minds of men. The Principle of Gender works ever in the direction of generation, regeneration, and creation. Everything, and every person, contains the two Elements or Principles, or this great Principle, within it, him or her. Every Male thing has the Female Element also; every Female contains also the Male Principle.”


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SCIENCE OF BEING
Baron Eugene Fersen - 1923


"Like attracts like.

If the vibrations of the two parents are harmonious and of a high rate, a highly evolved soul will be attracted. If, on the contrary, both parties, or even one, will manifest vibrations of disharmony, vibrations of a low rate, a soul whose vibrations correspond to that rate will be thus attracted.

THEREFORE IT IS MOST ESSENTIAL THAT THE PROSPECTIVE PARENTS CONSIDER THAT BODILY UNION AS SOMETHING VERY SACRED AND PURE, AND THAT THEY PERFORM IT WITH A HIGHER OBJECT IN MIND THAN THE MERE GRATIFICATION OF A CARNAL APPETITE. IT MUST BE A GLORIOUS HYMN OF LOVE, IN WHICH EVERY FIBER OF THEIR TRIUNE BEING, BODY, MIND, AND SOUL, SENDS OUT ITS MOST PERFECT VIBRATIONS.

No physical union should ever be tolerated when the two parties are not in complete harmony with each other at that moment, else most disastrous effects will descend upon the child born of such a disharmonious union."


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THE ABILITY TO BE ALONE

"The ability to be alone is the ability to love. It may seem paradoxical to you, but it's not. It is an existential truth; only those who are able to be alone are able to love, to share, to reach the depths of the other person; without possessing the other person, without depending on it, without reducing it to one thing , and without getting addicted to it. They allow the other person to have total freedom because they know that if they leave, they will remain as happy as they are now. The other person can't snatch their happiness from them, because he's not the one who gave it to them.
So why do you want to be together?

It is no longer a necessity; it is a luxury. Try to understand. Authentic people love each other because it's a luxury, not a necessity. They enjoy sharing; they have a lot of joy, they would like to spill it on someone else. And they know how to interpret their life as soloists.

The flute soloist knows how to enjoy his flute alone. And if you happen to meet a guitarist, a string soloist, they will enjoy playing together and creating a harmony between flute and string. Both will enjoy: both will pour their wealth on the other person."

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Ok, just don’t crash!
Do you mean in case the positivity is like eating too much sugar which may lead to a deeper depression? I can understand why you may reach that conclusion from an outside perspective but that would only happen if you were in denial of your problems and were using the positivity to cover up the negativity, until suddenly it gets ripped off like a plaster/band-aid.

I have spent years dwelling in darkness, and even when hearing the concept of shadow work or being awoken to a purpose behind it all, sent years contemplating my way out of it. And I still do most days until a breakthrough occurs and I am able to be grateful and positive. In fact, with each breakthrough, a part of me probably stays a bit lighter each time.

Of course, I will crash again, not just with another moment of negative contemplation, but with the inevitability of future trauma that life no doubt has in store for me. I am afraid of it, of course, yet I know from looking back that through every past period of trauma, I have risen like a phoenix stronger and wiser each time.

For a while now though, things have been getting less chaotic and more stable and so it is not positivity built like a house on sand, but positivity built like a house on rocks.

I guess you could say I learnt to build my structure on top of rocks, due to those crashes.
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Here is a good phrase invented by a friend of mine on this forum which I then made into a meme, which I think describes the balance between positivity and crashing well -

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I like this. This is very insightful. Thank you 😊
Yes it’s handy to see it clearly, I’ll post more chakra information and exercises. I’ve only done a solar plexus one
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THE SEVEN CHAKRAS



- ROOT CHAKRA - I AM - BASE OF SPINE - EARTH - CHANT 'LAM'


- SACRAL CHAKRA - I FEEL - NAVEL - WATER - CHANT 'VAM'


- SOLAR PLEXUS CHAKRA - I DO - STOMACH - FIRE - CHANT 'RAM'


- HEART CHAKRA - I LOVE - CENTRE OF CHEST - AIR - CHANT 'YAM'


- THROAT CHAKRA
- I SPEAK - CENTRE OF NECK - ETHER - CHANT 'HAM'


- THIRD EYE CHAKRA - I SEE - BETWEEN EYEBROWS- TRANSCENDENTAL - CHANT 'AUM'


- CROWN CHAKRA - I KNOW- TOP OFF HEAD- NO ELEMENT - JUST LISTEN





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Beginner's Chakra Exercise


Think of this exercise as an introduction; you’re tuning in for, perhaps, the very first time:

  • First, start by making sure you’re in a quiet space. Sit quietly for a moment and take a few deep breaths. Let tension and stress slide away for a moment. Just be in the moment, with your body.

  • Now, bring your attention to the base of your spine, your tailbone, and imagine a bright spinning red light. Feel it pulsing and rotating with your breath. Sit with that for a moment.

  • Next, move your attention up your spine to the area a couple of inches below your belly button. Feel the warmth of a bright, orange spinning light. Again, notice how it moves with your breath.

  • Now, guide your attention to a couple inches above your belly button. You’re probably familiar with this area because when you feel strong emotions like love or fear, you likely feel it here. Notice how you can sense the intense yellow light rotating in that spot.

  • Bring your attention further up to the centre of your chest where your heart is. This area harnesses a bright green light. When you’re touched or moved, you might instinctively place your hand over this spot. Connect with that area now.

  • Then, bring your attention to your throat, the dip in between your collar bones. Imagine a bright blue light spinning in that area. You may feel the urge to swallow or clear your throat.

  • Next, move your attention up to the space between your eyebrows, your third eye. This area holds a deep indigo light. Imagine it spinning and becoming brighter.

  • Finally, shift your attention to the very top of your head. Imagine a vibrant, spinning violet light that shines right out of the top of your body. This light connects you to the universe. Feel the peace that comes with noticing this light.



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AS LONG AS we follow a spiritual approach promising salvation, miracles, liberation, then we are bound by the “golden chain of spirituality.” Such a chain might be beautiful to wear, with its inlaid jewels and intricate carvings, but nevertheless, it imprisons us. People think they can wear the golden chain for decoration without being imprisoned by it, but they are deceiving themselves. As long as one’s approach to spirituality is based upon enriching ego, then it is spiritual materialism, a suicidal process rather than a creative one. All the promises we have heard are pure seduction. We expect the teachings to solve all our problems; we expect to be provided with magical means to deal with our depressions, our aggressions, our sexual hangups. But to our surprise we begin to realize that this is not going to happen. It is very disappointing to realize that we must work on ourselves and our suffering rather than depend upon a savior or the magical power of yogic techniques. It is disappointing to realize that we have to give up our expectations rather than build on the basis of our preconceptions. We must allow ourselves to be disappointed, which means the surrendering of me-ness, my achievement. We would like to watch ourselves attain enlightenment, watch our disciples celebrating, worshiping, throwing flowers at us, with miracles and earthquakes occurring and gods and angels singing and so forth. This never happens. The attainment of enlightenment from ego’s point of view is extreme death, the death of self, the death of me and mine, the death of the watcher. It is the ultimate and final disappointment. Treading the spiritual path is painful. It is a constant unmasking, peeling off of layer after layer of masks. It involves insult after insult.

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Yoga is good for the soul!

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Shadow work...do not underestimate its importance. Once you see it, you can see in other people who has done it and who has not. Most of world and life problems are caused by a lack of awareness of this. Do you have a boss or friend who is undermining or subtly attacking you? It's a shadow reaction, they are projecting on to you and attempting to steal your energy. Do you keep receiving bad energy and don't know where it is coming from? Check what energy you have given out. These are two examples, one which is your responsibility and the other where it is not your fault. Learn to discern the difference and don't BS yourself about it if it is your fault. It is a learning process which requires honesty and an open heart, do the work and see the benefits multiply. But be aware that having an open heart attracts others to attack you whose heart and mind are still closed. BE MORE PANDA



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