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Would someone like to interpret my chart?

I have researched basically every aspect & house placement on my own, but I'm not a professional and I'm sure there is much more for me to learn!

Also, I feel that when people look at other people's charts, they usually get an overall impression, which the natal person may not see the same way...

I would love to see what people "pick up on" from my chart... Your first impression, or general "feel" of my chart... Please let me know anything and everything that comes to mind! Any tidbits or depth and detail would be welcome... I love learning as much as possible! I'm open to anything!
Go ahead and tell me one thing, or tell me ten! (or more!)
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edit: I first posted my Placidius, but then added Equal & Koch House Systems for those who use them...
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I didn't think Astro.com would actually add the glyphs of the 4 first asteroids, I'm glad they did even if they don't find them useful or if they still have their preference for Chiron, as an asteroid user I feel more respected by them. But enough of that, onto the chart:

So many planets in the 12th, the most restrictive house of all, the planets in it want to express themselves but they hold themselves back, often either out of just not seeing a point, some sort of psychological conditioning, you just like to hide these issues or deal with them later or hope to avoid them. Pluto opposite the Ascendant, I bet that's a bit tense in addition to the restrained Aries planets which are ruled by Mars in Gemini with mutual reception with Mercury. You're probably a person who bottles things up until they explode I'm guessing, especially with the yod formed by Mercury and Mars to Pluto and the Moon besieged by Saturn and Uranus and very accidentally debilitated by being diurnal, above the horizon and decreasing in light, but since it's in the positive sign Sagittarius and trines the Sun you probably only have a little difficulty expressing yourself (the conjunction with Saturn, near semisquare with Pluto and post-opposition with Chiron might still again add tension and make you a bit regretful of things). I think it's not too hard to figure out what exalted Venus forming a semisextile to the Sun means, especially when the creating, presence and importance of dealing with relationships is reinforced by Juno sextiling Saturn, the Moon and Uranus. Taurus rising with Vesta in the ascendant, well Vesta often tends to have small, round, sort of rodent-like physical features, particularly in females but not always.

Chart dominated by cardinal (establishing things for oneself) and secondarily mutable (flexibility to circumstances).

So, those are some of my guesses, it's incomplete and I'm sorry if they're a bit pessimistic.
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Re: Chart Interpretation? (first time!)

You have calculated your chart using the default on astro.com of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

Now in Equal house your venus is well in 11th which is far better than 12th Just look at how huge 6th and 12th are. If you are new to learning astrology I suggest you leave the asteriods til last...

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My style/way of helping newcomers is for them to do more research and learning rather than just ‘drop the answer in your lap’ and not necessarily to provide professional readings and forecast future events. If you are truly interested in astrology, I and most others here will help you…..

Having a Sagittarius MC which is the sign of the teacher and I do indeed teach astrology. This forum is a wonderful community of all mixed levels and types of astrologers. So I may provide links to encourage you in the hope that if you are sincerely interested enough you will do the research and enlighten yourself….

12th house planets/aspects
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/dkfArtTwelfthHouse.htm
http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart-12th.html
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoun...rmaHouse12.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/inhouses-sun.html#Twelfth

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_dgtwehouse_e.htm
Research threads on AW
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3173&highlight=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19818&highlight=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19818&highlight=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18312&highlight=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18312&highlight=12th+house

Mars and pluto are singletons and mars is Apex for Yod confirguration.
Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression.
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

Lack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm

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Astrologer50, as someone with Saturn and Neptune in the 4th house by Placidus and not by whole sign, trust me, Placidus is more accurate. Not sure if my Moon is more 5th or 6th house as that changes as well, though both are the same by equal house from ASC, but my Neptune sign changes by Eq. f/ MC so I find that inaccurate. Placidus is calculated by the 4 directions, North, South, East, West with due East as the Ascendant, due South as the Midheaven, the opposing degrees as the Descendant and IC then dividing the areas between where those lines perpendicularly meet into 3 sections each - 12 houses and the same reason that Aries is often considered equivalent to the 1st house since the Eastern point on the ecliptic where spring starts when the Sun is there is the first of Aries, 1st of Cancer most Northern etc..

Nextly she asked for an overview and said she'd done plenty of research herself, so that's what I provided (still waiting to find out if I was close, AriesJupiter ). I have a pretty good collection of links, ebooks and online astrology texts as well and she could just Google these things, that's what I did as I taught myself astrology. And forget what you've seen on Star Wars, Pallas and Vesta aren't dust, they're the size of Oregon and Ceres is bigger still. She could save them for last, but they do have their own meanings and IMO deserve attention. And her Pluto's not singleton even if you don't consider Pallas important, she also has Venus in a water sign.
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Astrologer50, as someone with Saturn and Neptune in the 4th house by Placidus and not by whole sign, trust me, Placidus is more accurate. Not sure if my Moon is more 5th or 6th house as that changes as well, though both are the same by equal house from ASC, but my Neptune sign changes by Eq. f/ MC so I find that inaccurate. Placidus is calculated by the 4 directions, North, South, East, West with due East as the Ascendant, due South as the Midheaven, the opposing degrees as the Descendant and IC then dividing the areas between where those lines perpendicularly meet into 3 sections each - 12 houses and the same reason that Aries is often considered equivalent to the 1st house since the Eastern point on the ecliptic where spring starts when the Sun is there is the first of Aries, 1st of Cancer most Northern etc.. What has all YOUR placements got to do with helping/answering the OP members 'read my chart' post?

Nextly she asked for an overview and said she'd done plenty of research herself, so that's what I provided (still waiting to find out if I was close, AriesJupiter ). I have a pretty good collection of links, ebooks and online astrology texts as well and she could just Google these things, that's what I did as I taught myself astrology. And forget what you've seen on Star Wars, Pallas and Vesta aren't dust, they're the size of Oregon and Ceres is bigger still. She could save them for last, but they do have their own meanings and IMO deserve attention. And her Pluto's not singleton even if you don't consider Pallas important, she also has Venus in a water sign.
Pluto is the only sign in a 'fixed' element and IS therefore a singleton and mars is only planet in air element to.

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Personally, I don't take pallas into consideration but am not negating other people's beliefs either, but for the point of 'singleton' they are not planets, simple point, so therefore are not taken into consideration.l

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My point is that knowing the difference between how those planets work in those houses it's apparent to me that whole sign doesn't work so well, and considering how unused that system goes I'm willing to bet that most other people who've tried it have probably found that it's not so accurate in their case as well, that's my opinion, do what you like.

Ah, but Pluto's not a planet either! Actually when they were first discovered the first 4-10 asteroids were considered planets and some astrologers, myself included, suspect one or so of them might have potential as ruler of one or more of the signs still sharing a traditional rulership, particularly the Earth signs. [deleted response to attacking comment - Moderator]
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Thank you, everyone!

dhundhun: Yes, March & April seem to be my own personal "New Year"... very active, refreshing, opportunistic, thriving... How did you figure that out? I would love to know! Very true indeed!

Mars-trine-Pallas: Great chart interpretation! No, astro.com didn't add those asteroids, I did... I like using Chiron and I have done light research on the others and figured if I added a few of the main ones, someone (with more knowledge than I) might be able to tell me something! And you did! (perfect!) Vesta on the ascendent was a perfect example. That describes me very well... (When I was a teenager, I specifically remember someone referring to me as "mousy" looking- although I don't think they were trying to offend me... I just have very small, delicate, soft, pointy features... like a mouse would) Thank you also for pointing out that yod to me... somehow I never caught that aspect! Yeesh! Quite a major one indeed... actually I see one with Pluto sextile Neptune Quincunx Mars as well... what do you think of that? That makes two yods including Mars! Or maybe even more if we play with the combinations... I would love to hear more of your knowledge because I am very interested in seeing how asteroids fit into my chart... Also, what did you mean by "...exalted Venus forming a semisextile to the Sun... especially when the creating, presence and importance of dealing with relationships is reinforced by Juno sextiling Saturn, the Moon and Uranus"...??? Also, what's up with my Moon being "besieged by Saturn and Uranus" & being "debilitated" & "diurnal"? I'll have to look that stuff up! Thank you so much for everything so far! p.s. also Mercury/Mars mutual reception... very true! Thank you for pointing that out to me!

astrologer50: I posted my chart in Equal House for you to look at. Maybe you could give me some feedback? I am very interested to see how that chart interpretation resonates with me.... maybe I will switch to be an Equal House follower?
Thank you for pointing out my singleton planets. Somehow I never realized I had those two (Pluto & Mars). And thank you for all the wonderful links! I will be looking into the yod aspect and others!

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AriesJupiter, that's an impactful chart you have there. Much of your true potential is quite hidden within your secretive 12th house, and will no doubt emerge as time passes, and these planets are activated.

Just some random thoughts:

Pluto conj Desc in Scorpio in 7th. That's huge. Themes in your life of relationships from which emerge issues to do with control and possession, possessiveness, being right, manipulation. Pluto is part of both Yods, so Pluto looks significant. Since none of us live in a vacuum, and Pluto oversees your relationship life, this is a significant area of your life for learning your lessons. Your relationships with others will not be boring, but will ofetn be challenging.

Mars in Gemini at the apex of the 2nd Yod, so this will also be a part of your life to undergo challenge. You may need to access the true power of a Gemini Mars, and that it is best not always used to change direction as a way of escaping difficult situations!

Lilith in Cancer, Moon in 8th, Sun in 12th, Neptune conj Ceres - very sensitive, warm and emotional - and no doubt you pick up a lot of impressions from your environment. You'll have to fine-tune this ability, because when either of your Yods is activated by transit, or progression, or synastry when in a relationship with another, you will have to make the right decisions under pressure.

If you haven't done so yet I'd suggest you check out the Yod threads on this forum. Around a year or so ago Yods were discussed in some depth.
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Wonderful advice, R4ven!
All very true... especially Pluto descendent (relationships are huge! challenging! all-consuming! very important! life-changing! exciting! necessary! deep, very often manipulative, powerful, painful, posessive, disruptive, etc! Very Plutonian!) My Mars in Gemini is something that kind of "defines me" as an individual... I have so much energy (almost hyperactive, fast speech & highly talkative, inquisitive, debating, etc. short attention span) all the Mars Gemini classic traits, very heightened! When I am "on", I am "on" to the extreme! Quick! etc. People often find me to be a bit of a character and as a teenager I was sometimes (albeit playfully) teased or found to be a source of humor because I was something of a unique character... so much energy, etc. (People used to say, "are you on drugs?" I would say "no!" & they would say, "well then never, ever do drugs! you are crazy! [like on speed]" ) I wonder if that has to do with my Mars issues? It's very hard to pin me down... I'm flighty, changeable, argumentative... all describing my more "immature" Mars attitudes, but since I've grown up a bit (I'm now 23) I am much more subdued and mature... I don't think I come across the same way anymore (at least not all the time!) Much more mellow... socially conforming, of course (learned).
However, I DEFINITELY am "very sensitive, warm and emotional - and no doubt you pick up a lot of impressions from your environment". I feel almost psychic, especially in one-to-one partnerships (I feel like I can pick up on other people's feelings like a sponge) That could be due to Pluto in the 7th though... Well, thank you for all of your input! I love hearing everything! I didn't know Ceres conjunct Neptune meant anything... I'll have to look into that...

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AriesJupiter, thanks so much for your feedback - we old hands need this because sometimes some of us get it wrong, or focus on something which has not yet emerged as important.

About the psychic sensitivity - Moon in the 8th, very, very sensitive to the vibes of people and places, and this is especially so with people with whom you share your space, or a relationship.

Added to that, something I had missed on first viewing your chart was your Sag Moon very, very closely conjunct Uranus, both in the 8th house. This is a placement you had better read up on if you have not already. As well as the Mars placement in Gemini, Moon-Uranus conjunction in Sag can be quite erratic mood-wise. I suspect that this may add to how people see you and perceive you. It will be important to keep a check on how others are reacting to you, as well as what they say in relation to you. i.e. if they describe you as `speedy', or `what are you on today?' then perhaps you may need to do some kind of reality check.

I would also suggest that you learn how to `protect' yourself psychically, as you could be a real sponge, and this can lead to you picking up on the emotions and feelings of others, and acting this out.
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AriesJupiter, thanks so much for your feedback - we old hands need this because sometimes some of us get it wrong, or focus on something which has not yet emerged as important.

About the psychic sensitivity - Moon in the 8th, very, very sensitive to the vibes of people and places, and this is especially so with people with whom you share your space, or a relationship.

Added to that, something I had missed on first viewing your chart was your Sag Moon very, very closely conjunct Uranus, both in the 8th house. This is a placement you had better read up on if you have not already. As well as the Mars placement in Gemini, Moon-Uranus conjunction in Sag can be quite erratic mood-wise. I suspect that this may add to how people see you and perceive you. It will be important to keep a check on how others are reacting to you, as well as what they say in relation to you. i.e. if they describe you as `speedy', or `what are you on today?' then perhaps you may need to do some kind of reality check.

I would also suggest that you learn how to `protect' yourself psychically, as you could be a real sponge, and this can lead to you picking up on the emotions and feelings of others, and acting this out.
Yes, all very true. Fortunately, as I mentioned, I have grown up quite a bit & no longer come across the way I used to! (I was referring to my natural, uninhibited energy when I was younger, rebellious, and less caring of others' responses to me). But yes, you are very right that I should pay attention to what people say, because with the psychic-sponge syndrome, you are right, I do act out the feelings of others... I think that is why I used to be so hyperactive, because I was overloaded with feelings of my mother, particularly, who was very sick mentally & emotionally & I was very sensitive. Now that she has passed, and life is different, you might say I have a bit of post-traumatic stress disorder, but there is nothing to worry about anymore and I have learned that life is not supposed to be constant stress. (for "normal" people!) I have tried to conform... It is still difficult though (to not feel stressed for no reason). I was diagnosed with a mood disorder as a teenager, and also struggled with depression for most of my (short) life... however, through studying astrology, I have learned so much about myself, that I no longer put those labels on myself anymore. I have found better ways to function. However, I really would like to learn some skills to 'protect' myself psychically, because at this point in my life, (the past 2 years or so) the "psychic" feelings have only grown stronger, to the point that I feel toxic & overwhelmed, confused... etc. I would really like to figure out about these "psychic" feelings. It is taking a very hard toll on me, because there are too many and I don't have any experience or confidence in understanding them... Life is very overwhelming with all the psychic undertones (for example, meeting multiple "soulmates" or possible "twin flames" around the same time frame... very confusing! And feeling fated connections, like I have known people before... very confused...)
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Also, what's up with my Moon being "besieged by Saturn and Uranus" & being "debilitated" & "diurnal"?
Moon conj Uranus and venus square Uranus are most widely recognised as 'divorce aspects' and moon/uranus break with mother, females and women. You probably get on better with men espec when younger as the seem more straightforward (without agenda) It can also suggest that you seek unsual things (uranus) to feed the emotional and intuitive side (moon) Now in the 8th house of SEX -- make your own mind up. Now adding the straight laced, prude Saturn will make you hold back from anything to unconventional.

Poor venus is squared by saturn - feeling unloved in childhood. Venus square moon -stress from childhood connected to mother. Mercury conj Jupiter tends to overtalk when it needs to keep quiet or undertalk when it should be talking.

Now chart ruler venus and 11th house matters ie: friends, groups, large organisations hope and wishes. Venus is wherever we 'give out' and 'receive back' pleasure. Exalted venus needed to be due to the challenging squares it has. Remember planet is modified by sign, where is expresses is house and how it functions is 'aspect'

MC ruler is saturn placed in 8th conj moon, this aspect suggested cool reserved emotional nature, quite able to endure financial hardships as experienced in childhood

End Feb first week mars T Uranus was conj natal uranus, did you meet anyone exciting, unusual? sudden romance, social night out?? Now also this transit will 'set off' natal venus aspects which includes the venus squ moon aspect. So T uranus would also square moon, which could suggest a broken friendship with woman to?
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Moon conj Uranus and venus square Uranus are most widely recognised as 'divorce aspects' and moon/uranus break with mother, females and women. You probably get on better with men espec when younger as the seem more straightforward (without agenda) It can also suggest that you seek unsual things (uranus) to feed the emotional and intuitive side (moon) Now in the 8th house of SEX -- make your own mind up. Now adding the straight laced, prude Saturn will make you hold back from anything to unconventional.

Poor venus is squared by saturn - feeling unloved in childhood. Venus square moon -stress from childhood connected to mother. Mercury conj Jupiter tends to overtalk when it needs to keep quiet or undertalk when it should be talking.

Now chart ruler venus and 11th house matters ie: friends, groups, large organisations hope and wishes. Venus is wherever we 'give out' and 'receive back' pleasure. Exalted venus needed to be due to the challenging squares it has. Remember planet is modified by sign, where is expresses is house and how it functions is 'aspect'

MC ruler is saturn placed in 8th conj moon, this aspect suggested cool reserved emotional nature, quite able to endure financial hardships as experienced in childhood

End Feb first week mars T Uranus was conj natal uranus, did you meet anyone exciting, unusual? sudden romance, social night out?? Now also this transit will 'set off' natal venus aspects which includes the venus squ moon aspect. So T uranus would also square moon, which could suggest a broken friendship with woman to?
Wow! All of your descriptions are completely accurate! However, I don't necessarily feel that I was "unloved" as a child, more that nobody had time for me... (I was an accidental 3rd child & my parents divorced soon after). I also know that my mother had terrible stress while she was pregnant with me (felt guilty for bringing another child into the family when she knew her marriage wasn't working, etc.) Yes, I do tend to prefer the straightforward nature of men, probably also because I was strongly influenced by my own father since he raised me primarily through my teens, especially. Also, I did have financial hardships, and yes I do feel equipped to handle any financial struggle. Also, I agree I can be quite emotionally reserved and "cool"... when my Venus in Pisces isn't feeling overly sensitive or hurt, that is!
I'm not sure about the transits... I know that back in last April or May (2009) when transiting Uranus first hit conjunct to my Venus & square Moon, I had some strange breakdowns, & a sudden love affair that wasn't right due to timing & other commitments, very odd strange time that I couldn't understand what was going on... felt like a roller coaster and honestly times have been tough like that for the past year or two (I suppose it's transiting Uranus aspecting a lot of my planets).
Also, you're right about Mercury conjunct Jupiter... I do tend to "over speak" or talk way too much or say more than I should (when I shouldn't) or else remain completely silent and stay in the background when I do indeed have plenty of valid things to share that others wouldn't mind me saying.
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I like your introduction a lot, You are very smart in a hidden way
The cluster in 12th including mercury in Aries.

Some points cought my attention.

1. Jupiter conjunction with north node in 12th.
2. Moon/Uranus tight conjunction (How about it? )
3. The yod with Pluto as a focal point.
4. Another yod with Mars focal, (Double yod pattern)
5. The amount of fire in your chart.

Eros,Vesta in the first house, May be you are sexy.

Read about the double yod aspect with a square figure, I think it carries much irritation and tension?

Saturn retrograde and lilith conjunct IC ( repel against The father figure?? )

I wonder also what was the effect of Pluto transit over your Moon/Uranus conjunction and now playing with your Fortuna.

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Hello,,

I like your introduction a lot, You are very smart in a hidden way
The cluster in 12th including mercury in Aries.

Some points cought my attention.

1. Jupiter conjunction with north node in 12th.
2. Moon/Uranus tight conjunction (How about it? )
3. The yod with Pluto as a focal point.
4. Another yod with Mars focal, (Double yod pattern)
5. The amount of fire in your chart.

Eros,Vesta in the first house, May be you are sexy.

Read about the double yod aspect with a square figure, I think it carries much irritation and tension?

Saturn retrograde and lilith conjunct IC ( repel against The father figure?? )

I wonder also what was the effect of Pluto transit over your Moon/Uranus conjunction and now playing with your Fortuna.

I will be back.
Wow, I like your style !

I didn't notice I had Eros in the 1st... that explains a lot! (people find me attractive whether I like it or not)
Repel against father figure... well, I love my father dearly, but yes, I hate the idea of being controlled or told what to do. My father is somewhat passive and doesn't demand anything of me, really. So I am repulsed by that sort of person. (A man controlling me)
When Pluto transited my Moon/Uranus... you won't believe what happened... My Mom DIED!!! Seriously... I just found this out recently and I am still shocked over it. Literally I was looking at the day/time she died and transiting Pluto was at 26.35' Sagittarius! No Joke! I still have no idea what is up with such a literal translation... and she died of a house fire (completely random and unexpected... she just couldn't escape) This was a few years ago when I was almost 19 (I am now 23).
I would love to hear what you have to say about Fortuna. I am not familiar... is that an asteroid? I'll have to look it up. I had no idea Pluto was toying with something of mine still other than it's approach to my Midheaven! (and also my Neptune). I know Pluto is messing with me somehow though, I can feel it majorly. Maybe if I learn about Fortuna, I will understand exactly what is going on (because as of right now, I don't!)
Thank you for your feedback
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I am so sorry about your mother.

Although you seam to know more about astrology than you show,
(Which in fact a 12th house trait), but here is a source to know about your Fortuna.

http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm

Have a wonderful day...

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I am so sorry about your mother.

Although you seam to know more about astrology than you show,
(Which in fact a 12th house trait), but here is a source to know about your Fortuna.

http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm

Have a wonderful day...

T-2000
It's okay, I am okay now. But thank you very much for your condolences.
Yes, people sometimes are mistaken by me, thinking I don't know things when I really do (the 12th house "hidden" personality thing). It can be frustrating.
But thank you so much for the link about Fortuna. I very much appreciate all the wonderful feedback you gave me about my chart.
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Oooh, you meant Part of Fortune! Sheesh! I forgot it was also called Fortuna! Silly me... Well, yes! I would love to know about the effects of transiting Pluto upon the Part of Fortune!
Does anyone know about that? My Fortuna is at 3' Capricorn... So Pluto has already crossed over it (but the past year or so has been... well, insane, to say the least!)
If anyone knows about transiting Pluto crossing over the Part of Fortune I would LOVE to know about it...
Thank you so much!!!
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POF
http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm
http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html
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What an excellent signature the above would make, AJ......Welcome to the forum.


I'll be 87 when pluto crosses my natally opposing PoF, but it made a square at age 42......during which it created circumstances that enabled me to retire from my career/work at 44...

...In my case, natal Pluto in Leo/11th is about understanding the use of personal power in groups...whilst the opposing PoF in Aquarius/5th is about astrology as a recreation/hobby...At the square, I'd learned enough (through my career) about the use/misuse of personal power for the planets to reward me by allowing me to pursue astrology as a full-time hobby...

...So to understand what might happen when Pluto crosses your PoF, you need to look at their meaning/lessons in the natal chart AJ....Pluto in Scorpio/7th sextile PoF in Capricorn/3rd.


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Thank you, EJ!! You're right, that would make a wonderful signature! I'll have to consider that...
Thank you for your description of T. Pluto crossing the POF. I will try and see if I can come up with a plausible translation. However, I will make one correction to what you said... my Part of Fortune is in Capricorn in the 9th! So, you were right about Pluto Scorpio in the 7th, but I'll have to see what I think about that with Cap. POF in the 9th.
Really, I'm at a loss for how to interpret it! But if you have any ideas I would love to hear. Otherwise, thank you so much for all your help!
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POF in the 9th.
Really, I'm at a loss for how to interpret it! But if you have any ideas I would love to hear. Otherwise, thank you so much for all your help!
Hello again...

Transiting Pluto over planets and points key word is (Transformation)

In your case Pluto transiting house 9 in general so the transformation may be
- Going to a forign land,
- Transformation to higer consioucness ( which I expect more )
- Meeting ppl from far lands (As you do now)
- Learning to evolve spritualy (As you study astrology now)

I think as the POF is a fortune point, and pluto is powerful, Any transformation caused by this transit will be to your benefit.
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In your case Pluto transiting house 9 in general so the transformation may be
- Going to a forign land,
- Transformation to higer consioucness ( which I expect more )
- Meeting ppl from far lands (As you do now)
- Learning to evolve spritualy (As you study astrology now)
Wow, thank you so much for your examples! Yes, "transformation to a higher consciousness" rings true... as well as, learning to evolve spiritually, astrology, meeting people from far lands, and going to far lands...
This all rings true of the general vibe that has been happening to me for about over the past 2 years or so... Wonderful examples! Thank you so much!
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Saturn retrograde and lilith conjunct IC ( repel against The father figure?? )
Would anyone like to comment on this for me?
I first responded to T-2000 with, "yes, I don't like to be controlled"... but really, after more thought, I think this "repellent" thing may have something to it... but I'd like some further interpretation on this...

What does Lilith conjunct IC mean? And Saturn retrograde? (for father?)

p.s. I am not "repelled" by my father, however, when I was younger I did have a problem with Cancer emotions (since it is my Lilith- and I deny those emotions) and my father is a VERY sensitive, caring (Mercury R/Venus Cancer) man. As a rebellious teenager, I would be "bothered" by him being "too caring"... (he raised me without the help of my mother & tried to be both mom & dad- a very wonderful father [in retrospect]) In addition, my sisters and other family members equally gave me those feelings... (my 2 older sisters= Cancer Sun & Cancer Moon) I wonder if that is what is meant by this placement... They would say things like, "we just care about you!" and "we're just making sure you're okay!" & it would really bother me!... in fact it still does... the whole idea feels too clingy & personal and trapped feeling... (I'm not very watery other than my Venus in Pisces- which is more passive than 'clingy') But now that I am older, and I have lost my mother, I am more appreciative of my "caring" family, and I value the time I have with them. They are my friends, and I just have to get past my childish feelings, I suppose... (And I never told these feelings to them- I think that would really hurt their feelings) However, I would make emotional displays that I was "annoyed" with them... but anyway...

Does this sound typical of Lilith conjunct IC? How about Saturn R representing father? What does that mean?

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