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Declination Stelliums

If you have 3 or 4 planets which are parallel by declination one another, would they count as a stellium, and if so, would major aspect by longitude to one of the members of the declination stellium aspect all the members of the stellium .


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Re: Declination Stelliums

I've wondered the same thing. From the astrological principle of declinations it's logical, but there are not many authoritative voices talking on the matter so I understand the reticence.

I've seen Alice McDermott (Alice Portman) demonstrate on her website the efficacy of the "declination stellium" in the chart of Barack Obama. I think the definitive literature on the matter of declinations is from Kt Boehrer. I haven't read her so unsure if she tackled the issue of declination pileups.

I have some of that going on my chart. Close enough declinations among Moon, Saturn and Pluto to qualify as a three-way parallel. I think it has real relevance in my chart and life.
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Oh I forgot to mention. If I add longitudinal aspects to the parallels then I'd have a 10 planet mega conjunction. Even if that were "legal" I still would have a problem with it. It brings to mind primeval soup or the phase prior to the first act of creation in myths the world over. Maybe it denotes a rare spiritual opportunity, but I try not to get ahead of myself.
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Re: Declination Stelliums

Thank you conspiracy theorist .

The common sence tells that if planets conjunct in declination or longitude
they become one so anything one planet feel the other planet conjunct feels also so they kinda share with each other their reality by longitude and i am
almost sure but kinda thought maybe there is a good source for that assumption .
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Re: Declination Stelliums

Found the article by Alice Portman. Check it out http://aliceportman.com/declinations/

She's active on the astrodienst forum, and you may be able to contact her directly with your query about the mixing of declinations and longitudinal aspects.

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Re: Declination Stelliums

I do look at declination occasionally. I think it is really important.

I keep the orb to one degree. Maybe two for a luminary.

I don't know about the OP longitude question, but it's worth doing some research on it.

I have a very wide moon-Pluto conjunction with a 10-degree orb. But they are parallel within a degree. Oftentimes parallel or counter-parallel planets will sharpen or clarify what is already in a chart.

The other helpful thing about declination is in identifying out-of-bounds planets. (Declination greater than 23 degrees 27 minutes.) They are the "wild children" of the horoscope.
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Re: Declination Stelliums

Hello waybread ,

I have my moon parallel Neptun Uranus and Jupiter with in 1 degree also
all 4 of them in the 4th house .
I consider the planets Neptun Uranus and Pluto as making
the out of bound effect when connected to personal planets because
they are very far in our solar system kind of out of bound they are
very spirtual and transforming so major aspects of personal planets
with them makes things complicated and unusuall .
I noticed that many of the guys coming to this forum have this aspects
with the above planets .
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Re: Declination Stelliums

Maybe anybody else knows something on this topic ?
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