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No. Just the CURRENT Electoral College POTUS. Bill was impeached though. Bill was MUCH better on both the budget and the Environment, something Trump supporters appear to not even care about.
He saved us from that ridiculous Paris Accord Agreement, which many countries now regret signing.

It is very unfair to judge anything he has done as POTUS, because he has been governing with ENEMIES in the deep state, trying to vanquish him. He has the press, lying and opposing him on EVERYTHING, 24/7.

Even with the intel agencies trying to paint him to be a Russian Spy and the press calling him treasonous, he has still had some major accomplishments.

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He saved us from that ridiculous Paris Accord Agreement, which many countries now regret signing.

It is very unfair to judge anything he has done as POTUS, because he has been governing with ENEMIES in the deep state, trying to vanquish him. He has the press, lying and opposing him on EVERYTHING, 24/7.

Even with the intel agencies trying to paint him to be a Russian Spy and the press calling him treasonous, he has still had some major accomplishments.
If you have contempt for the Clintons on morality issues, you should have at least as much contempt for Trump. And, the "deep state" isn't forcing him to double or even triple the Deficit or to attempt to degrade our Environment.
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Do you really want one administration to bring the entire intel community out to try and set up fake dossiers and phony accusations, leak the fake info to the press, and try to ruin the next administration, as revenge?
Show the recorded proofs of those claims. The legal ones proven and declared so in a court of law.
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Show the recorded proofs of those claims. The legal ones proven and declared so in a court of law.
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Published 1 day ago on Dec 16, 2018
EMAILS Reveal Obama Admin’s Push To Create Russia Scandal Hours Before Trump’s Inauguration

EMAILS Reveal Obama Admin’s Push To Create Russia Scandal Hours Before Trump’s Inauguration

Newly released emails show the Obama administration scrambling to create the “Russia” scandal within 24 hours of President Donald Trump taking the oath of office in January 2017. The desperation of the Obama administration is evident in the emails, in which the Obama team tries to involve Democratic senators Warner and Cardin and Republican senator Corker in the plot.


Judicial Watch, which obtained the emails in a Freedom of Information Act case, reports:

“In a Thursday, January 5, 2017, email chain then-State Department Congressional Advisor Hera Abassi indicates that then-Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland’s bureau was attempting to get Russian investigation related documents to the office of Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) office as quickly as possible. (In June 2016 Nuland permitted a meeting between Steele and the FBI’s legal attaché in Rome. Nuland told CBS News that the State Department knew about the Steele dossier by July 2016.)



https://bigleaguepolitics.com/expose...urricane-plot/


EXPOSED: Fusion GPS and Natalia Played Key Role In Crossfire Hurricane Plot



WASHINGTON — A confederacy of conspirators ran an operation to get inside Trump Tower for a meeting with Don Trump Jr. that could be used to obtain FISA warrants on Trump Tower to surveil the current president and his team. The conspirators worked for Fusion GPS, which was funded by Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the Democratic National Committee, and the neoconservative wing of the Republican Party.

James Comey’s friend, Columbia University professor Daniel Richman, leaked classified information that Comey gave him. During this leaking period, Richman was apartment-building neighbors with a partner at the law firm that strategized with Fusion GPS operative Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian plant who set up Don Jr. in Trump Tower.

Veselnitskaya and Fusion GPS, led by Glenn Simpson, were part of John Brennan and Peter Strzok’s CIA-led “Operation Crossfire Hurricane” plot aimed at President Donald Trump and the Trump campaign.

Cozen O’Connor managing partner Howard Schweitzer is listed here on a DOJ form from an investigation into the breaking of lobbying laws by Russians trying to repeal the Magnitsky Act — which was just a front to get Russians in the room with Don Jr. It turns out that Natalia Veselnitskaya was actually operating out of the Cozen O’Connor offices.




http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/25/...a-cover-story/

CORRUPTION

How The Code Name ‘Crossfire Hurricane’ Undermines The FBI’s Russia Story

The code name “Crossfire Hurricane” is therefore most likely a reference to the former British spy whose allegedly Russian-sourced reports on the Trump team’s alleged ties to Russia were used as evidence to secure a Foreign Intelligence Service Act secret warrant on Trump adviser Carter Page in October 2016: ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele.

Helping Spin a New Origin Story
It is hardly surprising that the Times refrained from exploring the meaning of the code name. The paper of record has apparently joined a campaign, spearheaded by the Department of Justice, FBI, and political operatives pushing the Trump-Russia collusion story, to minimize Steele’s role in the Russia investigation.

After an October news report showed his dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee, facts that further challenged the credibility of Steele’s research, the FBI investigation’s origin story shifted.

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https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exclus...court-justice/

EXCLUSIVE TEXTS: Clapper Plotted To Stop Trump’s Inauguration Using A Supreme Court Justice

WASHINGTON — Obama administration Director of National Intelligence James Clapper held a meeting in his last days in office to discuss the idea of going to a Supreme Court justice to block President Donald Trump’s inauguration, according to a high-level member of the intelligence community who spoke with a Big League Politics source.

Clapper discussed blocking the inauguration on the grounds that Trump was an illegitimate president due to alleged Russian interference in the election, according to the sources. It is not known whether Clapper ever actually convened a meeting with a Supreme Court justice to discuss the Russia case, or whether he simply discussed the idea of doing so. By the time Trump entered office on January 20, the Russia narrative was already underway.

A high-level member of the intelligence community who witnessed the meeting said that Clapper discussed going to one of three female Supreme Court justices to make the case that alleged Russian interference could invalidate Trump’s claim to the presidency.



ALL OF THE ABOVE ARTICLES ARE BASED UPON RETRIEVED TEXTS, SENT TO JOURNALISTS BY FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO COURT CASES YET BECAUSE THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO TEXTED HAVE THE DOJ UNDER THEIR CONTROL.

But they are being outed and revealed by these retrieved texts and by various whistleblowers.
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THERE HAVE BEEN NO COURT CASES YET ...
So with all of their uh, evidence, there haven't even been any indictments by Rethugs in spite of the fact that they had control of the both houses of Congress, the presidency, and favorable appointees in greater numbers on the SC.

Anyone can say anything they want - like the remaining part of the above quote: "BECAUSE THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO TEXTED HAVE THE DOJ UNDER THEIR CONTROL." And like the pResident has been proven to do many, many times when he has spouted proven untruths; and the same ones repeatedly not just a one time slip.

NBC News: President Donald Trump Likely Faced Indictment But For Presidency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7q3tdko8ok

As soon as he knew the Democrats would have control of the House of Representatives starting in January tRump fired Jeff Sessions immediately (the day after the elections) and appointed Mathew Whitaker to head the DOJ bypassing Rod Rosenstein.

Whitaker has headed the DOJ for 6 weeks and hasn't issued even 1 indictment. With all that 'evidence' not even trying to slow down, much less stop, any action by the incoming Democratic majority in the House. We will see if they issue any indictments.
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Actually it does prove him innocent. He is innocent, until proven guilty of wrongdoing. Not the other way around. And this is the problem with the people on this thread, that they are trashing on Trump with no evidence at all. Yes there is a rumor that Trump did this, and investigations that branch off and investigate that. So far, nothing. Saying that "oh well, but they will, they will find something" is not evidence.



He is the best leader you've had in a long time, because he is the first leader that is doing whats best for american citizens. Obama's skin color has nothing to do with the issue, because Obama was not running against Trump. Is he perfect? no, and yes there are a lot of things that Trump should do better.

But to claim the usual NPC dialog of racism, hatred, etc. just makes your side look petty. Some real arguments would be welcome. You know, something of substance.
I said that if he is guilty of crimes but he isn't indicted ONLY because he is a sitting president, that doesn't make him innocent. And it doesn't. In fact, that's what impeachment is for, to depose a sitting president who isn't fit to run the country. I hope they don't do it over him paying off his pornstar whores, but they certainly could if they wanted. I hope they wait for the bigger stuff to come out. And yes, I do predict there will be much bigger wrongdoing proven in court, and no, I do not feel compelled to trot out the evidence myself. That's what the top police in the country are for, to investigate crimes. They have done so and are making court filings. It's real, unlike all those conspiracy theory memes people like to post.

Why do I think he's guilty of collusion with Russia? His behavior. He made Flynn National Security Advisor despite warnings from the Obama administration that Flynn was known to be compromised by Russia. He ignored repeated warnings about that and didn't get rid of him until forced to do so by bad press. He has sucked up to Putin at every turn like a fawning school boy with a crush. He has refused to accept the findings of the CIA, FBI, and the rest of the intelligence community that Russia meddled in the election. He has refused to take action against Russia or even say anything negative about them for their invasions into Crimea and Ukraine. He has repeatedly insulted and bullied our allies while sucking up to dictators and countries hostile to the US. This weakens our position in the world. He got pissed off at Jeff Sessions for rightly recusing himself from the Russia investigation, and despite warnings from everyone that it would look like obstruction of justice to fire him for that, he eventually did so anyway.

It is clear to me from his behavior that Putin has him by the balls. Is there a peepee tape? Is there evidence of him offering influence for money or to get to build one of his precious towers? I dunno. I am waiting to find out what they have over him. It's dangerous and disgraceful. We have no idea what state secrets are Putin's now because of this presidency and how that may harm us and/or our allies down the line.

I know that this is the punishment for a black president. I grew up where Trump's base lives. I know these rednecks quite well. I heard them call black people the N-word, refer to Muslims as "towel-heads" and Mexicans as "wetbacks" and say horrible things about women, so no, I don't believe them when they get on Facebook and say they aren't racist and sexist. They're liars, and this is who Trump and the silent Republicans who ought to know better are feeding.
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Overwhelming upcoming astrology for tRump favors those on the Left.

In the real world:

tRump's message - Wah!! Wah!! I will hurt people if I don't get my way. More of tRump's great leadership.

Americans' message to Washington on the looming shutdown: Don't

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...te/2334326002/

Poll: Americans overwhelmingly oppose a government shutdown, and they're inclined to blame President Trump and the GOP.


Susan Page and Bill Theobald, USA TODAY Published 7:57 a.m. ET Dec. 17, 2018

WASHINGTON — Americans have a clear message to Washington as the government hurtles toward a partial shutdown on Friday: Don't.

By a double-digit margin, 54 percent to 29 percent, those surveyed in a new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll say they oppose the shutdown that President Trump has threatened if Congress doesn't agree to his demand for $5 billion in funding for a border wall.

Who would bear the blame?

By nearly 2-1, Americans would blame Trump and the Republicans, not congressional Democrats.

Buh bye!

Joe: Poll Numbers On Donald Trump's Vision Are 'Shocking' | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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This is a state investigation that tRump cannot stop. Panic seems evident.

Donald Trump Sounds Like Mobster, Uses 'Rat' To Describe Michael Cohen | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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There's no sense wasting time on the topic of impeachment of the Popular-vote President, since there's no federal, Constitutional power involved. It's the Electoral-vote President who's in the hotseat.
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Just realized something: The extreme right-wing has hijacked the Republican Party. It used to include moderate and liberal Republicans. It also claims to be Conservative, which used to stand for fiscal responsibility and moral behavior, as well as conserving the Wilderness. Now, the right-wing Trump-supporters are CINOs. And, they're not even true Republicans. They're Trumpublicans.

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I said that if he is guilty of crimes but he isn't indicted ONLY because he is a sitting president, that doesn't make him innocent. And it doesn't. In fact, that's what impeachment is for, to depose a sitting president who isn't fit to run the country. I hope they don't do it over him paying off his pornstar whores, but they certainly could if they wanted. I hope they wait for the bigger stuff to come out. And yes, I do predict there will be much bigger wrongdoing proven in court, and no, I do not feel compelled to trot out the evidence myself. That's what the top police in the country are for, to investigate crimes. They have done so and are making court filings. It's real, unlike all those conspiracy theory memes people like to post.

Why do I think he's guilty of collusion with Russia? His behavior. He made Flynn National Security Advisor despite warnings from the Obama administration that Flynn was known to be compromised by Russia. He ignored repeated warnings about that and didn't get rid of him until forced to do so by bad press. He has sucked up to Putin at every turn like a fawning school boy with a crush. He has refused to accept the findings of the CIA, FBI, and the rest of the intelligence community that Russia meddled in the election. He has refused to take action against Russia or even say anything negative about them for their invasions into Crimea and Ukraine. He has repeatedly insulted and bullied our allies while sucking up to dictators and countries hostile to the US. This weakens our position in the world. He got pissed off at Jeff Sessions for rightly recusing himself from the Russia investigation, and despite warnings from everyone that it would look like obstruction of justice to fire him for that, he eventually did so anyway.

It is clear to me from his behavior that Putin has him by the balls. Is there a peepee tape? Is there evidence of him offering influence for money or to get to build one of his precious towers? I dunno. I am waiting to find out what they have over him. It's dangerous and disgraceful. We have no idea what state secrets are Putin's now because of this presidency and how that may harm us and/or our allies down the line.

I know that this is the punishment for a black president. I grew up where Trump's base lives. I know these rednecks quite well. I heard them call black people the N-word, refer to Muslims as "towel-heads" and Mexicans as "wetbacks" and say horrible things about women, so no, I don't believe them when they get on Facebook and say they aren't racist and sexist. They're liars, and this is who Trump and the silent Republicans who ought to know better are feeding.
He has actually taken a tougher stance on Russia and Putin than previous presidents, by increasing military action on Russia's interests and that of its allies.

Regarding the whole "collusion" nonsense, what happened was that Russia spread information about Hillary Clinton's corruption, either through facebook, twitter, wikileaks, etc. That isn't illegal. And that has nothing to do with Trump, and there is no evidence so far that he was involved in it. And even if his campaign was, its illegality is still debatable. The russians did not "hack" your election. They spread propaganda which the american people chose to believe. And that is it. In a similar manner, Canada and different european goverments, different international groups spread a vilification campaign against Trump, in television. How is that different from the Russian issue? It isn't.

How is Hollywood celebrities backed by European countries spreading political propaganda before the election, not exactly the same as russians spreading propaganda before the election? Had Hillary won, would you be pushing for an investigation regarding who funded the hollywood campaigns against Trump? You probably wouldn't.

As for praising Putin, and "trashing" allies. He is merely making a point: harvesting a good diplomatic relation with Russia isn't a bad thing for the U.S. Its also not a bad thing to make it clear to NATO members that they should contribute more. And lets be realistic here: most "allies" have been taking advantage and criticising the U.S. for a while now.
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Obama was elected twice and control of the House of Representatives was taken from Rethuglicans in a massive rejection of their policies in the midterm elections just held. The voting public has awakened to their failure to lead effectively.

GOP campaign promises:
Reduce or eliminate the deficit - they have done just the opposite.
Build a wall on the border with Mexico - in their dreams but not in real life.
Obama lost 63 seats in 2010 midterms, more than any other president, when idiots who voted for him realized he was hopeless and there would be no change. Politics as usual. Remember his promise "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. It will be a lot cheaper, too!:

Trump actually gained senate seats which is unheard of. Important because the Senate confirms judges all over the country. The Senate also amends bills sent over by the House. There are hundreds of bills from the Repub controlled House that will most likely be confirmed next year by the Repub Senate. They didn't have enough votes in the last two years.

Look at the Russia hoax perpetrated by the Demonrats because they are poor losers. Weaponized Obama intelligence services tried to overthrow a sitting president! Banana republic!

Deficit is being offset by companies doing much better and more people working = increase in taxes paid.

Few Dems and Reps want to keep out illegals because they want their votes and they want cheap labor which drives down US worker wages. They also hate Trump so anything Trump wants they want the opposite. Trump should use reverse psychology on them!

Your news is censored so either watch Fox, listen to Rush, or read the long llist of Trump's accomplishments here http://www.magapill.com/
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Trump actually gained senate seats which is unheard of. Important because the Senate confirms judges all over the country. The Senate also amends bills sent over by the House. There are hundreds of bills from the Repub controlled House that will most likely be confirmed next year by the Repub Senate. They didn't have enough votes in the last two years.
Not to mention the obvious irregularities within some districts were democrats clearly won by cheating, through magical ballot boxes that kept appearing. But that is another story that we shouldn't talk about, to prevent unnecessary triggering.
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He has actually taken a tougher stance on Russia and Putin than previous presidents, by increasing military action on Russia's interests and that of its allies.
How so? The only thing I can think of that we've done that could possibly be considered going against a Russian military interest was bombing Syria, which was so limited it did nothing to change the situation except kill a few souls.


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Regarding the whole "collusion" nonsense, what happened was that Russia spread information about Hillary Clinton's corruption, either through facebook, twitter, wikileaks, etc. That isn't illegal. And that has nothing to do with Trump, and there is no evidence so far that he was involved in it. And even if his campaign was, its illegality is still debatable. The russians did not "hack" your election. They spread propaganda which the american people chose to believe. And that is it. In a similar manner, Canada and different european governments, different international groups spread a vilification campaign against Trump, in television. How is that different from the Russian issue? It isn't.
It is very much illegal in this country for foreign agents to pose as Americans and spread propaganda to influence our elections. That's why there are Russians who have been charged with conspiracy.

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How is Hollywood celebrities backed by European countries spreading political propaganda before the election, not exactly the same as russians spreading propaganda before the election? Had Hillary won, would you be pushing for an investigation regarding who funded the hollywood campaigns against Trump? You probably wouldn't.
Individual citizens can support any candidate or position they wish whether they are famous for not. It's protected speech. "Supported by European governments?" It's not the left's fault that we have all the best musicians, entertainers, and artists in our camp.

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As for praising Putin, and "trashing" allies. He is merely making a point: harvesting a good diplomatic relation with Russia isn't a bad thing for the U.S. Its also not a bad thing to make it clear to NATO members that they should contribute more. And lets be realistic here: most "allies" have been taking advantage and criticizing the U.S. for a while now.


Kowtowing to a power hungry, chest-beating man like Putin does nothing but make Trump look like a giant wimp, a lapdog, a dummy. I bet Putin laughs his butt off after every encounter. I would like to see us have a better relationship with Russia, but not while the Russian government is actively trying to influence American elections.

The way Trump has spoken about and to our allies is not statesman-like. Allies are allowed to criticize and argue and to hold one another to agreements and common standards. In fact, they should. But they must also be respectful.

Whoopsie: I edited a little of your post because I thought it was mine. I capitalized European, then uncapitalized it when I realized what I did. I don't think I changed anything else...didn't mean to be shady.

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For anyone who wants to know what is actually happening in real courts instead of in memes.

https://www.wired.com/story/mueller-...omplete-guide/

Flynn's sentencing hearing started yesterday but has been postponed, and the federal judge presiding over his case suggested that what he has done is treason.
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How so? The only thing I can think of that we've done that could possibly be considered going against a Russian military interest was bombing Syria, which was so limited it did nothing to change the situation except kill a few souls.
He increased sanctions against Russia for the invasion of crimea, and has sold weapons to the Ukraine to counter the russian invasion. He has publicly denounced Russia on the oil prices, the invasion, and some other things.

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It is very much illegal in this country for foreign agents to pose as Americans and spread propaganda to influence our elections. That's why there are Russians who have been charged with conspiracy.

Individual citizens can support any candidate or position they wish whether they are famous for not. It's protected speech. "Supported by European governments?" It's not the left's fault that we have all the best musicians, entertainers, and artists in our camp.

Kowtowing to a power hungry, chest-beating man like Putin does nothing but make Trump look like a giant wimp, a lapdog, a dummy. I bet Putin laughs his butt off after every encounter. I would like to see us have a better relationship with Russia, but not while the Russian government is actively trying to influence American elections.
Actually it is not illegal if they don't reside in the U.S. because your jurisdiction doesn't extend to twitter accounts created in another country. If someone creates an account on twitter, his actions fall into the legal spectrum of the country in which he resides, despite whatever legal-junk TOS he "agreed" to when he signed-up (which by the way, those are only legal binding if the law of the country in which they are agreed on says so; and they can still be contested in the country's court of law, regardless of the laws of the U.S.). There is no restriction for individuals sharing information over the internet. At most your goverment can sanction the company within the territory of your country, but they can't sanction people from reading messages.

I'm not talking about the spokesperson that may have delivered the pro-Hillary speeches, but the foreign powers that may have funded it. If I take your view on things, then by analogy, you would consider that just as bad. I mean, if the saudi royal family "donated" money to Hillary at the height of her campaign, then by logic you would seek an investigation regarding that, wouldn't you? In a similar manner, if certain european groups funded pro-Hillary campaing rallies, advertising, etc.. that would also be bad?

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The way Trump has spoken about and to our allies is not statesman-like. Allies are allowed to criticize and argue and to hold one another to agreements and common standards. In fact, they should. But they must also be respectful.
First of all, your allies have been more disrespectful towards him and you than he has been to them, such as when the president of France saying he needed an army to protect from the U.S. (which is by implication, a threat of war).

Second, what has Trump said that its so offensive? The only thing he told them is that they should put down the money they had agreed to contribute to NATO, which they have not. He has also said somethings about trade agreements that should benefit the americans, but never did he say anything bad about the countries. At most, he might have said something specifically about the country leader, which is different. In your view:

Trump is bad = talks about money and trade agreements
Macron is good(?) = talks about creating an army to combat the U.S.

Is that logical?
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On the day transit Saturn is conjunct the MC (3rd and final pass in 2019) of my natal for Putin in St Petersburg:

Jared Kushner – Noon Chart Jan 10, 1981, 12:00 pm, EST +5:00 White House Dist of Columbia 38°N53’50” 077°W02’13”

Sun 20°Cp23’09”

Transits Nov 4 2019 – Noon Chart Nov 4 2019, 12:00 pm, EST +5:00 White House Dist of Columbia 38°N53’50” 077°W02’13”

Mars 20°Li25’44”
Pluto 20°Cp53’32”

Plus transit Mars at 199°10′ is on natal Saturn/Pluto midpoint at 199°18′.

January 2020 coming right up.
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More info in the below linked post.

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...88&postcount=1

"My chart for Putin was made on April 23, 2014 (actually was first made in 2012), more than a year before tRump announced his candidacy and I found the January 13, 2020, conjunction of Sun, Saturn, and Pluto at 294°42' and 294°45."

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...&postcount=261

"The Sun (294°42′), Saturn (294°42'), and Pluto (294°45′) on January 13, 2020.

George Washington's inauguration secondary progressed Sun/Pluto midpoint at 294°14' on Jan 13, 2020

trump's natal Saturn 115°43' is opposite

trump’s progressed inauguration MC at 293°28' (add 1 degree the next day)

Nixon’s natal White House IC at 295°51'

Richard M Nixon resigns as President, the MC of that chart is 114°27′ (IC is at 294°27′)

Watergate arrest’s Zenith at 294°22'

Watergate arrest’s Mars opposite at 114°48'

JFK secondary progressed Sun at assassination opposite at 114°01'

Noon chart for Mercer has a Sun/Saturn midpoint at 114°48′ opposite 294°48′

Bannon on Jan 13, 2020. His secondary progressed Neptune will be at 204°47′ – squared by 90°

Republican party secondary progressed Mars on Jan 13, 2020 at 294°18'
trump jr. has secondary progressed Mars (in longitude) on his papa’s Saturn

My Putin MC in Moscow (chart made in 2012) 294°19'

Except for The Washington and JFK charts all of them are connected to right wing people or events.

Charts related to the presidency from 1789 - Washington's inauguration, 1946 - trump's birth, 1972 - several Watergate points, and the 2017 inauguration, coming to or originally involving a common point at 294 degrees on January 13th, 2020, with three transiting bodies held by that same degree on that day. It might mean something related to the presidency term that began on January 20, 2017."
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Normally wouldn't post something like this in here, but yesterday Ben Shapiro pretty much nailed the problem. I think I linked that properly: https://youtu.be/Bl-sIVCJ1DI?t=580

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He increased sanctions against Russia for the invasion of crimea, and has sold weapons to the Ukraine to counter the russian invasion. He has publicly denounced Russia on the oil prices, the invasion, and some other things.



Actually it is not illegal if they don't reside in the U.S. because your jurisdiction doesn't extend to twitter accounts created in another country. If someone creates an account on twitter, his actions fall into the legal spectrum of the country in which he resides, despite whatever legal-junk TOS he "agreed" to when he signed-up (which by the way, those are only legal binding if the law of the country in which they are agreed on says so; and they can still be contested in the country's court of law, regardless of the laws of the U.S.). There is no restriction for individuals sharing information over the internet. At most your goverment can sanction the company within the territory of your country, but they can't sanction people from reading messages.

I'm not talking about the spokesperson that may have delivered the pro-Hillary speeches, but the foreign powers that may have funded it. If I take your view on things, then by analogy, you would consider that just as bad. I mean, if the saudi royal family "donated" money to Hillary at the height of her campaign, then by logic you would seek an investigation regarding that, wouldn't you? In a similar manner, if certain european groups funded pro-Hillary campaing rallies, advertising, etc.. that would also be bad?



First of all, your allies have been more disrespectful towards him and you than he has been to them, such as when the president of France saying he needed an army to protect from the U.S. (which is by implication, a threat of war).

Second, what has Trump said that its so offensive? The only thing he told them is that they should put down the money they had agreed to contribute to NATO, which they have not. He has also said somethings about trade agreements that should benefit the americans, but never did he say anything bad about the countries. At most, he might have said something specifically about the country leader, which is different. In your view:

Trump is bad = talks about money and trade agreements
Macron is good(?) = talks about creating an army to combat the U.S.

Is that logical?
You're just making a series of bad analogies, comparing unlike things.
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i don't think drumpf will be impeached... as he allegedly said, he could shoot some one on the street and not be prosecuted.
with nancy pelosi asarty whip, she will not push for impeachment because of the possibility of drumpf bringinig out the skeletons in her closet that will show pelosi's political start, just as dianne feinstein's,came because they both participated in he coverup of the cia's invovement with the drug motivated assassinations of mayor george moscone and supervisor harvey milk back in 1978.

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reply #5drumpf's a mobster ,going back to his involvement with rpy cohn in the 70's and 80's.they all knew about this.
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Normally wouldn't post something like this in here, but yesterday Ben Shapiro pretty much nailed the problem. I think I linked that properly: https://youtu.be/Bl-sIVCJ1DI?t=580
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