Dirius
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Contraceptive - by definition, prevents conception (fertilization).
If conception has already occured, it is not a "contraceptive".
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Contraceptive - by definition, prevents conception (fertilization).
If conception has already occured, it is not a "contraceptive".
david starling
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I stand corrected. You're absolutely right. Birth-control pills work by preventing ovulation, not implantation. Spermicides also prevent conception.
david starling
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Contraceptives are necessary to prevent abortions. Planned Parenthood is a major supplier of contraceptives to low income women.
The question is, why aren't more young people using contraceptives in the first place? And, why aren't anti-abortionists pushing hard for more use of contraceptives, especially in lower income areas, where the cost of giving birth & raising a child could be the #1 reason for wanting an abortion?
The question is, why aren't more young people using contraceptives in the first place? And, why aren't anti-abortionists pushing hard for more use of contraceptives, especially in lower income areas, where the cost of giving birth & raising a child could be the #1 reason for wanting an abortion?
david starling
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Sweden has free abortion on demand until the 18 week mark. And, no abortions allowed, barring unforeseen complications after 22 weeks. This is in line with no fetal brainwaves until 24 weeks.
As far as black communities are concerned, why aren't black conservatives who are against abortion helping with the contraceptives needed to prevent abortions? Or, maybe they are, if it's a real cause for action in their opinion.
As far as black communities are concerned, why aren't black conservatives who are against abortion helping with the contraceptives needed to prevent abortions? Or, maybe they are, if it's a real cause for action in their opinion.
david starling
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Looks like Sweden's abortion rate by population is twice that of the U.S. Not much contraceptive use there, apparently.
I don't live in Sweden and therefore can not speak as to their terms. I will not pretend I know. I live in the United States and pay taxes here. So my concern is where I reside. If you live in Sweden, what is the black population like? Are planned parenthood strategically placed within the lower income communities? My ob hands out free contraceptive. Also a one parent household has a higher rate of abortions than duel parents.
Dirius
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Sweden has an age of consent of 15, which is disgusting.
Lets not use those perverts as an example of morality.
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david starling
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By percentage of population: 10 million in Sweden, 330 million in the U.S.A., Sweden has twice the percentage rate of abortions compared to the U.S.
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david starling
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Hawaii raised its age of consent from 14 to 16 in 2001.
More than half the States in the U.S. have 16 as the consensual age.
Decadent California has the age of consent at 12.
•[Edit]:Correction!!! Actually, California is one of 11 States with the age of consent at 18.
The rest are either at 16 or 17.
JUPITERASC
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NYPD officer was suspended Sunday without pay
after being caught
using a "disturbing" chokehold on a Black man
Videos of the encounter between Ricky Bellevue and police
emerged on social media following the incident
Police officers are seen trying to hold Mr Bellevue down
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-officer-suspended-video-chokehold-suspect/
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NYPD officer was suspended Sunday without pay
after being caught
using a "disturbing" chokehold on a Black man
Videos of the encounter between Ricky Bellevue and police
emerged on social media following the incident
Police officers are seen trying to hold Mr Bellevue down
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-officer-suspended-video-chokehold-suspect/
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Thanks for the clarification.
I disagree with your statement. I am pro-choice. Genocide can only occur when people are born alive.
I wish there was more concern for people who are born alive. I wish there was more effort put toward making the living world a less racist and violent place.
david starling
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Is limiting population growth in the black community using contraceptives on a voluntary, non-coerced basis, mainly because of economic factors, considered "genocide" by black conservatives?
Dirius
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Dirius
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You are advocating population control of a specific minority david.
Re-read your statement.
JUPITERASC
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david starling
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No, it's the black conservatives who are singling it out. I, for one, would suggest that anyone, of any race should have contraceptives readily and affordably available to avoid economic hardship, or any other problem related to having a child.
You can't have it both ways--EITHER the object is to prevent abortion on moral grounds; OR, the object is to increase the population. If it's the latter, then contraception would be just as objectionable as abortion.
Genocide definition:
The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.
Extermination definition
The act of exterminating; total expulsion or destruction; eradication; extirpation:
Abortion definition
Induced termination of a pregnancy with destruction of the embryo or fetus.
david starling
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For many anti-abortionists, the concern for a child's welfare ends at birth.
david starling
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As Dirius so correctly pointed out, "contraception" is not "abortion".
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