Will I be able to get to the Septic tank lid and open it?

Boy oh boy talk about pluto transiting your 4th!

I have septic tank problems that started the day I listed my house for sale.

Where the tank is on the original plans places it directly under a slab of concrete my dad put down for a jacuzzi. But my Dad, now deceased, was a general contractor and I highly doubt he would've allowed there to be no way to get to the tank to empty it which is 8 feet deep btw . But the lid should be less than a foot from the surface.

so I meditated asking my dad where it is. In a dream my dad showed me the location , which is now covered by roots from some very large trees.

Several people have dug around this area but not exactly there.

I used diving rods to locate the exact spot which appears to be right where it was in my dream!

So far the septic guy wants to bring in an excavator to dig a hole big enough, 8 ft down mind you, for a person to be in to create a new hole and add a new pipe with tank lid. This plan will cost thousands, is not foolproof and will create much destruction to the mature landscaping.

he asked that a tree specialist be called in first to see if the tree thats there can be saved. The tree guy is going to try and unearth the existing lid which is hopefully in that spot. if it is there will be minimal destruction.

My question is designed to find out where exactly the lid is and if its feasible to use it.

here is the Data:
Will I be able to get to the Septic tank lid and open it?
June 4th 2013 10:13 am coral gables, florida

heres the chart:

the things that struck me the most in this chart were pluto and saturn

Pluto ruling sewers and sewage in the 6thand in Capricorn and saturn ruling blockage and difficulties in the 4th but sextile pluto and opposing 29degree moon

I took this to mean that at one time the tank lid was functional and reachable but is now obstructed however if we persevere in trying , we can un earth the lid and use it after the moon moves into the next sign (which it now is)

Am I right in my interpretation ? Comments? Assistance?


thanks in advance for your help!

in addition just realized transiting uranus is opposed my natal sun in the 4th m
SURPISE!!!

There is no Ptolemaic aspect between the ruler of the ASC and the ruler of the house of the question, and Moon is void of course.

The answer is NO.

I'd run a line with a locating device in it from your current OUT line to find where the septic tank is. Or flush a GPS or radio device Unit down the tank and use a triangulator to locate the tank. When you locate the tank then you know that the lid is right in the center of the tank.

Hi zaranthu

they already did that and cannot find the lid. there were notes in the plans for the lid to be added. After hurricane Andrew about 20 years ago, my father added on to the house putting a concrete slab directly on top of the tank location ,also the tank is very deeply buried at least 8 ft down.

My Dad was a general contractor . I know he would not have placed the slab wherehe did without a way to get to it.

I think the void of course situation is no one coming back when they said they would.

The Arborist has now promised me for 4 days that he was coming and hasnt . typical Miami too.

Perhaps I need to revisit this question in a different way?

the answer "no" ***** cause this really needs to be remedied I just dont want to destroy whole front of the house to do so.

rubyelixir said:

Perhaps I need to revisit this question in a different way?

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Asking the question again because you didn't like the answer is not viable Horary technique.

Use a more powerful and more water tight radio unit. The reality is that your house is not sellable without a valid septic system. Having sold my house, and having some fear about the septic system(checked out A-OK) since it was 25 years old, I fully understand your dilemma. You may need to spring for new landscaping and digging things up. I had to do that when the pump died and the plumber had to dig down 6 feet to the connection to the house.

Hi,

There is no aspect between Ven (home) and the Sun/Moon, so I don't think you will. However, I do think there will be some positive turn in the situation in about 4 days/ weeks, as the Moon changes signs and enters into its sign of exaltation, Taurus.

AQ7

aquarius7000 said:

Hi,

There is no aspect between Ven (home) and the Sun/Moon, so I don't think you will. However, I do think there will be some positive turn in the situation in about 4 days/ weeks, as the Moon changes signs and enters into its sign of exaltation, Taurus.

AQ7

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Of course, as you know AQ7, that is no longer horary; you've moved into regular astrology.

Hi,

Zarathu said:

Of course, as you know AQ7, that is no longer horary; you've moved into regular astrology.

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Please be kind enough to enlighten, which part of my delineation makes you say that?

Btw, Rubyelixir, I misread the degree on the Moon, so I correct myself on the timing bit. Not 4, but 1 week/month.

AQ7

Hello and Thank you for all your replies,

I believe that the NO answer is valid because it was kind of non specific . I didn't ask who or when. And this is a problem that will have to be remedied regardless. Yes I believe it will be somewhat difficult. I think that the correct interpretation of saturn is blockage, delays and difficulties. So to the ease of finding the traffic lid that already exists is not a possibility. The "No" answer is correct.
However, as to the waiting a week, well YES!!!! The good news is the original guy who inspected the tree and was willing to take the path of least amount of damage has not been able to come back for 5 days now. I got another Arborist to come. At first he proposed a $6500 plan which involved taking out the Gumbo Limbo tree completely and the privacy wall in front. It will be another $2500 for the septic tank guys to install a new Traffic Lid. But I pressed him further , showing him the section where I believe the existing Traffic Lid to be. I asked what if we just took out this section of roots, would it destroy the tree/do we really have to destroy the tree? After revisiting the site again, the new Arborist, Aaron, agreed that we could try to simply remove the roots from this one area, remove a palm tree and take out a portion of the privacy wall for $500 first. Its worth a try.

He can't get to it until Wednesday, as he machine broke down and the parts arent expected until tuesday. If this plan works, it will cost only $500 to unearth (hopefully) the existing tank lid, still keep the giant tree and emptying the septic tank through this lid without digging and having to create a new opening to the tank will only cost $350!!!!! This option is only $850 compared to about $10,000!!!!! (I would also need to replace my driveway and landscaping because the septic tank guy wants to bring in a back hoe)

I have already spent $400 on plumbing . My downstairs wood floors need to be replaced. But if this option works and the Traffic Lid is there it will be a TON less money and damage.

I feel like I need to rephrase the question more specifically. Perhaps something like

"Will the new plan with Aaron in getting to the septic tank traffic lid without destroying the tree be successful?" june 8th 2013 3:42 pm Coconut Grove Fl USA

Here is the new chart

Caprising said:

Follow venus aspects to save money, venus trine saturn in scorp means that there is someone who knows how to unblock your septic, follow the grand trine around to neptune which indicates a chemical treatment will complete the grand trine and probably (dis)solve the problem. If you follow mercury (your present thought pattern) your in opposition to pluto in cap (contractors who might see you as a potential paying customer) which could cost you thousands for a new (potentially un-needed) tank. Pour 3 or 4 litres of straight bleach down the toilet, flush the toilet once if possible, leave overnight so that the bleach will eat the blockage.
Let me know how it goes!

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Thank you Caprising for your answer. Unfortunately I'm past the dissolving point. It is a true Plutonian situation that I need to get to the bottom of as the Tank has not been emptied in at least 10 years.

aquarius7000 said:

Hi,

There is no aspect between Ven (home) and the Sun/Moon, so I don't think you will. However, I do think there will be some positive turn in the situation in about 4 days/ weeks, as the Moon changes signs and enters into its sign of exaltation, Taurus.

AQ7

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I hope and believe you are right on the money AQ7 as the timing works out correctly. Horary or regular astrology. I'll take it!!!

BTW we had a mini Tropical storm last night and its been raining alot. Aaron (the tree guy) says that there is alot of sand under the roots indicating the roots are on top and the sand would be there to cover a septic tank lid. Also a peice of rebar was discovered next to the site which was probably a marker for the tank lid that the rain uncovered.

aquarius7000 said:

Hi,

Please be kind enough to enlighten, which part of my delineation makes you say that?

Btw, Rubyelixir, I misread the degree on the Moon, so I correct myself on the timing bit. Not 4, but 1 week/month.

AQ7

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The whole structure of horary is bent on aspects that the Moon makes UNTIL she leaves the sign. For example a significant part of Horary is determining whether the Moon is VOC. This is done by determining all the aspects that she will have before she leaves the sign. Another significant technique to find out what will happen is the final aspect of the Moon before she leaves her sign.

While I don't recall anywhere actually saying that you can't use an aspect of the Moon after she leaves her sign, but it follows in everything I've studied that all the significant events about the question end when the Moon leaves her sign.

Can you give me a source to refutes that point of view? If so, then I welcome standing corrected.

Again I agree that the true answer to the question as "No" is correct. My wording of the question "Will I" meaning me personally, well it is true! "I" cannot open the tank lid myself.

Which is why I asked a new question.

Hi,

rubyelixir said:

I hope and believe you are right on the money AQ7 as the timing works out correctly. Horary or regular astrology. I'll take it!!!

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I hope so, too for your sake. Please come back and update. Also, my delineation is based singularly on Horary. With the Moon soon to enter its sign of exaltation, it should get more power. It is your co-sig.

Next time, please try and use the Regiomontanus House system to raise charts.

AQ7

Hi,

Zarathu said:

....While I don't recall anywhere actually saying that you can't use an aspect of the Moon after she leaves her sign, but it follows in everything I've studied that all the significant events about the question end when the Moon leaves her sign.....

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In principle, you are correct in both the two statements, which are a bit contradictory in nature, you have made. My comment on the Moon entering its sign of exaltation, and hence things changing somewhat for the better is not far from the first statement in quotes. Neither is it far from the second statement, if you will look a little deeper into it. If we say that, whilst in a sign (the Moon, ie), the answer is - no, then that is the answer to that question with the Moon in that sign. However, with the Moon at 29° in this chart, and soon to change signs, this is something I couldn't ignore. Change is imminent. And, when I feel compelled to say something, I say it. It may not adhere to text-book knowledge written by fellow human beings, but it is what the chart tells me. So I put together my own knowledge, too. The Moon hence should change things with the change of signs.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge though.

AQ7

aquarius7000 said:

Hi,

I hope so, too for your sake. Please come back and update. Also, my delineation is based singularly on Horary. With the Moon soon to enter its sign of exaltation, it should get more power. It is your co-sig.

Next time, please try and use the Regiomontanus House system to raise charts.

AQ7

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Ok thank you Aq7, I can change it. Did you see the new question chart? I will re-post in regio.