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Unread 04-17-2006, 11:58 PM
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Hey Lapis - thanks for the quote!

Yes, the journey continues to boggle the mind. I think I ordered about 6 books today on the Mayan calendar and am in conversations with two authors, Calleman and Pinchbeck (his book on 2012 comes out next month).

I can believe that I've pretty much ignored all this Mayan stuff as superstitious apocalypse theory until pretty much this past year. Here's another great link that ties into the geometry and synchronicities of this Age of Aquarius discussion. The Mayan Connection

I'll cross post this in the ET thread as well.


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Unread 04-18-2006, 12:29 AM
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Kite,

The first time I read your line about "Indigos being freedom junkies" I laughed out loud because I can SO relate. Like Marciniak's channeled Pleiadian group calling some of us "System Busters"....... same thing to me! I just really enjoyed the way you said it.

I swear you must be as good a 'Sender' as I am a 'Receiver' because no matter what it seems, I feel and hear you at that level most of the time. Its happened so many times now there's no doubt in my mind any longer that you and I have an invisible etheric string with 2 small tin cans at both ends stretched between us!!!

I should have know that I was quoting all that B. H. Clow Mayan Star info because of you! Like I mentioned before about you getting it (pretty great huh?), there's things in it that will instantly make sense to you. Very personal things, just like it did for me. That's the only book I've found so far that containes some exact information about very specific events, energies and star beings/systems that I'd remembered for most of my life! It was a gift from the higher dimensions when I connected with it. I wasn't so alone with my strange memories and knowings any longer.

I'm off to read the "Mayan Connection" you left.
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Lapis,

Unfortunately, I'm a great sender and became aware of that talent/curse 28 years ago when a clairvoyant read my aura (indigo primary color then btw but I had no clue of significance). ANyway, I had to learn very quickly to be careful with my thoughts as even "normal" people could feel what I was thinking. It really sucked actually but did force me to deal with a lot of stuff so as not to "infect" others.

Hey, I tried to get in conact with BH Clow to discuss my UFO experience and atrological synchronicity and connections with P's. Somehow I got it into my mind that she's Rob Hand's sister. So I wrote Rob and he told me not so. She seems to be undercover with her e-mail so maybe you might know some P's that could add some insight since we are so tightly "tin canned" to each other

Anyway, I guess I'm supposed to be on this quest for now and will continue to "sync" up with what's needed so if your associates or yourself want to withhold, I can certainly understand....I feel another quote coming on...oh rats, I already use that one in my signature!


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Kite,

I don't know how to get in touch with Barbara Hand Clow. I couldn't find anything at her site either.

I remember reading somewhere, in one of her books I think, where she mentioned one of her brothers as "Rob" so I assumed that this was Robert Hand. Now I'm not sure either....? :?

I'm not sure what you meant by??? "....so if your associates or yourself want to withhold, I can certainly understand....."

There's a lot of info in her Pleiadian Agenda book that talks about the Nibiru/Anunnaki/Hebrews-"Hibiru" which was why I was prompted to suggest this book to you now. I sense its private for you (I'm not Jewish as you know) and that's why I haven't said anymore about that. I hope I haven't made you feel like I am withholding anything from you?!
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No no no, I was trying to get a hold of her to try to see if the UFO sighting I had was indeed picturing the Pleaides in the sky. I figured maybe you might receive some information about that..or might not since I seem to be led into all of these other areas. I've posted the images in the ET thread.

Yes the Hibiru information is hard to handle but this is not the first time I've been exposed to it so no worries there. I thought Barbara handled the material responsibly. I wish I could say the same of others who have referenced these accounts. Sitchen is very factual with his work but a few people affiliated with Flower of Life movement are very judgemental in their references almost to point of anti-semitism.

I believe all of this happened as part of a higher plan where duality has no part. It might be worth a discussion thread at some point.

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Please see Star of Bethlehem and Harmonic Concordance Chart of 2003

Although the Dead Sea Scrolls were found in 1947, their content has been pieced together for some time. It's only recently that we've gotten a new Issiah for instance with Greg Braden's Issiah Effect book and the new Judas Gospel. Thomas has been around for awhile but really the mass consciousness for these alternative gospels hit full steam at around the same time as the Harmonic Concordance chart and the Da Vinci code reached critical mass with the help of a Tv special in November of that year

"In November came another bonus: ABC aired a primetime special called "Jesus, Mary, and Da Vinci," which seriously considered the historical ideas in the book. Brown appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America" in the morning, the special aired that night, and Rubin says the one-two punch drove sales through the roof, 34 weeks after publication day. "

My theory is that the original Christianity was too esoteric to be truly understood by anyone except the most initiated. The Bethlehem chart features a Grand Cross which the Harmonic Concordance chart does not but it does feature Chiron - the Raibow bridge which allows all of us to be initiates if we choose to grasp it's "key" to the mysteries.


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Thanks for the links Kite. I was wondering if Chiron was the key (no pun intended).
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Kite,

I'm relieved. Like I've mentioned before, I have a huge connection to Orion so in my own way I understand. I haven't read any of the 'Flower of Life' stuff simply because it never called out to me. Thanks for that validation. And I know you're very right about it all being part of a much higher plane. From 8D to 4D to 3D is a huge learning.......and risk!

Sorry All for getting off-thread a bit! Back to the ET thread with this.
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Re: So, what's the Aquarian Age?



*The bottom line or energy Wave represents life in physical 3D reality. The old human human.

*The seemingly empty space inbetween the 2 lines or Waves of energy, represents 4D or the whole astral plane.

*The top energy Wave represents the 5th dimension (5D), a much less dense reality that vibrates faster than the lower line or Wave. The potential new Cosmic human or human carrying far more Light.

What's being called "Ascension" has to do with much of humanity now going through the beginning phases of being in the bottom line/reality and moving through working and transmuting the space inbetween - all the astral plane junk. The continued process of repeatedly doing this is what slowly vibrates one into the upper or 5D line or energy Wave. This process is IMO the primary purpose of the Age of Aquarius. It may require the full 2,100+ years for those able to make the switch over, or it may happen in a typical Uranian sort of way!?

I received this understanding, this symbology, from one of my short journeys into that upper 5D energy Aquarian Wave....what will become life/reality in the Age of Aquarius if you've transmuted the seemingly empty space inbetween. This one was for you Radu.
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Re: So, what's the Aquarian Age?

Lapis - fantastic intrepretation of the glyph!

The 4D stuff is indeed junk. As confusing as it is, it's a bridge that needs to be crossed. This is the realm of trippiness and tricksters. Bliss junkies beware that what goes up must come down. Or as Pisces shows - What swims right must eventually swim left.

The ups and downs will never fully go away as the Aquarius waves show But...we can surf them if we choose by recognizing we still have one foot in 3D, one foot in 5D which straddles the astral chasm. What will happen in 2012...I'll throw some thoughts into that thread.

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Lapis - fantastic intrepretation of the glyph!

The 4D stuff is indeed junk. As confusing as it is, it's a bridge that needs to be crossed. This is the realm of trippiness and tricksters. Bliss junkies beware that what goes up must come down. Or as Pisces shows - What swims right must eventually swim left.

The ups and downs will never fully go away as the Aquarius waves show But...we can surf them if we choose by recognizing we still have one foot in 3D, one foot in 5D which straddles the astral chasm. What will happen in 2012...I'll throw some thoughts into that thread.

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Here's a thread from 15 years ago, about the Aquarian Age! And, Kite is still posting.

Kite, any new thoughts 15 years later?

And, have you seen my method for determining the Aquarian Age in tropical coordinates using Precession of the Perihelion, in place of Precession of the Equinox in sidereal coordinates?

If so, any comments are welcome, both positive and/or negative.
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I only found this thread because J.A. mentioned that astrologer Chris Brennan is still listed as a member, about 15 years after his last post.

So, I looked him up on the members list, and saw that he'd posted here.

And, there were Kite and Lapis! Lapis had some excellent insights, which Kite appreciated. However, Lapis stopped posting around 10 years ago.

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I think the initial optimism about the Aquarian Age was based on a vision of the future, which hasn't yet come to pass. It was highly intuitive, and involved psychic abilities.

However, it wasn't grounded in current reality. The Ages astrology itself wasn't grounded in astronomy, the way astrological Charts are grounded.

The problem as I see it, is with the variability of the location of the sidereal Sign-boundaries. It's not enough to be able to track the Age Indicator. We need an agreed-upon Zodiac to tell us exactly where that Age Indicator IS, relative to the Signs.

And, the type of Zodiac with that feature, is the tropical one.
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Re: So, what's the Aquarian Age?

The Aquarian age lives by the teachings of 6 most influential people in history:
1. Jesus Christ in Judeo-Christian morality he promoted.
2. Queen Victoria due to her concerns of manners and etiquette.
3. Martin Luther King Jr on integration, diversity and tolerance.
4. Karl Marx on a global scale in socialism and esp. communism.
5. The Prophet Muhammad also on a global scale in developing Islam.
and 6. Buddha has a global influence in developing Buddhism.
But in a Libertarian culture or society, we may not strictly follow these people.
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I'm hoping Kite will rejoin this thread after a 15 year hiatus. It's more about how the Aquarian Age is located in the Zodiac, and how we can calculate when it begins, rather than what it will be like--we have another thread for that question.

I suspect that Kite became disillusioned with it after 2012 came and went without impressive enough results.

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3 tips for the Aquarius age by nagging moralizing PSA "safety nanny state" activists:
1. Wear sunscreen and a hat when outdoors (1990s tips) - sun exalted in this sign.
2. Go outside, don't be a shut in (2000s) - an air sign, esp. clear windy days.
3. Drink LOTS of water (2010s) - the symbol of 2 waves of flowing water.
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For me, the Aquarian Age is simply the next phase for the Earth's precessional cycle.

I wasn't satisfied with the sidereal version, for two main reasons: First, although the concept of an upcoming Aquarian Age resonates strongly for me, I just can't relate well to this being, or having been, an Age of Pisces.

And, second, the timing is too vague, based as it is on a myriad of opinions as to where the sidereal Sign-boundaries should be located.

The alternative was to hypothesize that there was a tropical version that hadn't been noticed yet. And, since the tropical Zodiac is universally accepted in terms of Sign locations, it then became a matter of determining an astronomical means for locating a precessional "Age-indicator", transiting the tropical Zodiac because of Earth's "wobble" as it rotates on its axis.

The key, as it turned out, is a type of precession FAR more obscure than the Precession of the Equinoxes. Namely, "Precession of the Earth's Perihelion"--the time during each seasonal year when the Earth is closest to the Sun.

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When it comes to the Aquarian Age, the confusing thing about the sidereal Ages, besides the retrograde-movement, is the EXTREME uncertainty about the timing. MANY start-dates have been proposed, with some being CENTURIES apart, and it's just one person's opinion versus another's.

The tropical Ages, on the other hand, have definite start-dates, as determined using astronomical calculations.

The (direct-movement) tropical Aquarian Age isn't underway yet, so we're still living in a tropical Age of Capricorn, TRANSITIONING into the tropical Aquarian Age. And in case you haven't noticed, it's not a smooth transition!

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The tropical Precessional Ages explain why the wonderful Vision of what the Aquarian Age will be like, that was glimpsed in the late 1960s and early 1970s, failed to materialize when it was expected.

The vision was true, but the timing was off. Visions of the Future are often like that.

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Those who use the opinion-based position of the sidereal Zodiac, so as to have a sidereal Aquarian Age that has already begun, following the sidereal Age of Pisces, usually now say that it won't really show its true results for several more Centuries. This puts them on the same page as those who say it won't begin at all for several more Centuries, but that when it actually does begin, it will get off to an immediate start, and radically change the World as we now know it.

Tropically, the Aquarian Age will get off to an immediate start by 2150, but is already making waves () as this tropical Age of Capricorn nears its ending.

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