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Reuters reported there's no quatrains in Nostradamus' writings about a Covid19 pandemic in the year 2020, but there were books about this prediction you can find online mentioned this "In the twin year, a plague from the Orient-China, the queen named Corona". Nostradamus was also thought to predicted "the return of Arabs from North Africa in South France, this time to stay forever"- a reference to North Africans from former French colonies Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia settled in metropolitan France after the countries' independence wars. And he predicted women becoming similar to men (and I guess vice versa) both supposedly in the late 20th-early 21st century period, about 50 years from 1970-2020. Remarkably accurate, but there was no evidence of Nostradamus wrote anything about the current global Covid19 pandemic, esp. his constant references to northern Italy (Lombardy) not far from his home region Provence in France, where he used Occitan (Provencal dialect) languages in his writings.
I think we humans look for exactitude to lend credibility to a claim or what's been said. What Nostradamus wrote was many moons ago, so his expression was influenced by his times, so we have to be mindful of that.

Btw, in The Bhagavad Gita, without making such dire prophecies for the whole mankind, and in keeping with Sanatana Dharma (eternal order or duty), it is said to the effect (since I do not have the book in front of me right now), which is all about making mankind aware of the consequences of one's actions (Karma) and hence very logical to make one understand (instead of rigidit instructions or commands): if man loses his way and indulges in destroying other sentient beings, he will bring upon himself great maladies and suffering. (when I look at covid and sars, etc, this is exactly what has been happening

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The majority of Nostradamus’ quatrains were penned in his 1555 Magnum Opus Les Propheties.
In one of his quatrains, the 16th-century prophet warned of a plague striking a number of cities in Italy.
Century III, Quatrain 75 reads: “Pau, Verona, Vicenza, Saragossa,
“From distant swords lands wet with blood:
“Very great plague will come with the great shell,
“Relief near, and the remedies very far.”


I visited Lucca twice, once off a ship tour and the other a land-tour some years later. I found out you can never really "go back" in that your experiences will not be the same. Porbably the weather is the biggest factor.



Its very near driving distance about 15 minutes to the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Lucca is a unique fortress -walled Medieval town which still looks like the remnants of yester years. The last time I went there, was not as exciting as the first time because it was Christmas holiday extreme cold, and there was a huge Santa Sleigh with Santa live going down the street. That was cool! The first time we went was spring time and there were singing minstrels in the street and town square. I think it was Jazz they played however.


There are very nice little stores one can shop in - and even get a "real" hot chocolate (in the winter) - with real dark chocolate, quite thick, quite hot and it really warms you. The town square has a Museum created from opera singer Puccini's house and a huge statute in the square dedicated to their town's modern day hero.


The streets are narrow - and once wandering off, is harder to find your group again as sounds tend to deaden there.


NOW I'm curious just how little Lucca fared during that terrible virus that plagued so many Italians.


For those wondering what it might look like, here are a few of my photos -


Vehicles are not driven other then bicycles in Lucca - people park their cycles outside the city walls:



The entrance, (may be others, but we went in here): ....ancient door





Their favorite past resident: Puccini -




Santa in the winter time: (we drove up from the Amalfi Coast - to Florence and here)




a bottle of water is more expensive then a glass of wine:


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Anti-CCP Alternative media from Taiwan: NTD, The Epoch Times, China in Focus and China Uncensored, are asking questions the WHO is also asking: How many actual infection cases and deaths occurred in China? An estimated 50,000 died out of 300,000 in Wuhan and a million deaths out of 5.0 million in China were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, considering the heavy population density in the world's most populous nation. However, the Chinese government case numbers stands at 85,000 cases and 5,000-some deaths. It's understood the lack of social distancing but a whole lot of wearing masks is common in China and East Asia, which is the best way to prevent viral transmission? I recommend both, but the USA only started to take up wearing masks in public places in April based on CDC recommendations, a month after we were informed and alerted about a Covid-19 pandemic in our country.
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Leomoon, that's a different quatrain Nostradamus wrote up. The hardest hit in the Covid-19 pandemic was Northern Italy were Bergamo, Brescia, Milano and Vo in addition to mentioned cities in that quatrain. While Italy partially eased its lockdown and restrictions, the most infected place in Italy which was under an earlier lockdown from Feb 22-May 3 (Codogno and Lodi) shows locals are weary of a second wave in their community and again, it could spread all over Italy, Europe and the world. Stay safe, everyone...the USA could learn from Italy and China on handling a tough time they dealt with first or earlier in Jan and Feb. - to virtually disappear in Mar. and Apr. by the lockdown's effect on viral transmission.
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This could mean that although the epidemic subsides in May 2020, there could be a second and third wave of COVID-19, or some other event possibly that binds us apart,
The good news is that if we survive, the next nodal bind only occurs in 2036!



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The asteroid Apophis could strike the earth in middle of 2036, the most likely place of collusion is off the coast of California (my home state), and the 1-5% chance of a near-approach with earth closer than our moon (normally, 250k miles away) and artificial satellites is a concern for the next decade. Apophis will approach the earth in a similarly close position in April 13, 2029 which isn't under any nodal binds, we know when's the most possible time it could collide with the earth when you're going by astrology. The lunar nodes then are in Leo (true)/Aquarius with the planet Saturn in 2 months in Leo and Mars in Leo in the later half of the nodal bind (52 days from May 20-21 to July 11-12, 2036), although the sun is in Gemini and Cancer in the later half. And the moon is in Leo on May 30 and June 26. However, late March 2036 is Apophis' closest approach to the earth before the nodal binds occur when the sun is in Aries.
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I see this pandemic as evidence of the United States as the foremost world-power.

We unfortunately, as a nation, elected what amounts to a political virus infecting our Constitutional Democratic-Republic. And now, there's a biological virus infecting the entire world.

This isn't a mere coincidence, it's a bona fide correlation.
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I predict, once we get rid of this political virus, the world will be able to rid itself of this biological virus.
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Red Korean Ginseng is the reason South Korea has been so successful in limiting the spread and deaths from the Covid-19 epidemic.

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Red Korean Ginseng is the reason South Korea has been so successful in limiting the spread and deaths from the Covid-19 epidemic.
Whatcha got on ginseng?

The success of Taiwan, Hong Kong, S Korea and Japan (no particular order because they all are different in key respects) seems to defy prevailing logics.

The political virus, it seems to easy to pretend Trump is the cause. He is like what you would call a classic symptom, like coughing blood from the lungs is a symptom of TB.

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The success of Taiwan, Hong Kong, S Korea and Japan (no particular order because they all are different in key respects) seems to defy prevailing logics.

The political virus, it seems to easy to pretend Trump is the cause. He is like what you would call a classic symptom, like coughing blood from the lungs is a symptom of TB.

Your last paragraph made me think of this blog's post again:


https://www.julienaklei.com/2018/06/...zWLi19ID8G361c

  • Although Neptune won’t officially enter Aries until 2025, we should start feeling the effects trickle in earlier. In a sense, each sign is just a natural response to the excesses of the sign that came before it. The more people in society play a victimized Piscean role, floating through an inner world of pain, the more others are compelled to seek something brisk and capable. Perhaps Donald Trump is the first piece of the Aries forces that are to come. If so, resistance to him is futile, because he represents a course correction which is as necessary as it is inevitable.
  • Wherever Neptune goes, it reawakens forgotten values, but also tends to take ideas to ridiculous extremes. Neptune in Aries is certain to bring us lots of crazy fads and notions just as Neptune in Pisces did. I only hope it does not bring danger. It is no comfort that the last time Neptune entered Aries was the start of the Civil War.
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Leomoon, that's a different quatrain Nostradamus wrote up. The hardest hit in the Covid-19 pandemic was Northern Italy were Bergamo, Brescia, Milano and Vo in addition to mentioned cities in that quatrain. While Italy partially eased its lockdown and restrictions, the most infected place in Italy which was under an earlier lockdown from Feb 22-May 3 (Codogno and Lodi) shows locals are weary of a second wave in their community and again, it could spread all over Italy, Europe and the world. Stay safe, everyone...the USA could learn from Italy and China on handling a tough time they dealt with first or earlier in Jan and Feb. - to virtually disappear in Mar. and Apr. by the lockdown's effect on viral transmission.

I think I posted the wrong quantrain - But the rest of it doesn't seem to fit on line 3 - (war, famine and drought) along with plague.....
Actually when I checked my pdf of his complete quantrains, it seems he said a LOT about Lucca & Pisa. Makes sense, I suppose, a neighboring country to France 296 miles of land, mostly the Alps I think from my one travel to see the Black Madonna some of the ranges of the French Alps are entirely in France, others, such as the Mont Blanc massif, are shared with Switzerland and Italy https://www.viator.com/tours/Barcelo...-2140JTEBA07PM





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In Lucca it will come to rain blood and milk,
Shortly before a change of praetor:
Great plague and war, famine and drought will be made visible
Far away where their prince and rector will die.

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The success of Taiwan, Hong Kong, S Korea and Japan (no particular order because they all are different in key respects) seems to defy prevailing logics.

The political virus, it seems to easy to pretend Trump is the cause. He is like what you would call a classic symptom, like coughing blood from the lungs is a symptom of TB.
Ginseng has been widely used, in Korea especially, for many centuries, more by men than women. And there's a much higher % of women compared to men in S.Korea catching the virus than in other countries. The elderly have been using ginseng as an overall tonic their entire lives.

I had thought it was only for physical energy and male potency. Turns out, it's a genuine immune system booster which is particularly effective against flu viruses, according to many scientific studies.
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Ginger and garlic are also very good for protecting against viral infections. If they are consumed raw, it's even better.
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Ginseng has been widely used, in Korea especially, for many centuries, more by men than women. And there's a much higher % of women compared to men in S.Korea catching the virus than in other countries. The elderly have been using ginseng as an overall tonic their entire lives.

I had thought it was only for physical energy and male potency. Turns out, it's a genuine immune system booster which is particularly effective against flu viruses, according to many scientific studies.





This is the official (now) Cayce homeopathic retailer although I go elsewhere except for a few things I can't get otherwise then from him. He charges obviously a premium, due to being authorized by the A.R.E. to use the EC name in his brands. Some things I have no choice like the mixtures (almost all have Gingsing in them too) called #236, #545 & #636, all tonics good for issue with digestion. etc. Some will be advertised on Amazon too. Often with shipping you pay the same...if you can get them.
I use to get them all from a place in Va.Beach called "Heritage" which is still around, BUT, sold their trade name & closed the store. They aren't supposed to be licensed anymore for the Cayce brands. They were cheaper. Some stuff is still around however.


https://www.baar.com/digestive-aids

https://www.baar.com/wild-american-g...-fluid-extract



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Cayce Health Care Philosophy: Edgar Cayce preferred American Ginseng. He called American Ginseng "the essence of the flow of the vitality within the system itself. It is an electrifying of the vital forces themselves.". The main active ingredients of Ginseng...


Seems this one is discontinued, but like I said Cayce's remedies often included American Gingseng - just check the ingredients on the bottles -
Wild American Ginseng, Fluid Extract
Panax quinquefolius
  • Wild American Ginseng
  • Herbal Adaptogenic
  • Stimulates the Vital Forces of the Body
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American Ginseng has been traditionally used by the American Indians as a demulcent, general tonic, as a botanical restorative for the weak and wounded and to help the mind. American Ginseng is now valued for its "adaptogenic" (tending to bring the body to normal) properties. Research suggests it may increase mental efficiency and physical performance, aid in adapting to high or low temperatures and stress.*
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Edgar Cayce preferred American Ginseng. He called American Ginseng "the essence of the flow of the vitality within the system itself. It is an electrifying of the vital forces themselves."
The main active ingredients of Ginseng (American and Korean) are the more than 20 saponin triterpenoid glycosides called "ginsenosides". A major difference between American and Korean Ginseng is that the American Ginseng is rich in the Rb1 group of ginsenosides, which have a more sedative and metabolic effect on the central nervous system. American Ginseng (Rb1 ginsenosides) also increases stamina, learning ability, and has been used for stress, fatigue characterized by insomnia, to enhance immune functions, poor appetite, nervousness and restlessness.
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In geriatric use, Ginseng is being researched for its benefits in supporting healthy mental functions. Ginseng may help by directly affecting the adrenal-pituitary axis, the result of which is manifested by an increased resistance to the effects of stress. This herb also supports healthy mental function through its benefits to circulation. Animal studies have clearly demonstrated Ginseng's ability to help the learning process.

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I have a few planets retrograde, including Merc, and have been trying to get a handle on how the "Retrograde-state" compares to that of Direct. When looking at the manifestations of the permanently, constant, Retrograde-state of the sidereal Ages through the millennia, I noticed that they aren't as starkly obvious as those of the Direct-motion tropical Ages.

Now I see that the word "Direct" is the key to understanding the term "Retrograde" as meaning the opposite term, "Indirect". Instead of going directly from A to B using the shortest, most direct route possible, Retro is about meandering, and using a series of approximations prior to reaching the most correct version of the desired goal.

So, rx Saturn is more subtle than frontal-assault Saturn direct, but still the same old Grim Reaper.
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Looks like ginseng has been shown to improve oxygen utilization and has been useful in “circulatory disorders” (possibly why men like taking it?).. Cool.

Leomoon, I truly hope you’re not right about Trump being a harbinger of Neptune entering Aries in a few years, because that’s scary as anything else, as the strong man is such a potent political illusion.
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Looks like ginseng has been shown to improve oxygen utilization and has been useful in “circulatory disorders” (possibly why men like taking it?).. Cool.

Leomoon, I truly hope you’re not right about Trump being a harbinger of Neptune entering Aries in a few years, because that’s scary as anything else, as the strong man is such a potent political illusion.
I think it's the reverse, actually. Trump came in with Saturn riding the Fire-sign energy of Sagittarius, not Aries. Neptune is basically sitting this one out, and is still not to the Aries cusp of Pisces.

Neptune was Saturn's designated assault-victim for the Spanish Flu, which had its origin correlating to the Saturn/Neptune conjunction in the Summer of 1917 in tropical Leo. In Leo, the attack was more on strong young men of fighting Age.

Now, Saturn is up against a tougher opponent, Pluto, with their conjunction in Capricorn. That puts the elderly more at risk.

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The elderly (and young overweight) are at a different kind of risk than everyone else. The latter will suffer from the high-screen-time, local-economy-destroying, isolating, child-catching contact-tracing police state that crushes dissent. If the PATRIOT act is any indication, those powers will never be revoked.
Saturn was known as the devourer of children. The young are the harbingers of the Aquarian Age, which is when Saturn's hegemony will finally end. The "hippies" were the first wave of Aquarian Age harbingers, and were severely oppressed by the Draft of the Vietnam War era.

I see Dylan's prophetic song, "The Times, They Are A-Changin", including the line "Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command/ Your old road is rapidly agein....", as an accurate forecast of the future.
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Saturn was known as the devourer of children. The young are the harbingers of the Aquarian Age, which is when Saturn's hegemony will finally end. The "hippies" were the first wave of Aquarian Age harbingers, and were severely oppressed by the Draft of the Vietnam War era.

I see Dylan's prophetic song, "The Times, They Are A-Changin", including the line "Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command/ Your old road is rapidly agein....", as an accurate forecast of the future.
What is the astrological explanation for the plunge into poverty for so many globally? I see Jupiter in Capricorn has been “corporate bailouts, poverty for the rest” twice in a row now.
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What is the astrological explanation for the plunge into poverty for so many globally? I see Jupiter in Capricorn has been “corporate bailouts, poverty for the rest” twice in a row now.
I'm rating this entire Jupiter Capricorn-Year a complete disaster.
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Looks like ginseng has been shown to improve oxygen utilization and has been useful in “circulatory disorders” (possibly why men like taking it?).. Cool.

Leomoon, I truly hope you’re not right about Trump being a harbinger of Neptune entering Aries in a few years, because that’s scary as anything else, as the strong man is such a potent political illusion.

Passiflora: I hope not - it was Julien's Blog that suggested this, her quote. not me.



And yes, Jupiter in Capricorn ***** earthworms! (Jupiter in that sign in the sign of its FALL)
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Saturn was known as the devourer of children. The young are the harbingers of the Aquarian Age, which is when Saturn's hegemony will finally end. The "hippies" were the first wave of Aquarian Age harbingers, and were severely oppressed by the Draft of the Vietnam War era.

I see Dylan's prophetic song, "The Times, They Are A-Changin", including the line "Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command/ Your old road is rapidly agein....", as an accurate forecast of the future.

Make sure you don't have your rainbow Pisces glasses on David
I thought it was LILITH who was the devour er of babies?

Isn't Saturn "Father Time" and often just overly responsible except when it comes to trump? His Saturn quincunx the Moon and square his Jupiter in Libra. No wonder the imbalances so easily seen


I often think we should add the BML to see chaos and disorder - and in general the Republican GOP who is in charge now.


https://9thhouseastrology.wordpress.com/tag/lilith/


Speaking of babies and little children, there are thus far known to be at least 100 who have the (newly discovered) Covid 19 strain that affects them similarly to Kawasaki disease and Toxic Shock Syndrome. At least 5 have died. ....They are still studying it and gathering info as we speak.
In NYC the largest group - but also in California, Washington State and elsewhere in this country and even globally.







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Of course, a woman archetype who wasn’t controllable by men had to be character assassinated with, ‘she eats babies.’ *eye roll*

I thoroughly enjoyed that Lilith article though, especially the part that said, ‘The need to exercise freewill is stronger than the need to be included.’ I relate to it a lot and have an angular Lilith, although it could be the Uranian in me that relates to it.
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I have a few planets retrograde, including Merc, and have been trying to get a handle on how the "Retrograde-state" compares to that of Direct. When looking at the manifestations of the permanently, constant, Retrograde-state of the sidereal Ages through the millennia, I noticed that they aren't as starkly obvious as those of the Direct-motion tropical Ages.

Now I see that the word "Direct" is the key to understanding the term "Retrograde" as meaning the opposite term, "Indirect". Instead of going directly from A to B using the shortest, most direct route possible, Retro is about meandering, and using a series of approximations prior to reaching the most correct version of the desired goal.

So, rx Saturn is more subtle than frontal-assault Saturn direct, but still the same old Grim Reaper.



I have a few older pamphlet books by Helen Adams Garrett that I haven't yet sold and retained. One is called "More About Retrogrades"....and she maintains a German astrology position of the Uranian School, that Retros in our natal charts (at least), are indicative of being markers of where we need to "repeat" past life experiences we didn't hone OR we are attempting in this lifetime to make more perfect.


See it here:



http://www.astroamerica.com/retro.html
and:


https://www.ebay.com/i/380583102074?chn=ps



It likely doesn't come easy either. - but can give us clues as to (the aspects,etc) what/how and in what manner we might attempt working on the energies.
From (vague recollection) Mercury rx, tends to go to the past too much and can get stuck reminiscing this way.



As I look at her book again and reacquaint myself, I might add a few tidbits for consideration.


Mercury: Approx. every 4th month usually 3 times per year for 20-24 days Mercury will retrograde. Every 6th yr. the retro station is made 4 times.
I have: Saturn rx, Uranus rx & Pluto rx and "issues" will all 3


She mentioned on pg. 7, "John McCormick in "The Book on Retrogrades" dealt primarily in the #s of them in a natal chart - saying certain expressions of energy seem to apply to each given number of planets rx.



He suggested the following in that book:


None: - Expend enormous physical effort ( *with all Direct planets)
Two : - Depends on Public sentiment
Three: Determined to excel
Four: Seeks expression in private
Five: Solitary occupation.



(I have 3 of them) My middle daughter has 2 RETROs (Venus in AQ, and her Sun ruler Capricorn's Saturn in Fall 0 Cancer), She always gets the shaft in her few relationships, ALWAYS with deadbeats she is attracted to what she considered to be "victims in life" I told her with the last one, "Jen, you brought home one of your clients"from her social work she does; and she laughed, admitted to me it was true. He stayed for 15 years, was just there as a gigilo I'd say (and my husband agrees)...and finally got (as his own brother once said that about him ) half the house, quite literally! Otherwise, she's extremely bright.

She is currently looking at another "victim of society" to help....We are currently (partially) estranged, but she sent me a card today.

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