how is a rectification done?

I know that if one doesn't know his birth time, or if the birth time in a birth certificate is way off (like for example, in my case) astrologer uses a method called rectification, now what does that exactly mean?

When I went to a local astrologer, he saw that the time I gave him (from the certificate) is very off, as there is nothing not even close to what should I be with it. It's possible that the time is off for even more than 1 hour + or - and that is enough to change my AC, etc(better not explain WHAT have the doctors done when I was born, you would laugh)....... So how is it done?

I am going to call him to do that recification and FINALLY know when I was born exactly, but I am interested to know what is that exactly

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Well, there's a site that tries to explain it. It may help you. It's a VERY complicated process, very subjective etc. I honestly do doubt your certificate is wrong by much-I could be wrong, but it would be *very* unusual. It's also very expensive, so be careful.If you were to get 2 astrologers to rectify your chart, I'm almost positive they would come up with different times, so I don't regard rectified charts as being accurate or valid really. No more so than noon charts anyway.
Some rectifiers use solar arcs too, another method.
There's a chance you still won't know your correct birth time.
Cheers
Lilly

Thanks lilly

Actually, knowing that my mother remembers they didn't note the birth time when I was really born, but after a break (!?) says it all. It is quite off, unfortunately I don't feel myself as Scorpio rising, as I don't find any qualities I should have there, but Libra rising "sounds" like it. Although I am still not certain.

I only know that I am born at night for now, and that's it.

Solar Arcs
Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC 1' for each year of your life onto planets and vice versa. Not just used for rectification either. Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc. Another example is my Pluto is 28' Leo in 7th house and my Uranus is 3' Leo in same house to subtract these and you get age 25. That year my then husband and I had an almighty explosion (Uranus) and transformation (Pluto) of that marriage that started the demise and ultimate ending thereof....

Further research on solar arcs try these threads.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12024&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12958&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/rectification.html
http://www.frankstar.com/solararc.htm
http://thezodiac.com/arcs.htm
http://www.donmc.com/Comparing%20Transits%20and%20Solar%20Arcs%20II.htm
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/solar_arc_directions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.bernadettebrady.com/Pdfs/...tification.pdf

Rectification of birth time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0G2S2Ti4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMX9X2C1BQ&NR=1
· Transiting Pluto square, conj opp Asc, Desc, MC, IC
· If under 12’ when it conj an Angle then their age was under age 12 it’s parents adjustments. A death, change within father’s work, a separation, remarriage.
· Adults or teens, 1st job, identity transformation MC.
· Pluto conj Desc = death, health concerns, geographic, significant relationship or break up, but has to be ‘life transforming’
· Also try transiting Neptune, something dissolving, disappearing, confusing etc.
· Timings of transits… is it the 1st hit? More often it’s the middle retrograde hit… but could be the last direct hit also. 1’ =4minutes in time.

The following is a post from 'celebrity astrology' thread that illustrates as simply as can be, how rectification is done--------------------------------------------------------

This is the standard chart given for MLK, Jr, based on his quote of "noon" from memory. [Added note: I don't doubt his recall from what was told him. He had an excellent mind. However, it is not enough for astrologers to create accurate, reliable horoscopes based on such rounded figures.] It shows an interception of signs in the 5th-11th, which would indicate an entertainer or artistically-related occupation. Not him.



This is the chart adjusted by me, based on Mars moving through his rising sign at the time of his death by assasination (12th house, secret enemies). The transit indicates there should be interceptions of signs in the 6th-12th, and with natal planets in 12th, it indicates service to humanity, fitting for his life and accomplishments.

Good stuff. The only thing I would doubt is that you would be able to derive first breath time from known astrological data. You would most likely pinpoint a time just before you were physically born, which is actually typical. The start of the life clock, something I've heard called natalisation (the moment the astrological factors crystalise into the new being of a person being born), generally happens during labour and can be several hours before pop-out time. There's almost no doubt that you will be able to rectify a functional chart, but getting the first breath time from astrology is like getting astrology from the first breath time. It's fuzzy!

Mark's comments regarding the "first breath" forceably reminds me of the esoteric Vedic doctrine of the swara, and of what I learned about this from Jaimini adepts years ago: I have elaborated on this somewhat in my posts regarding "swara" in the Natal Section thread entitled "Entrance of the Soul seen Astrologically" (that is also the thread where I also described a related concept, in a couple of other posts there, about an esoteric belief called the "3 Sealings")

Can I safely assume that those "three sealings" have something to do with the three births of man?

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Backy said:

I know that if one doesn't know his birth time, or if the birth time in a birth certificate is way off (like for example, in my case) astrologer uses a method called rectification, now what does that exactly mean?

When I went to a local astrologer, he saw that the time I gave him (from the certificate) is very off, as there is nothing not even close to what should I be with it. It's possible that the time is off for even more than 1 hour + or - and that is enough to change my AC, etc(better not explain WHAT have the doctors done when I was born, you would laugh)....... So how is it done?

I am going to call him to do that recification and FINALLY know when I was born exactly, but I am interested to know what is that exactly

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Backy, I'll try to answer your question more exactly now.

Astrologers don't really "rectify" anything but a chart. Rectify means to correct. You cannot correct a time that is unknown. An astrologer specializes in horoscopes and an advanced one will generally be able to arrive at an effective, usable chart for you if you do not know your time of birth.

I have been able to arrive at correct charts for clients even when they gave me mistaken or disputed birth information. That is because I'm looking at the general time of day and their appearance, physiology, personality to see what sign/aspect matches up for their Ascendant figure.

I cannot speak for your local astrologer or his view of your birth certificate. The only thing an astrologer can do is correct the horoscope. The recorded time of birth is simply a starting place for arriving at a correct birth chart. It isn't necessary for you to know your exact time of birth.

Thanks for the reply

Well, my case is a bit complicated. When I first had an astrological reading I posted a wrong chart, but it was just my mistake as I thought I was a "day birth" without asking anyone or looking at the certificate.

After a couple of very detailed delinations were NOTORIOUSLY wrong, I began to suspect. Mother said that I am born in the evening and said the time that was recorded on the certificate. However, the time that was recorded COULD BE VERY WRONG AS WELL, as the doctors recorded it AFTER they drunk a coffee and after a break! That is what my mother told me, and it has sense as this chart is pretty wrong as well, so it could be a whole hour earlier maybe! It is very immature of them, but what can you do....

Until I figure out (not in a minute though) my birth time, I think it doesn't have any sense to post any charts or anything as 99% of those things will be invalid, as they were in readings so far. Such mistake is "long enough" to switch the ascedents and put some planets near the house cusps, so even 5 minutes can play an important role there...

There is one Truth and it is that which we are all trying to describe. This means that there is a correct answer. It's all about working to find the correct answer in novel and creative ways. Whatever method is the most efficient and effective for getting the right answer is what should be employed.

I know the basics of interpretation and have rather proficient intuition at times, but I'm not going to charge for an interpretation that I can't guarantee is right. Granted, I know a lot of calculations and relationships, but most of what I have to tell you in the first place is that all of what happens in your life is ultimately your decision. I can show you how the paths fork and turn, but you're the one enjoying (or not) the ride. Success, failure, peace, love, malice, heaven, and hell are all yours for the making. Every time you do something, you're building something. Ultimately, you will be the only one who will have to live with what you build and it will be lonely in there if you don't include meaningful connections with people in your life.

I'm a student of psychology at a local university and I have seen plenty of evidence in the forms of behavioural analysis, cognitive analysis, even evolutionary analysis, all of which says that human beings possess the remarkable ability, to whatever extent it is used, to think abstractly and then create a change in the world around them, both individually and in groups, large and small. The data is there. Humans can be either programmed like animals or they can choose to think, an act which inevitably leads to creation when it is sufficiently reinforced. The big question in life is which one you'll be: herd animal or thinking human. Once you've answered that question, then you can decide what kind of person to be, which will invariably involve lots of trial and error.

Good luck with your search, Backy.

Thanks Mark