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So, what's the Aquarian Age?

Yeah, yeah, I know. We live in the Pisces Age and next we to the Aquarian Age and that's supposed to be sometime around 2012 according to some astrologers.

But what does it all mean?

P.S. there's a theory by Radu in the website that's interesting but doesn't go with what I hear about the Aquarian age. How does it fit also?

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This article might help Sore http://www.jayweidner.com/2012Topology.html
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Kite,

This article was still too advanced for me. I feel that there are things that I should have known first before reading it. And I didn't even get the bottom line. What is it getting at? Will the world come to an end in 2012? Will end as we know it, maybe?

Also, the mathematical equations near the end of the articles show that out anscestors were not very accruate in their calculations. If they thought that a year was 360 days long, how do we kmow that any time spans or predictions they've given is accurate?
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Sore - I don't think the world will end but I think there will be great changes. What will be is speculation right now. I suggest you google Age of Aquarius and see what you get..there are many opinions on this and I'm not sure there is a definative one out there.
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Re: So, what's the Aquarian Age?

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Yeah, yeah, I know. We live in the Pisces Age and next we to the Aquarian Age and that's supposed to be sometime around 2012 according to some astrologers.

But what does it all mean?

P.S. there's a theory by Radu in the website that's interesting but doesn't go with what I hear about the Aquarian age. How does it fit also?
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The Age of Pisces has been an age of pathos, sorrow, warfare and crucifixions, holocosts, etc. The archetypes of The Age of Pisces are "Fire (Sun) into water (Pisces) and 12th house (Pisces) "self undoing".

The Age of Aquarius (ruled by Saturn and Uranus) introduces revolutionary (Uranus) precision (Saturn) things that move through the air.... cell phones, computers, aviation, space travel, enlightenment, revolutionary activities, NEW IDEAS (I know-aquarius key phrase) etc.
Also, a new scientific based religious/spiritual paradigm of unity (11th house groups) rather than competitive isolation.
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John, according to you, we're already phasing into the the Age of the Aquarius.. on the cusp, so to speak.

Kite, I've tried googling the Age of the Aquarius many times before. I sort of get the idea, but I just don't understand the basis of it. Guess I've got to just read more until it finally sinks in.
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John, according to you, we're already phasing into the the Age of the Aquarius.. on the cusp, so to speak.

Kite, I've tried googling the Age of the Aquarius many times before. I sort of get the idea, but I just don't understand the basis of it. Guess I've got to just read more until it finally sinks in.
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According to my research we started the cusp of Aquarius in 1929.

See, generally http://www.templeofsolomon.org

for calendar errors, precession issues, and the new age of Aquarius

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John, according to you, we're already phasing into the the Age of the Aquarius.. on the cusp, so to speak.

Kite, I've tried googling the Age of the Aquarius many times before. I sort of get the idea, but I just don't understand the basis of it. Guess I've got to just read more until it finally sinks in.
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One can really experience the power of Neptune (Ruler of The Age of Pisces) masking the precision of the transition of the ages!
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Sorehearted,

Boy you sure can ask the BIG complex questions kiddo! Just teasing of course.

Think about everything, everything that you can about these past 2,100+ years. Think about the positive and very negative effects of religious belief systems world wide and how they have been used by some to control the many. Think about the Pisces (the Fishes) Neptune and Virgo (the Virgin) polarity and this alone will shed much light on the Piscean Age and the religious teachings/controls of its time.

During this past Piscean Age humanity has been working with its Emotional Body. In the Aquarian Age humanity will be working on developing its Mental Body. (We'll talk more about this later maybe.)

Personally I don't know nearly as much about the Mayan Calendar as I'd like to but, Winter Solstice of 2012 is the ending of many, many, super long cosmic/astrological/galactic cycles or orbits. Many of these numerous huge cycles/orbits ALL come into alignment and completion together like many different sized wheels within a huge cosmic clock on Dec. 22, 2012 (at 11:11 pm or so I've read). We will be in alignment with our local Source the GC also. This indicates far more than just the past Piscean Age completing and the new Aquarian Age beginning! Winter Solstice 2012 indicates the end of extremely long orbits and cycles of learning within one area of space in the Milky Way galaxy and this expands well beyond just this 3 dimensional reality.

And like Kite said, 2012 won't be the "end" of the world. It will be the end of how life has been, how humanity has been and dealt with physical reality. How humanity will perceive and evolve for the next many long cycles/orbits will be so different that I don't think anyone can comprehend it at this point. Personally, I believe that many probable realities will be birthed out of 2012 providing all for all! (We'll talk more about this too maybe).

To be continued..........
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The great planet Neptune moved into Aquarius in 1998....surely signifying the beginning of Aquarian energies emerging.....
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Hi sore,

Here is my take of the Aquarian Age:

The exact date and time the planet will enter the Age of Aquarius is highly debatable, as can be seen within countless articles on the web. There is a precision (the vestiges of the Age of Pisces' polarity, Virgo) that can't really be reached, even in our day because the start of the an Age is more than the Earth entering into 29 Aqu 59'.

I would pose that first effects of the changing of the Ages began with the Industrial Revolution. Why back that far? It was the Industrial Revolution that began the scientific and technological advances that has led to the world we have today. It also revolutionized how society formed itself. Revolution is one of the hallmarks of Aquarius, is it not? Think of what the world would have been like without the Industrial Revolution, 95% of the world's population still in mostly feudal, rural societies.

During the Industrial Revolution, we also discovered that our solar system was a much larger place than we thought it was. The discovery of Uranus and Neptune took place during this period. Our views were expanded and our imagery increased.

Yet, this is not answering your question of what is the Age of Aquarius.

For me, the Age of Aquarius will be a time that Earth will learn to balance technology, science and humanity and we will learn that the uniqueness of each individual is something to be celebrated and supported rather than feared and shunned. It is a time where spirituality is individualized in such a way that it supports both society and the individual without the demanding that the individual must believe like the society or the society must believe like the individual.

There is a reason that Uranus and Neptune are in mutual reception right now: they are showing us the path of balance between the spiritual, intuitive, scientific/technological and intellectual where all can work with each other in harmony and raise humanity up into its next level of consciousness. The planet of the collective unconscious is in the sign of the individual unconscious and the planet of the individual unconscious is in the sign of the collective unconscious. We are here at this moment to work through the things we have stored in the unconscious in a healthy way to bring to fruition the promise of the Piscean Age: the journey towards full consciousness.

It is also important to remember that Jupiter is co-ruler of Pisces and Saturn is the co-ruler of Aquarius. Jupiter is the planet of the individual conscious, so when it is in its Piscean guise, the individual conscious is learning from the collective unconscious and vice versa. This is how we get our mystics, sages, and the like. They are able to enter the Piscean paradise of full consciousness through contact with the collective unconscious and return unscathed and wiser. Likewise in its Aquarian guise, Saturn brings the collective conscious into its roots of the individual unconscious. It is the action of all four planets working together that will enable humanity to move into full consciousness.

The Age of Pisces was the Promise of Full Consciousness whereas the Age of Aquarius will be the Manifestation of Full Consciousness. In the Age of Pisces, Neptune dreamt and veiled, Jupiter expanded and journeyed. In the Age of Aquarius, Uranus will connect and revolutionize, Saturn will manifest and provide stable structure.

Right now we are seeing the most negative attributes of the waning Piscean Age and the waxing Aquarian Age do battle with one another. Signs in the water element can have issues of letting go. They can tend to hold on tightly to the point of self-destructing and destroying others. Pisces can have a double issue with this because it cannot let go of its great dream (Neptune) and then becomes rigidly dogmatic and self-righteous in its beliefs (Jupiter) and wants everyone else to believe exactly how it does or the others will be, to use a Dispensational Christian literary series title, Left Behind and face hell on Earth. This poke fingers into the eyes of Aquarius, Uranus and Saturn, which bring up the rebellion for rebellion's sake without consideration of the consequences, which Saturn would normally provide. Thus we have the sorry state of affairs that we see on the planet right now.

I don't know if this helps you sore or if it just muddies the water even further. I look forward to your reply.
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This was a great reply, guest, but still didn't quite answer my question.

See, a planet has the colour of Pisces when it is Pisces. A sign gives its attributes to the funtions of the planet that is physically within that sign. But the ages seem to be a completely different issue. Earth is not in Pisces, it's just that humanity is sort of characterized by Pisces traits. It's been moving gradually to have Aquarius characteristics which is why every one feels that the Aquarian Age is getting closer.

But I, for one, do not see the Pisces attributed of our age. Yes, religions evolved in this era, but so what? We're always going to have religions. We won't stop having dreams in an Aquarius Age or a Capricorn Age even. There has to be something more than such reasons to say that we're living in the Pisces Age. Not that I disgaree, I just want to put my finger on bases that resonate, ya know.

I will give you one thing that supports you though, the Science Fiction movies. Have you seen any lately? Have you seen any at all? All of them show the future world in a very Aquarius way (technology, emotional distance, etc) and the hero is always someone with the charcateristics of our age (Pisces I guess). And for the movie to have a happy ending, it has to lead up to the destruction of the Aquarius-like world and promote going back to the "old ways". An example of such movies would be Demolition Man starring Silvester Stalone and Sandra Bullock.

So yes, it does seem that the next step is an Aquarius-like world and it's quite obvious that humanity is still resisting. It's just that.. well.. I see these days to becoming quite like.. Aries! I know I should study like the past 6000 years or so. And yes, civilizations that were there 6000 years ago were very Pisces-like. The ancient Egyptian civilization is a good example. But these days are not Pisces at all. I see Taurus in business and I see Aries in War, but I see no Pisces .. except in Tibet! Most of the religious trends are more Sagittarius than Pisces. This is why I found an article by Radu in this website to be very interesting. He sort of broke down this age (be it Pisces or whatever else) to smaller eras, each carrying the attributes of one sign in a retrograde order from Pisces to Aries. Maybe that's why I feel the Aries and the Taurus.. because we're near the end of this cycle and this age. Maybe the Aquarian Age will start with a similar cycle that also begins with Pisces which will prolong the "feel" of Pisces and ease the transition.

I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud here. I still don't get the basis on which Ages are classified the way the are. Even that smaller cycle eras theory by Radu is quite strange. I like it because it does describes the history of the world as I know it, but it still offers no basis.

Such demand on logical explanations and details.. Can you guess what the ruler of my chart is?
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Sorehearted,

I think I finally understand what you're wanting with this astrological Ages thing. Your last post cleared it up for me!

Now I'm rushing with this and that's a bad thing but here I go anyway. Please everyone else come and add all the other things that I forget with the 2 main lists.

Think of all the things that are connected with both Pisces and Neptune. Then think of all the things that are connected with both Aquarius and Uranus. This alone will show you the focus, the flavor, the learning fields and energies of each of these long 2,100+ year astrological Ages.

Pisces/Neptune things such as----

Oil and all petroleum products and what they've done for humanity
Oil and all the problems connected with it and how its hurt the planet etc.
Drugs and all the positive and negative things because of them
World religions of the past 2,100+ years and what's happened through them
Spiritual and Mystic abilites and both the positive and negative aspects
Emotional body developments in humanity
Emotional Age in general and humanity manipulated emotionally
I'm already forgetting things.....pathetic!


Aquarius/Uranus and even Leo/Sun things such as-----

Waves, Energy in the form of Aquarian waves instead of watery Piscean Oil!
Solar Energy and technologies for so many things like cars, homes, etc.
High tech things and how this too can be over done and cause harm
Individuals becoming more responsible and carrying their 'weight' in society instead of Government and Church doing it.
Mental body developments in humanity
Mental Age in general and humanity running the risk of not pulling in enough Leo Heart to balance all that high MIND of Aquarius.
High creativity and more holistic science and spirituality put back together again
Negative Leo stuff is all over the place already along with some negative Aquarian things IMO, like
"Reality" Shows on TV where everyone fights for their 15 minutes in the Limelight. We're seeing this in little kids too.
All the different issues with children worldwide like child labor, children used sexually, so many negative Leo/ego/children/sleazy creativity things/gambling casino's everywhere suddenly/marketing directed at 5 year olds etc. etc. Low ego, ego, ego being pushed at us like it's normal to be so small! High tech things becoming the new 'drugs' some are addictied to already. Cell phones attached to everyone's heads all the time! Spending way too much time on-line, intimately connected with electrontic equipment and not with Nature at all etc.

There's so much more to these 2 lists but like I said I'm rushing through this. This is a big and important subject I feel though and I hope more people will add to both these lists as we all remember more of the things from both of these Signs, good and bad.
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Interesting reply Lapis. I particularly like how you've pointed out that oil, the traditional source of energy is a liquid (Pisces), while waves are all air-y (Aquarius). I always knew that, but I never really thought about it that way. I bet they'll be using dust as a source of energy in the Capricorn age

Well, yes. The Piscean list you've provided makes a lot of sense. OK. We're living in the Piscean Age. But how did the ancient predict the time frames? Yeah, there maybe a little deviation between their prdictions and reality, but they are awefully too close to be a mere guess. I think that this question is asnwered by that website that I didn't understand the first time. Maybe I should take another look at it.

I have one last question. Is medical advancement also an Aquarian thing?
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Hi sore,

Of course I know how signs influence the coloration of planets. Signs also influence ages, as Lapis was indicating.

What may be hard for you to see is the Age of Pisces coloration because you are living in the midst of it, like all of us. It is harder to see the forest through the trees than a meadow lying outside of it. For me it is far easier to talk about the roots of the Age of Aquarius starting in the Industrial Revolution than speaking about the Age of Pisces. Who knows? Perhaps I have not had many incarnations during the Age of Pisces, so I just don't get all the nuances of it. The Age of Aquarius makes a whole lot more sense to me.

Pisces is the state of pure consciousness, the combination of all consciousnesses, instinct and intuition. Pisces manifests more in subtle energies and dreams rather than hard core material objects. Think of the dream of any religion: a place where all can live in peace, harmony and respect. The problem is that when humans contact the co-rulers of Pisces, Neptune and Jupiter, they can get drugged out and very dogmatic in the way they approach the dream, whether it is called Heaven, Pardes, Nirvana, Shambhala or all the other myriad of human names that place has. They can become judgemental and saying their way can be the only way to reach the dream.

And it doesn't has to be a religious dream. Political dreams are another example. G. W. Bush's dream of American style democracy on countries such as Iraq while trying to quash that democracy dream within the US itself. He has his dream and everybody else better bow down to it no matter what. Bush exemplifies, in my opinion, the creme de la creme of the late Age of Pisces leader.

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Since the discussion turns around the Age of Aquarius, I just remembered I wrote a couple of years ago an article on this stuff, that is not published on astrologyweekly.com, I considered it to be kind of subjective since it brings up an Indian prophecy on the spiritual mission of my country, Romania, in the upcoming new era.

If you want to have a look, the article is available here:
http://astroinfo.ro/eng/articles/romania.php

It basicly comes up with two total solar eclipse charts, of 1962 an of 1999, both having their maximum visibility in Romania. The 1962 eclipse chart is really extraordinary stellium of no less than 7 planets in Aquarius, the eclipse at 15 Aquarius being conjunct Romania's Sun. The second solar eclipse, of 1999, was remarkable by the extraordinarily tensed aspects (fixed cross involving all malefics). This second eclipsewas actually opposed to Romania's Sun.

And as you were talking before on the age of Aquarius and stuff, it just came to me that on December 21, 2012, the transiting North Node at 25.37 Scorpio will conjunct exactly(!) the 1962 eclipse Ascendant at 25.38 Scorpio. Pretty amazing, huh?

Maybe there is really something true in this theory and I should look again more carefully into it.
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Medical advancement is definitely partially an Aquarian thing because the science and technology portion of medicine. Now the art of medicine is a whole nuther issue and would fall more under a different Air sign, namely Libra.

Just a thought: you can have waves in liquid as well as in air. Sound, which we usually think of as an Air quality, carries far better in water than air.

Oil, although it is a liquid, is more of an Earthy liquid to me than a Watery liquid. Which may be part of the problem with oil and the US...an Earth element liquid that the US refuses to let go (a Water trait) of in order to harness Solar waves (Fire) or Air waves (i.e. wind). Perhaps wind and solar power (the polarities of Aquarius and Leo) will become more acceptable as renewable sources as we get more into the Aquarian Age.

Just a little different spin...
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The post dated 12-29-2005 under the name of "Guest" was written by me, having not logged in from an automated reply I received in my e-mail. I have turned off this feature so I should no longer be posting without logging in.

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Some great thoughts in this thread on defining the Age of Aquarius.

I'd like to get symbolic for a moment. Looking at the symbol of Pisces you have two fish swimming in opposite directions in the water. To me this represents the polarity of consiousness or duality as told to us in the story of Adam and Eve where we ate from the Tree of Knowledge and were promised eternal life by knowing Good and Evil. This was the Fall or banishment from the Garden as we took on the Dualistic consciousness where we have separated ourselves from the source of our being by dividing ourseleves in consciousness. It really doesn't make a difference when this Adam and Eve myth occured in time as time is an illusion (the water the fish swim in).

Christ and Buddah as the bringer of the Christed or Crystal consciousness represents the unification force to overcome the polarity by bridging the opposites through compassion and understanding that we are all one being. In Judaism this is elevation of Malchut (the physical world) to Aziluth (the Heavenly world) with Man positioned in-between on the Sephirot of Tipheret.

Aquarius is the Man in this position of straddling the physical and heavenly worlds pouring out the waters of life in a single non-dualistic flow where Man is now the annointing of all things in the physical because everything is alive with consciousness and beingness.

We are talking about a quantum leap in consciousness but also a step back into the Garden from which we come..better connected with the source of our being but matured out of the innocence or fool's paradise we evolved from.
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Kite,

Hi and glad you're back. Hope you 2 had a very special time.

Hey......please get "symbolic" all you want. That was really wonderful! I've been hoping that you'd share more of your knowledge about The Tree Of Life and Astrology. The way you've described the Aquarian Man and what He's doing......says it all so perfectly.

I think I've mentioned somewhere here, about having a little insight a couple decades ago, about the importance of the seemingly empty area, space, between the 2 parallel lines of energy waves in the glyph of Aquarius. You have so clealy and accurately verbalized this huge concept. The second coming is us doing it. Thanks for giving us an expanded view of the Aquarian Age energies and consciousness.
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Thanks Lapis. You know I was going to write a disclaimer like this is my own vision - the opinion is of this author's only - don't try this at home kind of thing but I think Elianah has been writing enough disclaimers for all of us I think

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Lapis - continuing the discussion, you mentioned your insight into the 2 lines in the Aquarius symbol and the seeming space in between. What pops in my head regarding this is untwisted DNA. Sounds weird, I know but there is so much discussion going on with DNA these days. Perhaps the unseen portion between the lines is the so called "junk" DNA which we are being told is actually the spiritual layers of the DNA or remaing 10 strands that are being activated.

Here is a link to some very interesting channeled matarial on the subject and has used Hebrew names for these layers and relates these layers to the Tree of Life. http://www.kryon.com/seminar%20image...0page/DNA.html
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Kite,

Very interesting thought and not weird at all! Thanks for the link to all that Kryon information. I'm going to be busy reading for awhile because I'm not familiar with him. But it makes a lot of sense right off dosen't it? Age of Aquarius, reentering the Photon Light, accelerated DNA reconnections, completion of so many long cosmic sycles, speeding us back up to be able to reside within these higher energies. Very good stuff. Gonna go read more! Thanks.....
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Kite,

I have been playing around for some time with the Etz Chayyim, or Tree of Life, being the equivilent of spiritual DNA. Looking at the double waves of the symbol of Aquarius could be considered the outside pillars of the Etz. Since there is an alef-bet letter between each sefirah, that puts a double dose of Aquarian energy on each of the outer pillars.

The letters of the pillar which contains Binah-Gevurah-Hod are gimel and peh, and if one inserts the oo sound, one has guf, which means body. One forms the word guf by using the vav, which is the lettered path between Keter and Binah. Guf/gimel-kibutz-feh means body. (I tried using the Hebrew letters but they come out as question marks :roll:.)

The letters between sephirot Chochma-Chesed-Netzach on the other outer pillar are bet and kaph. If one also the path that connects Chochma with Keter, you have the shoresh (three letter root) for the verb which means in one conjugation to cry or weep and in another to lament or mourn or cause one to cry.

Perhaps the Aquarian energy in the two outers pillars causes the body to lament and mourn in such a way to work toward the center pillar by using the lettered paths that intersect the central pillar.

What do you think?
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