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Hi everybody, so this is my first threat. I am really interested in astrology but i am new so i doubt about my ability to interpret a natal chart. I know that you guys have much more experience than me so please tell me more about my life, my love,my career, anything I will appreciate. Will I have a dump life? or maybe will I get a lil luck later cuz rite now I feel sometimes desperate
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Hi everybody, so this is my first threat. I am really interested in astrology but i am new so i doubt about my ability to interpret a natal chart. I know that you guys have much more experience than me so please tell me more about my life, my love,my career, anything I will appreciate. Will I have a dump life? or maybe will I get a lil luck later cuz rite now I feel sometimes desperate
Welcome to AW,

You can get an immediate chart interpretation from astro.com. From ‘free horoscopes tab look for free 'personal portrait' interpretation of a natal chart in the free horoscope section, you simply put the cursor on a planet and it brings a pop up box to explain what it means to have a planet in that house and any other aspects it has to natal planets. plus a six month free transit report in 'short report' Robert Hand gives a valuable in depth explanation of transits here – only slight objection I have with astro, is they use orbs of upto maybe 10' approaching, exact and departing. So most transits seem very long in effect. I use more realistic orbs of 1' approaching, 1' exact and 1' departing.
http://www.khaldea.com/ephemcenter.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42496

here is my favourite online ephemeris which plots where the planets are for hundreds of years...


Astrology can explain lots of things, especially regarding your personality, traits etc but it's entirely upto YOU to make changes in your life, you are the captin of your ship no-one else. Knowing astrology is not going to change you or do this for you! We all have to go through rough transits, to learn and to grow as a person, so in that regard you are no different...

Welcome to the World of Astrology!
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14561

Re: Need some education: Which charts to use when?
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17514

Beginning to Study Astrology
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=154469&postcount=10
http://www.soulhealing.com/tutorialwest.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-lessons.php
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrology
http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/#continue
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http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natalastrology.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-lessons.php
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/inner-outer.php
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/tutorial.htm

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what members like to see in a thread – help forum
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perhaps you were not aware about the *simple* question you are asking, is NOT simply indeed could take a member a fair amount of time to tackly just one question. We are all volunteers here, giving our knowledge and time freely....

you have a bucket chart with moon as handle....

Bucket chart
http://www.myastrologybook.com/Bucket-planetary-pattern-astrology.htm
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/bucket.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astrology#Aspect_patterns
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/funnel.html
http://www.astrococktail.com/planetaryorderIII.html

stelliums in houses
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418162943AA1TzLE
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/stellium_grandquintile.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33102
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/a-few-last-insights-into-stelliums-from-readers/

How to find your career- sticky in Vocational Forum
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32775
please give some background ie: education, aspirations, options

Relationship sticky
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28945
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=254409&postcount=9
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Re: Is my life suck?? stellium in 11th house please help me!!!

your chart lacks the element of fire, drive, energy, impetus etc.

Lack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm

http://www.nanceestar.com/elements.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=319747&posted=1#post319747
Fire Absence
The limited presence of the Fire element in your horoscope may suggest the need to experience life more actively. It may benefit you to become more vital, for you may lack the passion and spark that the fire signs afford. This doesn't mean that you don't enjoy life, but merely that you don't seem to know how to insert yourself into the action; pleasure, thrills and glory will be slow coming your way. Your pleasures are apt to be more subtle and sensitive, without the dramatics and flash. Although this void does not guarantee an introvert, you are not likely to be the extrovert. You lack the dare-devil courage of the fire signs, and this includes the utter self-confidence these signs bestow
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html#Fire%20Absence

you should also research pluto conj MC - Midheaven

planets conj MC
http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html
http://www.skyviewzone.com/articles/asrticle3sc.htm
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Thanks for all information. I find it very helpful but can you explain more for me the position of saturn and chiron in my chart? it is in my 1st and 7th house which is very groom I feel like sometimes I think too much and its often negative. Does it mean I will have a tought marriage in the future? thanks for sharing
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Thanks for all information. I find it very helpful but can you explain more for me the position of saturn and chiron in my chart? it is in my 1st and 7th house which is very groom I feel like sometimes I think too much and its often negative. Does it mean I will have a tought marriage in the future? thanks for sharing
saturn is in the first, which may knock your confidence, espec in childhood.

Chiron in 7th suggests wounds but also healing. maybe great at advising friends and family how to make relationships work, but not great at taking your own advices...

Chiron thread
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9786
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11976

Further discussions on AW and links from this thread….
http://www.moonsweb.com/ast/chiron.shtml
http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html

http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm
http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm
http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&l r=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as _maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO#v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=fals e

"Saturn’s" influence seems to be more obvious in the houses than in the signs ‑ can rule the life with an iron rod, although invisible, by undermining the sense of ­self‑worth and making it difficult for the individual to permit any close emotional contacts.

Saturn's sign indicates what you find uncomfortable and must learn to manage.

Where and how you feel a lack of confidence -- the house position of Saturn defines where you need to establish your skills, an issue you worry about and wish you could depend on !

Saturn in the 1st house
· Gives the willpower to finish off jobs. You may take life and yourself seriously, but with dignity. Good sense of justice and will be able to lead others and make plans for them.
· You will seldom speak or act without a definite purpose.
· You make a loyal friend. Always want value for money.
· Never get fat or drunk because of pride.
· Don't like throwing things away. May well be a horder
· If Saturn is conjunct the Ascendant the birth could have been difficult one: the soul was reluctant to come in. This position gives early maturity: the person is born "old" and gets younger in attitude as he grows older.
· Shy and introverted. Makes an early start in life.
· Needs to cultivate self confidence and a sense of their own worth.
· Ability to work hard and through determination, persistence and self-control can achieve success in life.
· Early life was probably austere and disciplined and not apt to have a feeling of being loved in the early part of life.
· There can be great deal of selfishness and self-centredness if Saturn is afflicted.
· Instinctively conservative and sensitive to the restrictions of authority and their environment.
· Some meet failure at every turn, while others achieve success by sheer hard work and dedication. To succeed they need to develop a sense of inner authority and ­self‑discipline.
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Oh yeah, I should already know about that annoying Saturn , it makes me feel depressed quite often. Uhmm, so it is supposed that I have to make self-discipline to succeed in life ? Cuz for me everything always comes out paradoxical, like on surface I behave in a very appropriate and adamant manner but at the same time, deep down I try to break that obligation and enjoy it very much Even at home, I do not try to keep its cover and live the way I like. Why does it happen? Also I dont have a habit to keep touch with my old friend. I mean I am friendly and all but I just dont want to contact with them and most of my friends are like strangers who pass me by after a certain time. I only have a few really closed friends in my life. Is it becuz the stellium in the 11th house (aquarius house) that makes me aloof ???
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Re: Is my life suck?? stellium in 11th house please help me!!!

Firstly, everyone in their teens (or almost everyone I have known) believes that their life can suck occasionally.

You have a very powerful chart - 6 planets are in Capricorn. You need to read everything you can about your Capricorn planets, as they will help you deal with all the obstacles your life is bound to throw at you.

All your close personal planets are forming a very close orb in Capricorn in the 11th house. yes, this would make you very private - one who prefers to keep themselves at a distance from others. Added to this, your Aquarius ascendant will further keep you living in your head (rather than your heart.) Aquarius is ruled by Uranus, and you have that also in Capricorn, and very close to Neptune in your 12th house. I'd suggest you read about Neptune and Uranus in the 12th on this page - it will help you understand this conjunction better:
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoun...rmaHouse12.htm
While you are still so young, you may express your Uranus in sudden and unexpected bursts of rebellion, or craziness, but you will eventually grow out of this, because it doesn't do you any good to be this way.

Your Moon in Gemini in the 4th house is a bit of a mixed bag. You like to talk, laugh, have fun (that's the Gemini) but there are most likely restrictions in your home and family which prevent you from being too out-going (that's the 4th house). Your Moon is also quite poorly aspected (i.e. it is not in `relation' to many other parts of your chart) so you may have a lot of difficulty in figuring out your own true emotions. Life is long, so you have plenty of time for working on this.

As you grow older you will be able to better work together with the two (or more) parts of your personality - the serious and careful, private part, and the I-want-to-have-fun part.
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Goshh, nothing can be better than this. This is very useful post,thank you a lot R4ven I am kinda surprised, I mean b4 that, I read a whole bunch of things and attempted to grasp my chart as much but yeah,its like the more I tried to figure out, the more I got stuck I can tell you how much I hate the neptune in my 12th house. All of my teacher always said "She is very smart but if she had focused 100% on her work, her result would have been improved a lot" and its true cuz I daydream a lottttt

Seem like I am in the hopeless position cuz my most desire is to blend with my friends and become closed to them. I always look at other people's lives and feel envy I wonder how come they feel so happy and enjoy their accompanies. I have many acquaintances and I am the one who initially come talk to people first cuz I join in lots of clubs and social events. However, to have more personal relations like friends who can hang out and talk when you need is definitely impossible for me. Even when they want to do that and I am crave for that, I am naturally back off and cautious, like a warning immediately comes out my mind" Be cafeful, do not cross the line!!" Same as my relations with my relatives .That makes sense in my life - a loner who stands in her own island !!!!
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That makes sense in my life - a loner who stands in her own island !!!!
Looking closer at your chart I notice sun is within minutes of mars, closer than combust, called cazami...

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If it's within 17 minutes of the Sun, it's cazimi.
Basically what happens in cazimi is the planet is considered to be 'sitting in the lap of the king' and is given great power.

If it's further than that, and up to 8-1/2 degrees away, it's combust, even if it's in a different sign.

From 8-1/2 to 15 degrees away it's under the beams, which means it's slightly weakened, but not as much as combustion would weaken it.

In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun, so will always act in service to the Sun - which is likely to come with one great gift.


Merc/Sun combust is often the sign of a very good writer, for example, but one can get awfully caught up in one's own opinions to the point of not listening to others, Venus combust in Taurus is often the guy who can bed just about any woman but can't establish a permanent relationship, Venus combust in Libra is often a gorgeous woman trapped in a miserable marriage, and so forth.
Jupiter could give wealth, make you a good barrister or a judge, possibly fame, but you might be awfully pompous.


Combust planets for women (any planet) seem to be bad for marriage as a rule, though it doesn't seem to hold true quite so much for men, though it depends on the planet, and I'd definitely still look at it.

A good tutorial on cazimi versus combustion is the Book or Scroll of Ester (which may or may not be in your bible depending on what version you've got). Consider Ester to be cazimi, and a whole lot of other folks in the story combust (even Haman goes combust eventually!). Read in that light you might get a whole new appreciation of biblical literature as well.

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“For technical purposes, in Western astrology, most ancient and medieval authorities considered a planet combust or burnt when its position was within 5-8 degrees on either side of the Sun. However, a planet will continue to be weakened by the Sun until it has elongated by 15-17 degrees from it. (Lilly says 17 degrees on p. 113 of Christian Astrology.) This positioning is said to be under the beams of the Sun, and although it may be stronger than being combust, it will still cause a noticeable weakening in a planet's effectiveness.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)

“Venus combust may take away the strength to achieve, but when in a particularly close conjunction with the Sun it produces the condition sometimes termed nymphomania. Mars combust is always the man who fights for what he wants; and so with each planet according to its intrinsic nature.
Wilson says "there seems manifest a difference in genius and propensities of natives, according to the distance of their Mercury from the Sun; and that those whose Mercury is combust have little wit or solid judgment, though they will persevere in business and frequently with good success.”
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/combust.php
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So this conjunction will modified lots the sun's expression into something more aggressive wilful

Cazimi/combust
“So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)

Your are fixed on both angles ie; Asc and MC and moon is singleton ie: only planet in 'mutuable' element...

Having chart ruler uranus, stuck in 12th is not great and again suggests you will need time alone to commune.

11th house is not just the house of friendships, but groups, large organisations and *hopes and wishes* Problem with 11th house is Aquarius uranus likes it's space, is not into touchy touchy feely feely and doesn't want clinging vines for friends, or friends that make too many demands. Keywoards, you need friends but also the freedom and indpendence from the at times to...

Plus there is a strong Cappi feel of this stellium and cappi always wants value for money and can use friends, and needs them to be *of value* to improve the life, contacts and status..

Your North Node in Saggi 10th suggests you are learning to become more philosophical, broad minded, free thinking and what it means to have freedom and independence with work, career and what you will ultimately become known for. South Node in gemini scatters it's energies to thinly, has too many fingers in too many pies, is flirtatious and has the attention span of a gnat, is restless, procrastinating and indecsive and is notorious for sitting on the fence on issues espec connected to family matters....
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Thanks for your reply Does it mean that I will have weak personal planets - Mercury, Venus, except Mars?

Well, in fact, I can assure you that conjucnt Sun - Mars 0 degree affects me a lot. I have a very high ambition, and of course, a lot of energy and enthusiasm when I get interested in something :P Well, in fact things are not that bad, I still can be charm when I need, maybe I am just going through a tough time u know

Can you tell me what happens with my ruler of my ascendant when it is in my 12th house? What about Saturn? Cuz Aquarius is ruled by Uranus and Saturn rite? So does it mean that it relates to my 1st and 12th house?
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Thanks for your reply Does it mean that I will have weak personal planets - Mercury, Venus, except Mars?

Well, in fact, I can assure you that conjucnt Sun - Mars 0 degree affects me a lot. I have a very high ambition, and of course, a lot of energy and enthusiasm when I get interested in something :P Well, in fact things are not that bad, I still can be charm when I need, maybe I am just going through a tough time u know

Can you tell me what happens with my ruler of my ascendant when it is in my 12th house?
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology...rships.htm#hr1
What about Saturn? Cuz Aquarius is ruled by Uranus and Saturn rite? [NOPE]So does it mean that it relates to my 1st and 12th house?
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For some modern Western astrologers, the planet Uranus () is the ruling planet of Aquarius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets...trology#Uranus

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Fi...ctions14.0.htm
http://www.rrtearoom.com/horoscope/planets/Uranus.htm
http://www.findyourfate.com/planets/uranus.htm

Classical Traditional astrologers don't use Uranus neptune and Pluto or go past saturn. So in olden days, saturn had to rule two signs

98% on here are modern astrologers, some do use both (or like to hedge there bets even) but as I have Aquarius rising, I total identify with Uranus, plus my Uranus is angular in 7th. If you want to follow the debate as to whether the 'outers' should be used or not you can read/follow here...

are outer planets generational or personal
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39021

Tim’s comment on Trad V modern thread
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252997&postcount=22
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OMG! Your chart is so similar to mine! I was born in Hanoi too! I'm also a Cappy with Aquarius ascendant with a stellium of Sun, Neptune, Uranus, and Mercury in the 11th house, although not in the same order as yours. I can relate sometimes when you say your life ***** because sometimes there are very few opportunities that come that will allow you to be free and advance your goals whatever it may be. Let me just tell you, since you are a Cap, you'll have that inherent drive and determination to achieve success in whatever you do, don't let melancholic feelings of self doubt and pessimism plague you (we are Caps after all) and just be you (especially with Aquarius ascendant, individuality is key)!

Actually I've heard that most success for people with 11th house stelliums has to do with networking, your friends, family, and people you know. Possible success can also come from charity work or jobs involving the community. I for one am not in that field, but if I was, let me tell you I would definitely be more fulfilled working non-profit for a charitable cause making a difference then sitting 8 hours staring at a computer screen all day. I also heard from some sources that having a 11th house stellium in person's chart gives possibility of fame probably gain from networking.

Just love yourself and work hard towards your goals and whatever you want to do in life.

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