Do you tend to grow into your Ascendant throughout your life?

Just something that I've been wondering.
In my younger years I was nearly the stereotypical Pisces in every way.

Irresponsible,weakling,physically frail (actually people would tell me I'm blessed with above average physical strength for a "nerdy waste" but I was nowhere close to athletic), lazy, messy and disorganized, and an Escapist with lots of bad habits.

I did have some Scorpio traits in my younger years like vengeful personality (to the point I would hold a grudge for years over one mere comment) and ability to accomplish tasks very quickly with excellency if it was related to my Escapist tendencies (say rewatching a TV Show I really loved such as Saint Seiya and Rose of Versailles a 2nd time or beating a game I was seriously addicted to ATM) as well as being incredibly perverse (I was a porno addict in my teens),hot-tempered, and can be nasty and violent. But overall a Pisces personality.

I won't got into much of the details because it embarrasses me as hell and I feel a lot of REMORSE and GUILT for a lot of the self-centered actions I did while in FANTASY LAND.

However starting mid 2012 I started becoming more and more Scorpionic in personality. Still have to struggle with Piscean tendencies, but I notice things I was too lazy or weak-willed to do or finish I am now managed to have completed. I now am developing more and more healthy habits and already I am approaching 7 MPH in Runnign speed where as back in Jan 2012 I was struggling to do even 4 MPH.

While I'm still a messy person I'm gradually pushing myself up to become more and more organized. I'm practically becoming more and more Disciplined,Responsible, and Hard-Working as well as more Athletic, which are all traits associated with the stereotypical Scorpio.

Its just so amazing and yet hilariously nonsense that I'm rapidly doing things like beating games I always gave up years ago within as short a time as a few days and finishing books I could never get past the first page in the past within a week. That

I've practically have pushed myself to the point I could do things I was never able to do physically such as run 1 mile at about 6 MPH and being able to do Sit-Ups.

WOW I never thought I could have done such stuff back in high school and I'm flabbergasted at all I've done since the past 5 months, and am extremely excited at the thought of what I'll accomplish in the upcoming season and what person I'll become once I've completed my Transformation.

Anyone here noticed that they have practically have been becoming more and more like their ascendant?

My mom is so much like this. In her younger years she had that Capricorn tendency to try to please others and was a "nice" girl. However after events in her life, she became more and more aggressive as well as argumentative. She can be quite eccentric at times to the point of nonsense.

I just learned weeks ago she had an Aquarius Rising and when I researched that Ascendant, it matches my mom's current personality especially towards people who are neither friend nor family spot on :O!!!!

I have a friend from another site who's an Aries with a Cancer Ascendant. When he was young he was quite the Military type. He joined the army after graduating and went to Vietnam. After going home, as a result of suffering from PTSD..... Let's just say he was constantly going into fights and did stuff that could get im into trouble with the law (I'm not revealing more than that). From what I know of him, he's quite Cancerian now. He's frugal and lives simple and he does have that family vibe and love for family traditions Cancers are known for as well as a strong fondness for the past.

He's no longer as aggressive as he once was and he's pretty much mellowed down into the seemingly nice old man.

I got a Capricorn friend from another site and not only did she face hardships the stereotypical Capricorn typically suffers through for being so mature and serious in her childhood, she's still quite cold and distant and overrall Capricornish. She is I think 24 years old and has a Capricorn Ascendant hence making her a double Capricorn.

What do you all think?Is this true for you?

I'm 100% sure it will be true for me (and already I'm more Scorpio than I am Pisces)!

Yes I totally agree with this!! I have actually been thinking that a lot lately, that I am becoming more and more like my Aries ascendant. But I put it down to coming out of my shell a lot more as I get older. Afterall, your ascendant is what the world sees of you and the more open you are to the world the more your ascendant is going to shine through. Also look out for planets transiting your Ascendant or your Ascendant's ruling planet because they will 'activate' it.

No, I don't think so.

But different parts of the chart become active during life, which creates changes. Changes all the time. Check your dasha timetables.

Look to progressions too! Progressed ASC and Sun etc.

Pisces Adonis said:

....In my younger years I was nearly the stereotypical Pisces in every way.

Irresponsible,weakling,physically frail (actually people would tell me I'm blessed with above average physical strength for a "nerdy waste" but I was nowhere close to athletic), lazy, messy and disorganized, and an Escapist with lots of bad habits.....!

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Thanks for your pm Pisces Adonis, however each astrologer would have their own ideas on this subject and in any event, not all Pisces ascendants are identical and not all Pisces ascendants are as you have described yourself rather harshly as.

That's because the sign and house location of Jupiter - whose natural home is Pisces - are important. Also important are the sign and house location of Venus whose Exalted Home is Pisces

I don't know I feel less and less like a Libra ASC. Its maybe because my progressed ASc is now at very late Libra degree.

Actually the total opposite is happening to me. Every year, I feel less and less of a Virgo (ASC) and more of a Sagittarius (SUN).
Personally, I've always believed that we feel more like our Ascendants when we are young but as we get older we get more in touch with our inner self, the Sun Sign.

Alitta the Archer said:

Actually the total opposite is happening to me. Every year, I feel less and less of a Virgo (ASC) and more of a Sagittarius (SUN).
Personally, I've always believed that we feel more like our Ascendants when we are young but as we get older we get more in touch with our inner self, the Sun Sign.

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Agree. And it also depend on the rest of our chart for example if your ASC is in Cancer and you have a lot of personal planets in this sign you never 'grow out' of it.

As an Aquarian Sun and Saggi Asc, the last years i feel more my progressed Ascendant which is Capricorn.

First, you are being really hard on Pisceans, not to mention completely glossing over the negative side of Scorpio (which, though stereotypes are rarely the full truth, is not often referred to as the healthy, disciplined, organized, or athletic sign; while it can carry these traits most people go right to the description of intense, deep, possibly intimidating, etc). It is true that Pisces can be many of the things you attribute to it (and yourself) but you should also acknowledge the inherent traits of empathy and creativity associated with your natal sign. While Aries can have a temper, they are also creatures who like having a flock despite their independent natures, and Cancers are also known for having mood-swings; though Capricorns are known for being staid and reliable, it is also true that once they have achieved their goals, later in life they often let loose a bit and seem to make up for some of the fun they missed out on. All signs have good and bad, as well as quirks that don't always show up the same way.
As for your ASC question, I usually interpret the ASC as one's childhood experiences, to a point, and also with one's first impressions and reactions (both those one makes and one gives). I always think of it as a lens your Sun shines through, if only initially, coloring the impressions you get from people and situations and also the way you are viewed by others.
Using myself as an example, my childhood was a completely typical one for an Aries rising, complete with military father, frequent moves, and a sense that I needed to learn to manage on my own. I have a definite tendency to want to rush into things and to be a bit bossy, though as a Virgo I can usually either reign the impulse in or make the necessary follow-up plans. In a sense I've grown into my ASC, because as I've gotten older I've been able to embrace it more as I've escaped my extremely-Virgo mother's influence, but I attribute that to current events rather than a shift in my personality.
The recent changes could be a lot of things, not the least of which are all the interesting planetary transits that have occurred in relation to Scorpio in the last year. Saturn just moved into Scorpio, for example; the first house placement of this planet in your chart could lead to a period of changing identity when you begin to question, and learn, who you are. If you have any natal planets aspecting Saturn, there could be even more going on for you. I'd take a look at the whole natal chart and current transits before deciding it's just your ASC in play.

If this is true, then I would more likely be the same forever - Libra Sun, Libra Asc

To be honest, I recently read the opposite; that the ascendant is strongest before about the age of 30 generally as the automatic reaction to situations is more obvious to the individual and at this age and onwards, they are more likely to be comfortable in their own skin, may then choose to react or approach things differently.

Either way, there are multiple modifying conditions to the ascendant, such as the strength and condition of the Sun, which may in fact dominate the ascendant.

LeoCassandra said:

Agree. And it also depend on the rest of our chart for example if your ASC is in Cancer and you have a lot of personal planets in this sign you never 'grow out' of it.

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In addition to being a Scorpio Riser, I also have Pluto as my Rising Planet.

To add I just learned my precise birth time and I learned my Scorpio Asc conjuncts my Pluto in Scorpio and my Asc squares my Saturn in Aquarius.

In addition my Pluto is heavily aspected.

byjove said:

To be honest, I recently read the opposite; that the ascendant is strongest before about the age of 30 generally as the automatic reaction to situations is more obvious to the individual and at this age and onwards, they are more likely to be comfortable in their own skin, may then choose to react or approach things differently.

Either way, there are multiple modifying conditions to the ascendant, such as the strength and condition of the Sun, which may in fact dominate the ascendant.

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With Saturn in Scorpio I think that may play a role into why I'm growing into a Scorpio .

IamLibra said:

If this is true, then I would more likely be the same forever - Libra Sun, Libra Asc

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Not just in this life-according to Esoteric Astrology, your current Sun Sign becomes your Moon Sign in next life and your current Rising Sign becomes your Sun Sign in your next life. So you'll be reborn as a Double Libra agaihn!!!

I'll be reborn as a Scorpio with a Moon in Pisces

Actually your ASC progresses as you move through life. For example. I was born with an Air sign asc. Communication was my most vital link with the outside world, but as it progressed into water it introduced a need to be responsive to my environment too. I was pushed to learn to accept the emotional cues in my impact on others and their impact on me.

And then my progressed water ASC progressed into Fire. My tendency to respond to the environment in an emotional manner translated into my need to be the initiator of action rather than just be responsive to it. I was more and more interested in being seen for ME, and not just responding sensitively to others .

In a very short time my fire ASC will be progressing into Earth for the probably remainder of most of my life. As that happens I will be adding an element of circumspection and practicality, and in some ways going back to recognizing cue from the solid portions of my environment but without having to respond emotionally to it.

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I wonder what for kind of people with Taurus (2degrees) Sun sign are throughout life.
Because I'm someone who is in search of identity, which is maybe more understandable when I say that I have North Node in Aries, and above that: It's conjunct Sun. So I will need to accomplish my identity.
My ASC sign is Leo (trine Sun and North Node!), so totally something different than Taurus, but still in trine to my Sun sign.
Above this all: my progressed Sun is about to change to Gemini and pr ASC is Virgo ... So confusing!
but still: I feel more affinity with the two Mercury signs in progression. I'm actually not that talkative, but I'm a writer.
So I agree with Zarathu and Gen6k whentalking about progressions..

Zarathu said:

Actually your ASC progresses as you move through life. For example. I was born with an Air sign asc. Communication was my most vital link with the outside world, but as it progressed into water it introduced a need to be responsive to my environment too. I was pushed to learn to accept the emotional cues in my impact on others and their impact on me.

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Not to derail the thread too much, but on that note of progressions.. would you say the progression of the Sun into the next sign is felt more strongly in the personality then the Ascendant into the next sign? I suppose this is more of a subjective feeling as others would continue to see your ascendant..

I was just curious because i've found little information on sun progressions, and mine has moved into Leo 3" from Cancer. My Ascendant is almost nearing the edge of Gemini on its way to Cancer.

lazarusx said:

Not to derail the thread too much, but on that note of progressions.. would you say the progression of the Sun into the next sign is felt more strongly in the personality then the Ascendant into the next sign? I suppose this is more of a subjective feeling as others would continue to see your ascendant..

I was just curious because i've found little information on sun progressions, and mine has moved into Leo 3" from Cancer. My Ascendant is almost nearing the edge of Gemini on its way to Cancer.

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they both have a distinct effect.

the secondary progressions/solar arc have about a 30% influence.

the midpoint (composite) between the progression and natal is also a certain canon.
well the middlepoint brings it back, so the prog might not be showing as much if the natal is early until 3rd decan.

the progression is the realization of settling down from Gemini to Cancer. Being able to go straight finally and build a base.

from Cancer to Leo the progression is about finding confidence through the self finally. being at a good point where one found themselves more. It deals with a certain amount of enthusiasm or "fire energy hidden underneath"

one has to go through the development, and it is a changing point from introversion to extroverted-feelings.

there is also a faster-time progression called tertiary progressions.

The ruler shifts have some influence on the planets already in the natal.

if for example the Moon is in Virgo and the Sun is now in gemini its a square reception. giving the person anxiety or ambivalence.

when the progressed sun then moves in to cancer the reception to the moon would then be a sextile reception giving the person more self-containment. more rest is in the reception. the ruler of cancer is also the moon latching on more to the moons energies. becoming lunar and self-contained. while the virgo moon becomes more pronounced.

It depends on where the problem is coming from. if it is a self-esteem issue, or if it is alternate desires at play. if the reception is bad or if its contacting chiron.

It becomes more significant with aspects. Aspects to jupiter and such during the shift can lead to more pronounced situation. Usually the starting and ending degrees in progression are crises.