Mars Conjunct Saturn

JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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SunConjunctUranus said:
Sonma that's whole different thing with your natal chart, I found that dignity and debility more applied in sidereal so your saturn virgo is not exaltation.
If we using the sidereal, the OP's mars would be in Capricorn and that's what I mean her mars exalted.
And not to mention her ascendant could be Aries.
So the OP's mars would be very elevated in Capricorn 10th house.
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we are commenting on General Astrology board
so we may discuss Sidereal
fact is

we have no western sidereal board on our forum
we just have Vedic board - vedic astrology is sidereal
so reference to the chart of OP
using sidereal OPs Capricorn Mars is exalted
and
elevated in Capricorn sidereal 10th house :smile:
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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SunConjunctUranus said:
We know that planets are the action, and the way conversation in this thread goes, you should teach that to Sonma I guess. And I already said this:
so, venus, saturn, mars are in the 10H capricorn (whole sign), AND that so-called "stellium" are the enemy of her Aries Ascendant.

What I mean is saturn's nativity is in Capricorn and Aquarius.
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greybeard said:
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If what I say is applicable, apply it. If not, ignore it.

"Whole sign", when using the tropical zodiac, gives the triple conjunction (not a stellium by my definition)
position in Aquarius;

the planets are in Capricorn in the sidereal zodiac which is not "whole sign".
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using Sidereal, Mars, Saturn and Venus are all Assembled in Capricorn :smile:
furthermore
Capricorn IS the 10th Whole Sign House using Sidereal
 
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greybeard

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"Whole sign" is a system of house division. In common usage the whole sign in which the ascendant is posited is taken to comprise the first house.

Suppose we use the tropical zodiac and find the ascendent falls at
 
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greybeard

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"Whole sign" is a system of house division. In common usage the whole sign in which the ascendant is posited is taken to comprise the first house.

Suppose we use the tropical zodiac and find the ascendent falls at 8 Taurus. Using whole sign houses aquarius, naturally square taurus, holds the 10th.

If sidereal is used capricorn holds the 10th square the aries ascendent.

What is the fuss about?
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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greybeard said:
"Whole sign" is a system of house division.
In common usage the whole sign in which the ascendant
is posited is taken to comprise the first house. Suppose we use the tropical zodiac and find the ascendent falls at 8 Taurus.
Using whole sign houses aquarius, naturally square taurus, holds the 10th.
If sidereal is used capricorn holds the 10th square the aries ascendent.
 What is the fuss about?
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House location of a natal planet can change,
dependent on the house system chosen
easily verify that fact at astro.com's Extended Chart Selection Page
there, fourteen of the more popular house systems
currently in use are available options
Placidus is simply the default :smile:

to view how that works in practice
create natal chart using Whole Sign Houses option
then compare with the same natal chart using Placidus option
Whole Sign House ascendant sign becomes the whole first house
and the other houses follow.
The ASCENDANT POINT ITSELF can then fall anywhere in the first house
and
MIDHEAVEN POINT anywhere in the upper half of the chart
There are at least twenty or thirty different house systems
or means of dividing the so-called "birthchart"
into twelve segments of life activity.
In astrology, houses, mansions, or domains
represent general areas of life activity
and are the grounding areas or arenas of expression for planets.
Originally, the words "houses" and "signs" were interchangeable.
A planet in the SIGN of Aries
was also a planet in the HOUSE of Aries
so that in effect houses as we know them today did not exist
Artificial divisions now known as houses
were attempts by early Greeks and Hindus to measure strength "points" in the horoscope
which during 7th and 8th centuries AD were construed
or confused
as means of dividing the birth chart.
The ascendant and midheaven degrees and their opposites were definite power points
or areas of intense focus
but not necessarily the beginnings of a house or quadrant

The Whole Sign House system was used by the ancient Greeks
and the Hindus (who still use it today).
It is the oldest and simplest house system in existence
and immediately eliminates the awful mess
astrologers have made on the issue over the last 1300 years or so

WHOLE SIGNS http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42163
WHOLE SIGN OR PLACIDUS http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39669
 
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kshantaram

Premium Member
rebeccaxmichelle said:
Hi!
So I am interested in learning more about my mars conjunct Saturn in the 10th house of Aquarius.
I'm really interested in other aspect in my chart that might affect this (good or bad).
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hope helps pick and adapt as relevant, share-discuss feedbacks :

cap-sat 9th inimical-malefic for taurus asc,
stress-delays in luck-education-father-travels,

rahu NNode over inimical cap 9th, secular in religious matters;
stress-delays in foreign travels-pilgrimage, settling life at 42+

mars-venus-sat own acq lords 1/7/9 over 10th/11th,
growth-riches through mechatronics, innovation, public admin, entrepreneurship, etc
though under stress-delay sat being inimical for taurus asc;

mars lord 7th over 10th, supportive but dominant spouse;
sat lord 11th negating to 10th, negating friendships-relationship
though good for gains through career under stress-delay;
mars lord 12th over 10th, career issues/foreign career etc;
mars 10th aptitude for operations management, industrial engineering, etc

venus asc lord over 11th, gains through arts-dance-diamonds
-diamond polishing automatic-machinery, etc

previous 1.5yr ketu separative SNode transit sat-mars-venus acq 10/11,
detachment from income-gains-friendships-relationship, change in career-job;
pain-injury-surgery knees-legs-kidney inflammations etc;

ketu now heading towards natal rahu inimical cap 9th coming 1.5yr,
detachment from father, move to distant lands under stress-delay;
toxic pain-injury-surgery knees-thighs etc;

prayers to Christ, offer red flowers Mon evenings at the alter at home;
natal ketu Cancer 3rd, hyper-sensitive, accident prone;

sat coming 2.5yrs transit own inimical cap 9th,
luck-education-father-travels under stress-delay/gradual growth;
observe fast sat evenings taking milk-fruits or as per custom;

previous 2.5yrs sat transit sag 8th, negation of luck, career issues,
chronic health issues-urological/stones/piles etc;

jup now transit own sag 8th, philosophical explorations, sudden gains,
success amidst adversity; chronic liver issues etc;
prayers to saint of faith, offer yellow flowers wed evenings;
natal jup virgo 5th for advisory-audit-quality management roles;
jup lord 8/12 over 5th, heart-stomach-intestinal issues;


do ack promptly, share how true-insightful-helpful, traits-talents-health etc


wishing well, kshantaram
 
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